Pro-life/pro-foetus Posters On the Pregnancy/advice Boards Posted: 03-21-06 19:58pm
Is it only me who finds it to be totally
unacceptable that pro-life/pro-foetus
people continually post telling the
posters looking for advice how awful it
will be if they kill their babies? I
honestly don't think that such emotive
posts have any place on the thread of
someone seeking support and advice, for
whatever decision they choose to make.
And if they really want someone to
continue the pregnancy why don't they
offer practical support such as the
details of organisations that can provide
support during pregnancy, or with a
newborn? Banging on about how they
should keep their ickle wickle baby,
because not to do so is wrong, is not
support.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:03pm
I find it inappropriate too, but the
emotionl pro-lifers will always think that
the best way to make people do what they
want then to do is to barge in on their
business.
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~*~Jillian~*~
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:19pm
Well im pro-life..And I dont post in the
abortion forum...I dont tell people to get
a abortion or not to...Its their
decision...I just consider myself pro-life
because my views and beliefs on the
procedure and life...I post in abortion
debate..Because this is the place...Where
pro-life/pro-choice come to debate the
things they agree and disagree on...Women
who come to this board for support on
abortion...Need not to come to the
abortion debate ..But to the abortion
forum ...
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God
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:26pm
I think you misunderstand jillian, i'm
talking about women who post in the
pregnancy forums. Admittedly it's
probably not the right place for them to
post, but they are looking for support,
not guilt trips from people who are
pro-life.
If they were to post here they could
expect debate on the rights or wrongs of
abortion, but I don't think it's fair when
they are merely seeking support in making
their decision.
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~*~Jillian~*~
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:30pm
Yup ..Took your post wrong I thought you
were talking about the abortion
forum...Because sometimes pro-life people
post there also..And I dont see why you
would do that..When someone is going
through a hard enough time ...Trying to
figure which way to go in life...Meaning
abortion/or have the baby...I just stick
to talking about abortion in this forum
and in the pro-life forum..But yes I
understand what you mean..But then again
there are people that post in the
pregnancy/teen pregnancy forum that
sometimes ..Ask for opinions...And thats
leads to pro-choice and pro-life both
replying...Causing arguments and so forth!
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~*~Jillian~*~
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:31pm
You didnt state anything about pregnancy
forum..So it was kind of hard to
understand where you were talking about
:wink:
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God
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:40pm
The clue is in the title. :wink:
if someone asks for abortion experiences
then I think they should expect to receive
them, but if they ust ask for general
support in making a decision, well that's
different.
Jillian, I would say that you're not
really what i'd call pro-life. You're
more personally pro-life, but pro-choice
for other people. You don't like abortion
but accept that sometimes it has to
happen. I may be way off the mark here
though.
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~*~Jillian~*~
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:46pm
No ..Your exactly right because I dont
make anyones decision for them...I dont
like people telling me how and what to do
in my life..So I return the favor and dont
tell others what to do with theirs..
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God
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Posted: 03-21-06 20:51pm
~*~jillian~*~
wrote:
no ..Your exactly right
because I dont make anyones decision for
them...I dont like people telling me how
and what to do in my life..So I return the
favor and dont tell others what to do with
theirs..
cool, was slightly concerned I might
offend.
I wish more pro-life people could be like
that.
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Meandering Away
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Posted: 03-22-06 02:29am
Quote:
i wish more
pro-life people could be like
that.
i think you will find a lot of pro lifers
are like that.
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Posted: 03-22-06 14:33pm
cowboys
wrote:
Quote:
i wish more
pro-life people could be like
that.
i think you will find a lot of pro lifers
are like that.
except you and your pro life friends that
don't allow women bodily autonomy.
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trina1
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Posted: 06-07-06 17:12pm
Just read this thread and found it
interesting. If a pl posts on the
pregnancy thread and calls a fetus a baby
and makes the pregnant woman/girl think
that she might actually be carrying a
human life inside her....What is actually
wrong with that? If a pl uses the word
"kills" is she technically wrong? I mean
whether you believe that the pregnant
woman is carrying a human life or a bunch
of living cells...The bottom line is...In
an abortion "something" dies....Therefore
is killed. What I am saying is....Pc is
supposedly all about a womans choice....So
if a pl makes a woman look at her
pregnancy differently, or possibly even
goes so far as to make that woman change
her mind and not have an abortion....What
is wrong with that? I mean isn't changing
ones mind as much apart of choice as
sticking with your first choice? If pc is
really about "choice" then a difference of
opinion shouldn't scare you. You after
all have the law on your side....All we
have are words. We can't stop a woman
from having an abortion....But we can ask
her to think about what she is doing
before she does it. I mean no one would
say a word if a woman were going to have a
hysterectomy, cancer surgery, or any other
kind of surgical procedure and someone
asked them if this is really what they
wanted to do....So why is abortion any
different? And what is wrong with using
emotional words like "baby" and "human
life?" I mean after all....Abortion
usually has some emotional side
effects.....And if the woman doesn't want
to hear them....She can say "please leave
me alone." that is also her
choice......But if she chooses to
listen.....Why do you care? This is I
guess what I never understood about so
many pc. There is a certain group that
are all for "choice" as long as the
"choice" is what they think it should be.
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Posted: 06-07-06 17:30pm
trina1
wrote:
just read this thread and
found it interesting. If a pl posts on
the pregnancy thread and calls a fetus a
baby and makes the pregnant woman/girl
think that she might actually be carrying
a human life inside her....What is
actually wrong with
that?
i'm sure most wmen are aware that it's a
human fetus they are carrying inside of
their uterus. It's basic biology, the
fact is that it's not a "baby" until birth
- baby is a developmental stage, just as
zygote, embryo and fetus are. It doesn't
negate from the fact that they're from the
human species - frankly someone would have
to be quite stupid to think that they're
carrying a howler monkeys fetus
trina1
wrote:
if a pl uses the word
"kills" is she technically
wrong?
no, but it's not the most appropriate
phrase.
trina1
wrote:
pc is supposedly all about a
womans choice....So if a pl makes a woman
look at her pregnancy differently, or
possibly even goes so far as to make that
woman change her mind and not have an
abortion....What is wrong with
that?
nothing is wrong with that, I believe
women should be making informed choices
about their pregnancy but when a person
clearly states they have made the decision
or that they are suffering following
abortion I don't think it's appropriate to
mention that she has "killed her baby"
trina1
wrote:
if pc is really about
"choice" then a difference of opinion
shouldn't scare you. You after all have
the law on your side....All we have are
words. We can't stop a woman from having
an abortion....But we can ask her to think
about what she is doing before she does
it.
it is about choice. I'm pleased the law
recognises this also. I am not
"pro-abortion" and I 100% believe that
it's no-ones decision apart from the woman
whether or not she continues her pregnancy
or aborts.
trina1
wrote:
I mean no one would say a
word if a woman were going to have a
hysterectomy, cancer surgery, or any other
kind of surgical procedure and someone
asked them if this is really what they
wanted to do....So why is abortion any
different?
no-one would question why a woman was
having other surgery, where's the
difference?
trina1
wrote:
and what is wrong with using
emotional words like "baby" and "human
life?"
baby is inaccurate
trina1
wrote:
i mean after all....Abortion
usually has some emotional side
effects.....And if the woman doesn't want
to hear them....She can say "please leave
me alone." that is also her
choice......But if she chooses to
listen.....Why do you care?
i don't care - it's the womans choice, not
mine. If she isn't fully informed and
then decides against an abortion then i'm
pleased she made her choice
trina1
wrote:
this is I guess what I never
understood about so many pc. There is a
certain group that are all for "choice" as
long as the "choice" is what they think it
should be.
the choice is for the woman who has an
unplanned pregnancy, it's not my choice
and I would never want to force my
opinions on anyone.
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Posted: 06-07-06 17:33pm
trina1
wrote:
just read this thread and
found it interesting. If a pl posts on
the pregnancy thread and calls a fetus a
baby and makes the pregnant woman/girl
think that she might actually be carrying
a human life inside her....What is
actually wrong with that? If a pl uses
the word "kills" is she technically wrong?
I mean whether you believe that the
pregnant woman is carrying a human life or
a bunch of living cells...The bottom line
is...In an abortion "something"
dies....Therefore is killed. What I am
saying is....Pc is supposedly all about a
womans choice....So if a pl makes a woman
look at her pregnancy differently, or
possibly even goes so far as to make that
woman change her mind and not have an
abortion....What is wrong with that? I
mean isn't changing ones mind as much
apart of choice as sticking with your
first choice? If pc is really about
"choice" then a difference of opinion
shouldn't scare you. You after all have
the law on your side....All we have are
words. We can't stop a woman from having
an abortion....But we can ask her to think
about what she is doing before she does
it. I mean no one would say a word if a
woman were going to have a hysterectomy,
cancer surgery, or any other kind of
surgical procedure and someone asked them
if this is really what they wanted to
do....So why is abortion any different?
And what is wrong with using emotional
words like "baby" and "human life?" I mean
after all....Abortion usually has some
emotional side effects.....And if the
woman doesn't want to hear them....She can
say "please leave me alone." that is also
her choice......But if she chooses to
listen.....Why do you care? This is I
guess what I never understood about so
many pc. There is a certain group that
are all for "choice" as long as the
"choice" is what they think it should
be.
we don't mind people being pro-life... We
mind when they try to make the government
and the laws pro-life because then that
removes the choice.
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trina1
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Posted: 06-07-06 17:37pm
moo
wrote:
trina1
wrote:
just read this thread and
found it interesting. If a pl posts on
the pregnancy thread and calls a fetus a
baby and makes the pregnant woman/girl
think that she might actually be carrying
a human life inside her....What is
actually wrong with
that?
i'm sure most wmen are aware that it's a
human fetus they are carrying inside of
their uterus. It's basic biology, the
fact is that it's not a "baby" until birth
- baby is a developmental stage, just as
zygote, embryo and fetus are. It doesn't
negate from the fact that they're from the
human species - frankly someone would have
to be quite stupid to think that they're
carrying a howler monkeys fetus
trina1
wrote:
if a pl uses the word
"kills" is she technically
wrong?
no, but it's not the most appropriate
phrase.
trina1
wrote:
pc is supposedly all about a
womans choice....So if a pl makes a woman
look at her pregnancy differently, or
possibly even goes so far as to make that
woman change her mind and not have an
abortion....What is wrong with
that?
nothing is wrong with that, I believe
women should be making informed choices
about their pregnancy but when a person
clearly states they have made the decision
or that they are suffering following
abortion I don't think it's appropriate to
mention that she has "killed her baby"
trina1
wrote:
if pc is really about
"choice" then a difference of opinion
shouldn't scare you. You after all have
the law on your side....All we have are
words. We can't stop a woman from
having an abortion....But we can ask her
to think about what she is doing before
she does it.
it is about choice. I'm pleased the law
recognises this also. I am not
"pro-abortion" and I 100% believe that
it's no-ones decision apart from the woman
whether or not she continues her pregnancy
or aborts.
trina1
wrote:
I mean no one would say a
word if a woman were going to have a
hysterectomy, cancer surgery, or any other
kind of surgical procedure and someone
asked them if this is really what they
wanted to do....So why is abortion any
different?
no-one would question why a woman was
having other surgery, where's the
difference?
trina1
wrote:
and what is wrong with using
emotional words like "baby" and "human
life?"
baby is inaccurate
trina1
wrote:
i mean after all....Abortion
usually has some emotional side
effects.....And if the woman doesn't want
to hear them....She can say "please leave
me alone." that is also her
choice......But if she chooses to
listen.....Why do you care?
i don't care - it's the womans choice, not
mine. If she isn't fully informed and
then decides against an abortion then i'm
pleased she made her choice
trina1
wrote:
this is I guess what I never
understood about so many pc. There is a
certain group that are all for "choice" as
long as the "choice" is what they think it
should be.
the choice is for the woman who has an
unplanned pregnancy, it's not my choice
and I would never want to force my
opinions on anyone.
moo....I don't believe that you are the
type of pc I was speaking about. There
are however pc out there that aren't as
reasonable as you are. And for the
record....Rubbing someones nose in
something after it is already said and
done is never right. None of us makes it
through this life without doing something
that was painful....And continually
reminding us of what we did is neither
helpful or healing.
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trina1
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Posted: 06-09-06 11:29am
eiri
wrote:
trina1
wrote:
just read this thread and
found it interesting. If a pl posts on
the pregnancy thread and calls a fetus a
baby and makes the pregnant woman/girl
think that she might actually be carrying
a human life inside her....What is
actually wrong with that? If a pl uses
the word "kills" is she technically wrong?
I mean whether you believe that the
pregnant woman is carrying a human life or
a bunch of living cells...The bottom line
is...In an abortion "something"
dies....Therefore is killed. What I am
saying is....Pc is supposedly all about a
womans choice....So if a pl makes a woman
look at her pregnancy differently, or
possibly even goes so far as to make that
woman change her mind and not have an
abortion....What is wrong with that? I
mean isn't changing ones mind as much
apart of choice as sticking with your
first choice? If pc is really about
"choice" then a difference of opinion
shouldn't scare you. You after all have
the law on your side....All we have are
words. We can't stop a woman from
having an abortion....But we can ask her
to think about what she is doing before
she does it. I mean no one would say a
word if a woman were going to have a
hysterectomy, cancer surgery, or any other
kind of surgical procedure and someone
asked them if this is really what they
wanted to do....So why is abortion any
different? And what is wrong with using
emotional words like "baby" and "human
life?" I mean after all....Abortion
usually has some emotional side
effects.....And if the woman doesn't want
to hear them....She can say "please leave
me alone." that is also her
choice......But if she chooses to
listen.....Why do you care? This is I
guess what I never understood about so
many pc. There is a certain group that
are all for "choice" as long as the
"choice" is what they think it should
be.
we don't mind people being pro-life...
We mind when they try to make the
government and the laws pro-life because
then that removes the
choice.
in other words....It is okay if we believe
that human life begins at conception and
therefore should be protected and
respected........As long as we don't do
anything about it....Correct?
Does it really remove the choice.....Or
simply give the choice to all instead of
the few?
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