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How the Hell Do You Control Your Eating? Posted: 03-22-06 17:33pm
I used to be anorexic and bulimic during
my mid teens, stopped when I was about 17.
I'm nearly 20 now and I find myself
slipping back into bad habits. It's the
usual thing.... I think ''oh i'm just
having one slice of toast''. But once I
start eating... God... I just can't
stop. Feels like i've gone through the
whole fridge, and I feel so dreadful
afterwards. You'd think I would've learnt
by now to eat in moderation, but I do this
every time. I make myself angry. Just
took several laxatives there now, but I
dont want to slip back into this sh*t. I
just want to be able to moderate what I
eat, and eat sensibly so as to control my
weight. I just don't seem to have the
self discipline....
If anyone's been successful in normalizing
their eating habits, please tell me how
you did it
fiona
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Re: How the Hell Do You Control Your Eating? Posted: 03-23-06 04:28am
fiona05
wrote:
i think ''oh i'm just having
one slice of toast''. But once I start
eating... God... I just can't stop.
Feels like i've gone through the whole
fridge, and I feel so dreadful
afterwards.
hi, fiona.
I'm a bulimic and I had your problem of
overeating. I'm now in a process of
reeducation of my eating habits (from not
eating I jumped to overeating), and i've
been able to control myself for a few
days.
You have to believe that you can control
yourself. Try to tell someone who is a
lot of time with you - that person can
help you, by telling you that one slice is
enough, for example - or write down what
you eat (and share it with us, for
example)...
I never used lax, but I used to throw up.
I'm afraid of gaining weight, but I know I
was hurting people who love me the most
and who I trully love by doing that...
Try to establish, for example, what you'll
eat in a day. And other things that can
help can be having hobbies to spend your
time or thinking and doing other thinks
when you aren't hungry but you fell like
you will overeat - read a book, do the
crosswords, come to the msn chat, draw,
something you like!
I'm with you, if you need help, just call
me...
I also need help.
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Thanks So Much For Your Reply Posted: 03-23-06 06:56am
I'd thought a way of helping me would be
to tell my mum to only bring certain foods
into the house, and not to let me snack
much between meals, but noone can be there
24/7. I remember the lengths I went to
get chocolatey things back in the old
days... If somebody tells you you can't
have something it just makes you all the
more determined to get it. It becomes so
obsessive.
I dont wanna tell her cos the last thing I
want is to hurt my mum all over again.
And I know if I tell her it's gonna be the
sympathetic looks, and the "don't you
think you've had enough to eat now,
sweetheart?" and as soon as those words
come out it's like the affirmation... And
I feel guilty. I dont think I wanna tell
her I need help. Instead maybe i'll do
what you suggested... Make a list? Or
maybe plan everything I can eat in a
day.
Is that what you do? Do you make a
list?
I find sometimes it helps if i'm about to
get a snack, to instead make a cup of tea.
Sometimes thirst is mistaken for hunger.
Thanks for replying... Jeez I think i'm
going to go insane sometimes. It helps to
tell someone about it!
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Posted: 03-23-06 07:38am
Sometimes, I make a list.
Right now, i'm making one, I started on
monday. Having things written down helps
you to get a better consciousness about
what you've really eaten.
I write hour and then what i've eaten in
my agenda. And I always carry it with me.
It's also good to always keep it wherever
you go, because you can write things down
whenever you want or read what you've
already written.
For example, on today's page i've got:
9:00 - 1 breat with ham, 1 cup of milk, 1
banana.
And remember - drink a lot of water :) it
not only helps you to reduce your will to
eat as it helps you body to work!
Kisses
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That's What I'm Gonna Do Posted: 03-23-06 08:24am
I used to do it years ago when I was
anorexic/bulimic, to keep a note of what I
was eating. I think back then it made it
worse cos you don't realise how much
you're eating till you see it itemized
like that. I used this list as a means
of recording it, so that I could eat as
little as possible. Now I want to use it
for better means, so I can eat sensibly,
healthily and normally.
I'm gonna give it a try:)
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Posted: 03-23-06 09:13am
Weel, you can try to do it in a positive
way. Instead of look ing at it and feel
guilty, try to think and racionalize what
you've written.
I know exactly how you feel and what comes
into your mind when you first read it. I
took me a long time to change this way,
but now I write it down because I wanna
change. Last year, for instance, I used
to do it for a time, but just because I
didn't want to eat at all - so i'd blame
myself for every single thing I had
written.
Now, it's different. For exemple, i've
established with myself that i'd only eat
chocolate once a week (meaning cakes and
that bad stuff). So, with this agenda, I
know preciselly when I ate chocolate and
what i've eaten. This a way to control
myself...
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Posted: 03-27-06 07:27am
Last few days i've been eating fairly
sensibly. A couple of silly mistakes, but
i'll forgive myself for them. Been
eating healthy breakfasts... Nothing too
stodgy cos that just seems to set me up
badly for the rest of the day. Drinking
a lot, cos often I think I must mistake
thirst for hunger. Been trying to put
off eating until mealtimes, and if I do
snack in between, it'll be a small,
healthy snack instead. I find it
difficult to believe I can change a
lifetime's bad habits, but i'm gonna give
it a good shot anyway. About 7 months
ago I was eating great, but somehow I
slipped back into old habits. I'll try
not to let this happen again. How's
things with you?
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Posted: 03-27-06 12:47pm
fiona05
wrote:
last few days i've been
eating fairly sensibly. A couple of
silly mistakes, but i'll forgive myself
for them. Been eating healthy
breakfasts...
that is great, i'm very happy for you.
Yesterday and on saturday I vomited
again... After 17 zero days! :( today I
haven't, it's being a zero day again for
me. But, in the morning, i've eaten
chocolate and then I felt all the guilt
all over again. I was almost going to the
bathroom and throw up, but I managed not
to... I didn't want to make things worse
for me today.
I've just got home from college and had my
lunch now. Now i'm gonna work to a
project i'm into.
How has your day gone by?
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Posted: 03-27-06 16:04pm
I suppose when I go to eat chocolate...
What i'm thinking at the time is ''i'm
allowed to treat myself... I don't want
to deny myself something I like because I
want to conform to body ideals!!" and
every part of my brain is screaming that.
So I have it. But the thing is, I know
myself too well now. Some people are
able to have a chocolate bar and take it
in their stride. I however, am not.
And I know this. I know I have never
felt good after eating one! So I just
bear this in mind every time I think about
having one. I'm not being cruel to
myself. On the contrary, I know i'm
making things easier for myself.
Maybe whenever you have a chocolate
craving, try having a really small one
instead, just to satisfy the taste. Like
a celebration or a cadbury's hero. They
don't make you feel so bad!
Ok, you've had a relapse, but it's ok,
forgive yourself that. Don't let
yourself think you've failed. You're
making progress, it's cool.
Every morning I usually have a cooked
breakfast, like an egg on toast or a fry
up, but I find it sets me up badly for the
day. I find it helps to eat a healthy
low fat breakfast, such as cereal. That
way I feel more positive in the day that
i'm eating sensibly. Whereas if I eat a
pile of sh*te, I tend to think ''oh, i've
failed already, so there's no point in
trying to eat healthy the rest of the
day''. Try eating meusli or cereal of
some sort, it helps me feel better.
Sorry, i'm being really cr*p at conveying
stuff today, hope that made sense! Lol
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Posted: 03-28-06 03:22am
It's ok! I find really cool that you are
managing to get healthy again too!
And I don't really love chocolate :s it's
something I like, ok, but it's not one of
my favourite things.
I promised myself that today I won't make
that crap again and i'll eat good stuff as
I can. It's gonna be a bit hard, because
i'm at college already and will be here
till 7 or 7:30 in the evening. We have a
cafetaria here, but there's only
croissants and stuff like that :\ then, we
have those machines with cakes, cookies,
chocolates and bad stuff. The only places
left are coffeeshops! :s
well, i've eaten a non-fat youghurt for
breakfast at 7:20. Let's see what the
rest of the day reserves.
I hope your day is fine, have fun :)
thanks for sharing your experience with me
=) *****
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breeanna
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Posted: 04-02-06 01:45am
Hi fiona good luck on your challenge!!
You can do it girl! :)
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Posted: 04-16-06 09:25am
Hey yas
hows it been going with youse?
Not so great with me. Well... On and
off.
I've been trying to regulate my eating,
control it, but it's been very hard. I
value food alot. I've been off
university this week so all this sitting
about, all this boredom has lead to
overeating once again. My boyfriend was
over last night and gave me an easter egg.
It's a huge one. You know russian
dolls? It's like that only it's an egg
inside an egg inside an egg. I've
already had almost the whole thing. The
first thing I did when I woke up
thismorning was reach for a chunk. How
do I always forget how I can't take food
casually? Had a few laxatives.
Goddamn. I'll throw the rest of this
thing out. Feel bad. It was a
present....
I suppose what it comes down to is there
isn't really any one to support me, to
tell me not to eat when I shouldnt be.
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Posted: 04-16-06 15:59pm
Fiona, don't feel so bad about it.
You're trying to control yourself and that
is hugelly hard, we all know it. I'm also
off from university now and until next
tuesday (classes begin on wednesday), so I
know how it's all about. Besides, it's a
holiday season which makes things
worse...
I've had a few zero days, five in a row
now. I'm trying to control myself too,
but it's overwealming. Easter is all
about the candies, which makes me sick :\
but i'm trying to keep up to what my
doctor said to me when I last went there.
She said I had three goals to achieve:
1. Keep the breaks between the meals
(about 3 hours of interval between them) -
to avoid being eating everytime,
2. Always have lunch (which I don't
usually have, specially when i'm at the
university - at home I must have it,
because my family is generally around and
I don't want to be any more suspicious),
3. Not weighting myself too frequently -
only once a week, she said (i still do it
a lot more often, but, this week, I
managed to be one whole day without
weighting).
This month, I managed to have 14 zero days
in a row, but one day I was weaker and
threw my lunch out... :(
i hope I can find my way out of this. I'm
still way to scared of gaining weight and
getting fatter, but I want a regular life,
without a major concern about these
subjects and, most of all, without an
ed.
But enough of me, how are you doing?
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sandyallen
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Posted: 04-16-06 16:34pm
It is obvious that you are not alone on
this and who does not break the rules.
If you find yourself needing help we are
here for you and thei is alsso
professional help out their for you as you
are not only hurting yourself but also
those that care about you and their is
nothing wrong with asking for help a few
good places to start is here, a school
nurse, a dietitian, mental help, please
ddo not talke me the wrong way, I am not
saying that you are crazy or anything like
that but we all need a little help
sometime in our life and they are good at
leading you in the right direction. This
can become a disease and can kill you if
you do not get some help, it can ruin your
esophagus, stomach, you caaan end up with
arthritis before your time, you can lose
your teeth, just to name a few, it is
horrible on you! You haave already
admitted that you do need the help now I
seriously do hope that you do something
about it.. We are here for you!
Keep in touch!
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sandyallen
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Posted: 04-16-06 17:23pm
Another way is by drinking extra water
which was reccommended to you earlier,
which I do anyway as water is filling but
do not over do that either but especially
do not try to vommit(sp).
Again, the best to you!
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Posted: 04-18-06 05:24am
I drink a lot of water, generally 3 liters
a day (3 liter = 0.792 516 154 gallon [us,
liquid]). And you? Since I started
drinking more water, some years ago, I
noticed that I lost body fat, weight and
that my skin is a lot better. It's still
dry skin type, but it used to be awful :x
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Krittyk
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Stop the Hunger! Posted: 04-19-06 08:05am
Hello
i too am bulimic, and was sent to a
nutritionist about 2 years ago. She
really helped me realise just what foods
were okay to have and how much I could
have without gaining any weight!
It worked on portions:
1 serve dairy = 1 cup low fat milk, 1 tub
low fat yoghurt or 1 slice low fat cheese
1 serve cereal = 1 slice bread
(multigrain/wholemeal best), 1/2 cup
cooked rice, 1/2 cup cooked pasta, 1/2
muffin, 1 crumpet, 1 small potato or 1/2
cup breakfast cereal etc
1 serve protein = 50g chicken, 50g lean
beef, 12 nuts, 50g tofu, 100g fish, 1 cup
prawns, 3/4 cup baked beans or lentils
etc
1 serve fruit = 1 banana, 1 apple, 3
apricots, 1 punnet of strawberries, 2
slices melon etc
*vegetables are unlimited at any time of
the day!! They keep your water &
fibre levels up
basically the way it works is she allowed
a certain serve of particular food types
for each meal, and I was allowed to choose
what I felt like as long as I stuck to the
serving size...
Breakfast: 2 serves cereal + 1 serve dairy
eg 2 slices toast + tub of yoghurt or 1
cup breakfast cereal with 1 cup milk or 1
muffin + a skim late etc
lunch: 2 serves cereal + vegetables + 1
serve protein *protein important at this
time of the day as it reduces hunger
levels mid afternoon eg 1 ham & salad
sandwich or slices of chicken with a
potato salad or pasta with tofu and salad
etc
dinner: 0 - 1 serve cereal + vegetables +
2 serves protein eg 100g beef with salad
or grilled fish and steamed vegies etc ...
Its a good idea to reduce your cereal
intake at dinner time as they contain
carbs and because your body will be
sleeping in a few hours its not a good
idea to be consuming these so late.
You are allowed 2 snacks a day, plus one
extra every 2 days... So treat yourself
every once in a while with a glass of wine
or a cookie or chocolate and you will find
these cravings will disappear and no
weight will be gained.
I tried this out when I was very sick and
on medication, and my muscles toned up
without me even working out because I was
feeding them the right nutrients. Plus I
wasnt hungry ever :d
i hope I have helped a bit...
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Posted: 04-19-06 10:24am
Thanks for you contribute. And you
started feeling right almost immediatelly?
And you are fine now? Good! You must be
a huge example for all of us! :d
thank you once again :)
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Krittyk
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Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Australia
Posted: 04-19-06 20:34pm
Hi again
i did feel excellent for a long time after
I started the eating plan, however I am
still going through a tough rollercoaster
because of a number of factors to do with
alcohol and medication, so I do throw up
still, maybe once or twice a day? However
I do my best to make sure that I have at
least three small meals a day - so
sometimes I will binge and throw up but
then will make sure I have a proper meal
afterwards. Its strange... I do need
help still, I hate throwing up.
I thought this eating advice would help
some of you to realise how much is a
"normal" amount to eat each day without
having to worry about weight gain :)
