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Posted: 03-25-06 12:03pm

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in september, after having abdominal pains and naseau (with some vomiting), my gastroenterologist (first time i'd ever been to one) suggested an abdominal ultrasound (for which they found small gallstones, nothing "earth shatting", no thickening of gallbladder wall, and kidneys and liver good). I also had an endoscopy and it revealed I had a small hiatal hernia, gastritis, and reflux, for which I take nexium, and have changed my diet to reflect very low fat.

I have been pretty good.

Wednesday night I had, what I do believe, was a gallbladder attack. Pain lasting for hours and hours (with no relief), naseau, with vomiting. Pain started in center of chest, below breasts, and radiated to right side (under rib).

Called the gastroenterologist and he suggested a nuclear test with cck (hida scan?). After discussion with some people, a Dr. On an on-line forum suggested that this is not protocal and could actually lodge a stone in the bile duct and cause emergency surgery, so i've cancelled my appt. And would like to make an appt. With the surgeon (gallbladder specialist) my mother used for her gallbladder surgery years ago.

What would you recommend as standard protocal to test the gallbladder prior to recommending surgery?

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Lori
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Protocol For Gb Tests
Posted: 03-26-06 00:18am

If the symptoms indicate gallbladder disease the 1st test is a gallbladder ultrasound. You must fast at least 8 ours for a gallbladder ultrasound. This will pick up obvious signs of infection, like fluid around the gallbladder. It will also detect gallstones. If there are no gallstones, it is safe to do the nuclear scan with cck (hida scan with ejection fraction). You must be fasting for at least four hours for this scan. I reccomend fasting no longer than 12 hours. (preferably 8). No prescription pain medicines for at least 8 hours prior to the scan.
A gallbladder ejection fraction less than 25% is abnormal, 25 - 50% is equivical, greater than 50% is normal.
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Gallstones
Posted: 03-26-06 10:09am

Since I already had an adominal ultrasound in september that showed small gallstones, it isn't really highly recommended that I get a cck, as it could lodge a stone in the bile duct, necessitating emergency surgery.

Perhaps the surgeon will recommend I get another gallbladder ultrasound, and a hida scan - if necessary, without the cck!?

Lori
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Re: Gallstones
Posted: 03-31-06 19:22pm

mymeka wrote:
since I already had an adominal ultrasound in september that showed small gallstones, it isn't really highly recommended that I get a cck, as it could lodge a stone in the bile duct, necessitating emergency surgery.


Perhaps the surgeon will recommend I get another gallbladder ultrasound, and a hida scan - if necessary, without the cck!?


Lori


lori, it is a controversial subject. It is not universally accepted that cck is a no-no on a patient with gallstones. The risk is small and probably won't make emergency surgery needed. But a gallstone passing through the bile ducts may be very painful, and the irritation could cause other problems. Our dr's don't do it. I wouldn't do it. But discuss the risks vs benifits with your dr about your specific case.
A hida without cck is fine.
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