I know that in an abusive relationship..
The the abuser always says hes going to
change..And the victim accepts him and the
cycle continues.
All I want to ask is... My husband and I
are seperated rite now.. And I kno I dont
want to get back with him..B/c I dont want
the cycle to repeat.. We talked recently
and we talked about everything..I told him
everything that was wrong in our
relationship...Why we are apart..And how
he has a problem.. He admitted all his
faults and told me he knows he just cant
run back into my arms unless he has
changed.. And although we are apart..He
continues to call me and say.. I love
you..And that he misses his kid... I cant
help but believe him b/c I do feel his
words are real.. So the question is..
Can/do abusers change.. Or really learn
from their mistakes when they finally lose
their partners?.. B/c I still hope that
one day we can have a healthy relationship
and have a family.. Or shud I lose that
hope?And if there is hope... What should
I do right now?
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AvatarOfUrDreams
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 67 Location: Chicago
Nope... Posted: 05-19-06 15:11pm
Theoretically, yes, it is possible for an
abuser to change but is it likely? Hell
no!
It takes real commitment and years of
therapy to change such ingrained
behaviors. It’s like child
molesters…they can’t change because it
is how their brains were hardwired…
something happened to your x/husband as a
child that both made him consciously and
unconsciously believe that that is the
proper way to behave.
It can be beaten into him that it is
“bad” but getting him to actually
change and not just have him pretend that
he has changed are very different animals.
I guess that it also depends on how he is
abusive.
If he hits you then it is anger issues
that need to be dealt with.
If he controls your every move/thought
then it is dependency issues to be dealt
with.
If he is emotionally/mentally abusive then
it is a self-esteem issues and
codependency issues that needs to be dealt
with.
If it is substance abuse then he probably
has a little bit of all of the above.
All of it requires that he willingly
accept that what he is doing is wrong and
needs to be corrected then start therapy,
in one form or another, to start finding
out what happened to him to make him
behave/think like that.
I am a very empathic person and, for some
reason I don’t understand, inspire trust
that leads to everyone I meet telling me
their whole life stories so I have had
experience with all of the above. I,
personally, had to escape a horrible
codependent relationship and was horrible
mentally/emotionally abused and raped by
my x.
Listen/call into love line 1.800.Love.191
(1.800.568.3191) and get Dr. Drew’s
advice on the situation. You can learn a
lot by listening to other people’s
stories and the recommendations of
professionals.
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xojenniexo
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 38
Posted: 06-15-06 01:53am
Anybody can change. Anybody! But words
arent really enough. Dont end up taking
him back and wind up missing... Sorry but
it happens. If you really love him and im
sure you do hes your husband and father of
your child then go to therapy, have him go
to anger mangement things like that. Im
always an optimist. I mean there is good
in everybody, even him, or you wouldnt
have married him.
Good luck
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PATTY2369
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16 Location: RHODE ISLAND
Abusive Relations Posted: 03-06-07 14:24pm
I NEED SOME ADVICE PLEASE. I DON'T MEAN TO
DISH OUT ALL MY BUSINESS BUT I NEED
SOMEONE TO TALK TO BECAUSE MY MOM NOT
AROUND DUE TO HEALTH REASONS. SO HERE GO I
BEEN MARRIED FOR A LITTLE OVER 2 1/2
YEARS. i BEEN WITH HIM FOR 5 YRS. ALL
TOGETHER. RECENTLY HE BEEN STRESSED OUT
FROM HIS JOB. HE GOT PHYSICAL TOWARDS ME.
jUST THE OTHER DAY i recieve BAD NEWS
ABOUT MY MOTHER HEALTH conDtion GOT WORST
AND ME HAVING panic ATTACKS DISORDER.
. MY HUSBAND CAME HOME FROM WORK AND I
SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT GOT TO ME THAT
DAY and he FLIP OUT AND GOT PRETTY HOT
TEMPER. i TRY TO WALK AWAY BUT HE GOT EVEN
MADDER THEN HE GOT PHYSICAL REALLY
PHYSICAL THROW ME AROUND AND GRABBING ME
HARD. i WAS SCARE, ANGRY, YELLING AND
CRYING TO STOP TO LEAVE ME A LONE. hE KEPT
SAYING THAT IT MY FAULT AND I SHOULD KNOW
NOT TO PUSH HES BUTTONS HE MOTHER WHOM
LIVES WITH US SAY THE SAME THING THAT I
hassel HIM ALL THE TIME AND I SHOULD JUST
GET OFF HIS CASE. i AM SCARE AND AFRAID
THE HE WANTS ME OUT OF HIS LIFE. i LOVE
HIM AND WANT TO WORK THIS OUT BUT HOW AND
WHERE TO GO . I afarid IF I LEAVE HE WON'T
GIVE ME MY SON. hE SAY STUFF LIKE I CAN
HAVE YOU LOCKUP FOR BEING CRAZY. iS IT
ALL MY FAULT I KNOW I CAN DRIVE HIM CRAZY
SOMETIMES. i CAN LIKE MOST PEOPLE GET
health forum. I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE WHAT TO
DO beacause WHEN I AM AROUND HIM IT LIKE
WALKING A EGGSHEELS. nOONE SHOULD HAVE TO
LIVE LIKE THIS. I WANT TO GET HIM IN TO
GOING TO ANGER MANAGEMENT CLASSES HE THINK
HE DON'T NEED IT THAT I DO INSTEAD. HELP
WITH ADVICE WOULD BE GOOD THANK FOR
LISTENING.
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change is good
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 112 Location: Mesa AZ.,
Posted: 03-07-07 07:45am
i think it's time for you and you child to
leave. i am a recovering abuser and can
tell you he will not change as long as he
blames you for his problem. that's right,
his problem. i know you love him but he
will not change and cannot change until he
sees it the way things really are. you are
not to blame, no matter what his mother
and he says. people are responsible for
their own actions. you cannot make a
person act a certain way. it is a choice.
check on-line and i'm sure you will find a
support group or organization that will
help you and your child leave. you need to
be safe and so does your child. you don't
have to end your relationship, just get
away before you are hurt. if he is willing
to change he will accept responsibility
for his own actions and stop blaming you.
best of luck to you
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PATTY2369
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 16 Location: RHODE ISLAND
Posted: 03-07-07 20:26pm
THANK FOR YOUR ADVICE MY HUSBAND AGREE TO
GET HELP AND FINALLY ADMIT HE IS TO BLAME.
WE CAN ONLY TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME BUT
ANYMORE FIGTHING AND I AM LEAVING HIM
BEFORE THINGS GET ANY WORSE. SO THANKS FOR
YOUR HELP AND UNDERSTANDING . THANKS AGAIN
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change is good
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 112 Location: Mesa AZ.,
Posted: 03-08-07 06:57am
i'm glad i was able to help. that's why
i'm here. one day at a day is all anyone
can expect. this is going to take time.
please don't give it a time frame. it can
take weeks or months for change. don't be
fooled by the "cycle". he may slip once in
awhile, but if he is serious about change
he should apologize and accept blame and
move on. don't let your guard down.
best of luck and best wishes.
remember, i am here to help and will talk
anytime.
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RedDelight
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 131 Location: I'm a Yettie!
Re: Can Abusers Change? Posted: 03-09-07 16:49pm
Hello there
Well.. I think- it depends on the
severity, and the type of abuser he/she
is. Usually.. addications are the worst.
They will have to want the help. There's
really nothing you can do except get an
interventation with someone he or she will
listen to [mom, dad, grandparent, etc.]
Physical abuser... I think anyone guy or
girl that falls into this category- is
very weak and pathdeic. There are many
other ways you can take your frustrations
out.. and hitting an innocent person, is
not one of them. That's why god made
weapons
So people that get abused have the right
to use them! That, or against people that
just plain diserve it [jk.]
I would have to say...even though at first
I did not believe it.. until it happened
to myself. Verbal is just as bad as the
above two.. if not- worse. I am still
trying to fix myself. I suggest
therapist... if not- a local woman's
clinic. Verbal abusers... are big time
in denial.. even when you explain to them
where they are wrong...they will simply
never get it. They have been raise to
know nothing more than this type of
behavior. You can try to point it out to
them.. but it won't make a difference..in
their eyes, this is normal to them, and
*you* are the outsider. Ever see the
movie, "GasLight"? [ old- 1945 - 1950 ]
They have it at Borders. Very good, black
and white classic. This is one of the
only movies like this, made- period. It
is a *great* example of a verbal abuser.
It's hard, because this type of abuse is
not heavily talked about. But- they do
have books on this topic, as well. I was
surprised myself!
I hope, you get out of your bad
situation.. and just like the abuser...you
have to be the one to know when enough is
enough. If this is a life threatening
sitauation...I *highly* advise to get out
now. *He* has to want to be better, and
*he* has got to make the first move...
this should never rest all upon the
shoulders of you!
I'm here if you need a shoulder to lean
on- good luck to you- and if you want, I
would love to beat his (_)_) for you!!!