Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 5041 Location: to hell with this crap
Posted: 04-21-06 07:56am
It's not the fact that she is going out
and having a good time. It's the way
that she is going about it. People who
act like having a baby is like a job or a
babysitting job are the most ungreatful
people on this earth. My cousin always
says that she can't go out because she has
to go babysit. And the bad part about
it, it's her .O.W.N kid. I can't wait
until I have my baby. I think that if I
never drink again I will be fine. I love
to drink and I think that I probibly will,
depending on if I breastfeed. But I know
that I will not drink myself under the
table and won't be able to take care of my
skoot. I dont' think that there is any
reason to get so horribly drunk that I
need an overnight sitter.
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AlliE_18
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2129 Location: uk
Posted: 04-21-06 08:00am
kia_breizzze
wrote:
honestly though while I
don't support allie going out every
weekend it really isn't that unusual in
the uk, especially with the younger
mom's.
I know it's kinda hard to understand and
because most of my online friends are from
us and canada ever since I first got
pregnant with oliver, I guess I have kinda
seen things thier way.
Also I did my drinking and drugs phase
before I conceived oliver and had given up
drinking and smoking by then anyway - yeah
I know i'm getting old hahahahaha
but no for her age group and for the
culture in which she lives aliie isn't
doing anything unusual at all. In fact
she is being one of the more careful ones
- honestly.
All too many young mom's in this country
are either going out and leaving baby home
alone (yes alone) or getting a neighbours
kid (13-15 maybe) to sit in their council
flat with the baby until they get in from
partying then the sitter goes home and
drunk mom is in charge of baby.
At least allie is leaving her kid with the
sitter overnight.
Every weekend - bit much in my opinion but
for her age group/culture nope shes
perfectly
normal.
yeah thats true, must be different in
america/canada because most people on here
seem to think its a bloody crime! And it
doesnt mean I dont enjoy being a mum or
looking after lucas at all geez it just
means I enjoy a break from the
responsibility sometimes, and I like to
have a social life and have fun with my
friends who arent parents. Theres nothing
wrong with it, dont make it into something
it isnt. Its not hurting anyone. I
wouldnt leave him with anyone under 18 and
like kia said its common here for 13yr
olds to be left babysitting while the
parents go out. I was babysitting at
13/14 myself. Not for a newborn but still
its looking after a child.
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AlliE_18
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2129 Location: uk
Posted: 04-21-06 08:04am
sunflower_pie81
wrote:
it's not the fact that she
is going out and having a good time.
It's the way that she is going about it.
People who act like having a baby is like
a job or a babysitting job are the most
ungreatful people on this earth. My
cousin always says that she can't go out
because she has to go babysit. And the
bad part about it, it's her .O.W.N kid.
I can't wait until I have my baby. I
think that if I never drink again I will
be fine. I love to drink and I think
that I probibly will, depending on if I
breastfeed. But I know that I will not
drink myself under the table and won't be
able to take care of my skoot. I dont'
think that there is any reason to get so
horribly drunk that I need an overnight
sitter.
so im a bad mother because I get drunk
sometimes? Lol thats ridiculous. Going
out has nothing to do with how I look
after my son! Hes happy and hes healthy,
hes with me 24 hours a day. So what if
its for 12 hours over night or more? A
lot of parents leave their babies in a
daycare centre for a whole 12 hour day
because they work 9 or 10 hours then need
another hour or 2 for travelling to and
from. Its the same kind of thing. At
least hes with a sitter who isnt
babysitting any other kids at the same
time, he gets her full attention. Im very
grateful I have him, ive never said I wish
he wasnt here, I wouldnt have kept him if
I thought that. You've blown it way out
of proportion.
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Sunflower_pie81
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 5041 Location: to hell with this crap
Posted: 04-21-06 08:26am
allie_18
wrote:
so im a bad mother because I
get drunk sometimes? Lol thats
ridiculous. Going out has nothing to do
with how I look after my son! Hes happy
and hes healthy, hes with me 24 hours a
day. So what if its for 12 hours over
night or more? A lot of parents leave
their babies in a daycare centre for a
whole 12 hour day because they work 9 or
10 hours then need another hour or 2 for
travelling to and from. Its the same
kind of thing. At least hes with a
sitter who isnt babysitting any other kids
at the same time, he gets her full
attention. Im very grateful I have him,
ive never said I wish he wasnt here, I
wouldnt have kept him if I thought that.
You've blown it way out of
proportion.
i wasn't really directing that to you but
if you want to take it to heart like you
do everything else, then whatever.
If you think that I am going to be a bad
parent because I have to leave my baby in
daycare 5 days out of the week then I
guess I am. I have to work to support my
child and put a roof over her head. I
will not be spending the money I make on
'going out clothes' and 'drinking' like
you spend your benefit monies. I didn't
think that could have a baby and I am
still worried that I may loose her, so
once she is here I will be the most
happiest person to have my baby. I am
taking a full three months off of work to
keep her and let her grow before I will be
putting her in daycare. I have also
chosen a daycare that is right down the
road from where I work and is associatied
with my work and has video camaras so I
can watch her the whole time to make sure
she is ok.
.D.O.N'.T .J.U.D.G.E .M.E
genipher
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AlliE_18
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2129 Location: uk
Posted: 04-21-06 08:33am
I never said theres anything wrong with
daycare centres. Personally I wouldnt do
that unless I really had to, which luckily
living in england I dont need to work
until lucas is 4yrs old and starts school,
unless I choose to. But like you, if I
needed to work then he would have to go in
daycare. My point was that leaving a
child in daycare all day is pretty similar
to leaving them with a sitter, and if you
dont have a problem with one then you
shouldnt have a problem with the other.
In both cases the baby is being looked
after while you arent around. So you cant
complain about what im doing.
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AlliE_18
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2129 Location: uk
Posted: 04-21-06 08:39am
sunflower_pie81
wrote:
I will not be spending the
money I make on 'going out clothes' and
'drinking' like you spend your benefit
monies.
nope. I buy all the stuff he needs first
diapers wipes etc, then food, I save some
every week too and whatevers left I spend
on alcohol. It isnt that much.
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Melissa_20
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 04-21-06 09:08am
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Sunflower_pie81
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 5041 Location: to hell with this crap
Posted: 04-21-06 09:12am
Daycare and leaving my baby with a sitter
all night isn't the same thing. I am
working to put a roof over my and my
baby's head. Unfortunatly, I can't afford
not to work until my baby is 4 y/o, but I
can take three months off with her to help
her grow so I won't feel like I am dumping
my newborn. I have a better reason to
send my baby to daycare than dumping her
with a sitter so I can get sloshed.
Hun, your's is yours and I just see it
differently than you do. I am not
judging you anymore, becuase you need to
do whatever the hell it is that you think
is right for you and your baby, leaving
him every weekend must be right for you
and him.
We are two differnent people and you dont'
need to justify yourself to me, who am i?
So I am done.
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Bridget
Moderator
Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Posts: 10821 Location: ,
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Posted: 04-21-06 10:17am
Allie is the fatfamily of the teen forum.
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AlliE_18
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2129 Location: uk
Posted: 04-21-06 10:49am
iheartmybostonterrier
wrote:
allie is the fatfamily of
the teen
forum.
that doesnt make sense! Im not pretending
im 10 months pregnant with twins which are
really tumors because she has cushings
syndrome. Or do you mean like because
people keep going on about it? Yeah that
makes more sense. Im not trying to argue,
but if someone is saying stuff all the
time about what im doing is making me a
bad mother, then im going to defend
myself. If you dont agree with it you
dont need to keep bringing it up. Im
doing what im doing im not hurting anyone.
So can everyone drop it now, I know your
opinions! Its friday !!!!!!
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Sunflower_pie81
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 5041 Location: to hell with this crap
Posted: 04-21-06 11:45am
allie_18
wrote:
iheartmybostonterrier
wrote:
allie is the fatfamily of
the teen
forum.
that doesnt make sense! Im not
pretending im 10 months pregnant with
twins which are really tumors because she
has cushings syndrome. Or do you mean
like because people keep going on about
it? Yeah that makes more sense. Im not
trying to argue, but if someone is saying
stuff all the time about what im doing is
making me a bad mother, then im going to
defend myself. If you dont agree with it
you dont need to keep bringing it up. Im
doing what im doing im not hurting anyone.
So can everyone drop it now, I know your
opinions! Its friday
!!!!!!
you were the one that made my post about
you. I was just making a statement, my
cousin is the same as you and I don't
approve either. But I was just generally
making a statement. Thats was all. You
made it about you....Don't know why but
you seem to always make things about you.
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wannababy25
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 262 Location: Near Ottawa, ON
Posted: 04-21-06 11:53am
No...Allie...I don't think that's what she
meant.
I feel the same way...But it's not because
you have anything in common with fatfamily
or her story. It's just that you can't
seem to post anywhere without someone
starting a big uproar! I mean...Why is
everyone still going on about this??? So
you go out and get drunk on the
weekends...Your baby's safe and you had
the chance to get out. Everyone's
different and you're entitled to raise
your baby as you see fit. I'm just happy
to hear that you at least take the steps
to ensure your baby doesn't see or feel
the affects of your drinking! :)
personally I couldn't do this so soon
after having a baby...But that's just
me...And well...You're you...And
well...People are different. Omg!!!
*shock*!!!
I'm guessing you must regret the day you
ever posted about getting a sitter?? Lol!
I think it may take forever for you to
live than down around here. My
suggestion...Try not to take what the
girls here say so personally. You
shouldn't feel you have to defend yourself
from every comment. Don't waste your time
or energy. They wont change their minds
and you wont change yours...So this post
could go on forever.
To everyone else...Why don't we just drop
it already? I know this is a teen
forum...You can tell...All this petty
bickering!!!! It's like a bunch of kids
picking on some girl they don't
like...It's truly sad. Everyone must have
had their say by now...At some point it
just becomes harassment went you can't
even let her post without turning it into
a debate because she hasn't posted pics or
you don't like how she raises her child.
Just in case everyone forgot....Here's
allie's first post on this topic:
allie_18
wrote:
im slim again too, but with
big boobs thanks to breastfeeding! Lol
too big
personally I don't see anything in here
that would have started this fight or
debate or whatever you want to call it.
But...As soon as she tries to post
something as innocent as the above...You
still feel the need to shoot her down!!
Shame on all of you!
honestly though while I
don't support allie going out every
weekend it really isn't that unusual in
the uk, especially with the younger
mom's.
I know it's kinda hard to understand and
because most of my online friends are from
us and canada ever since I first got
pregnant with oliver, I guess I have kinda
seen things thier way.
Also I did my drinking and drugs phase
before I conceived oliver and had given up
drinking and smoking by then anyway - yeah
I know i'm getting old hahahahaha
but no for her age group and for the
culture in which she lives aliie isn't
doing anything unusual at all. In fact
she is being one of the more careful ones
- honestly.
All too many young mom's in this country
are either going out and leaving baby home
alone (yes alone) or getting a neighbours
kid (13-15 maybe) to sit in their council
flat with the baby until they get in from
partying then the sitter goes home and
drunk mom is in charge of baby.
At least allie is leaving her kid with the
sitter overnight.
Every weekend - bit much in my opinion but
for her age group/culture nope shes
perfectly
normal.
that's the thing, allie tells us she's
leaving her baby with a sitter, but why
believe her when she's lied about a lot of
other things?
Someone who was pregnant with a child,
didnt feel it moving but yet didnt go to a
doctor is someone who isn't smart enough
to get a babysitter in my eyes, not to
mention everyone supposed her baby had
died because she said "it was for the
worst" and when everyone showed sympathy
"i'm so sorry you're baby died allie"
she said not one word, but let people say
that.
If I was in that situation and people said
sorry my child had died when it really
didn't, I would of cried and would of said
something like "no!!! He didn't die, this
just happend to him and would of went on
about what happend & why he wasn't
moving.
What kind of mother sits there and reads
sympathy notes from others online talking
about how their own child has died?
how about terra and I donate
some boob?Heck,you can even have some butt
to go with it
lol
who was that directed to?
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Melissa_20
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 04-21-06 12:28pm
michelle1981
wrote:
melissa_20
wrote:
how about terra and I donate
some boob?Heck,you can even have some butt
to go with it
lol
who was that directed
to?
lmao,wrong thread sry! :oops:
actually not the wrong thread.Look on the
previous page,thast what I was referring
to : ) just a tad bit late
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HcoBrunette06
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 8005 Location: Missouri, United States
Thanks: 2
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Posted: 04-21-06 13:17pm
Hahah no I like my butt!
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Melissa_20
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 04-21-06 13:44pm
No,i meant some of my butt! Lol (or
thighs. . .)
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seksiHily
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1015 Location: MN
Posted: 04-21-06 13:46pm
Honestly I dont see the to-do with allie I
honestly dont think she is really a mother
so I dont think theres any problem
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HcoBrunette06
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Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 8005 Location: Missouri, United States
Thanks: 2
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Posted: 04-21-06 14:29pm
Haha maybe not.
I just dont see why alcohol is so
important to her when she has a baby to
take care of, first she said "no guys this
is a one time deal, its not gonna happen
all the time" and in the next thread she
said "well lately ive been going out every
weekend and leaving him with a sitter over
night"
woo hoo allie its friday, lets go get
drunk and high again like last weekend,
fun.
