menthos- how is your doctor consultation
working out? i do feel for you.. we are
all in the same boat here. try to relax
and i hope your parents will help you if
surgery is needed.
the visit to the doctor , think the
term was maxillofacial surgeon. or
something like that.
spent alot of hours there. the bad news
is my face is indeed messed up. it wasnt
because of a punch to the face, but a
genetic defect or a bone problem as the
doctor put it.
the good news is that its fixable. damn
scary to experience, but its fixable. damn
expensive too. so really the only thing
keeping me from going on with the
procedure is the lack of money.
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methos64
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Posted: 06-13-08 01:03am
for those of you posting pics. the way the
doctor did it to me, was taking pics of
your face from the front. then the same
thing but doing your biggest smile. then
take a pic from the left and right side
straight on, so theres no angle, just the
partial view of ur face.
that would be the best way for all of us
to see if theres noticeable asymmetry.
if u think ur face just looks a bit off
but arent sure. u can look in the mirror
and be very still with ur facial
expressions and use a small ruler and
take ur measurements. from that u will
know if ur face truly is asymmetrical.
anyways im back. for one i never got an
email someone posted something new on
here, so i figured no one bothered to post
here again.
also ive been kinda busy helping out a
friend (a youtube celebrity) with her
online show. and just trying to get things
in order. i predict ill start the
procedure for the surgery when i turn 25.
which means ill probably have the actual
surgery when im 26. and thats when ill
have my straight face, along with straight
teeth.
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Biani
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Posted: 06-17-08 17:28pm
Hey Methos! good to have you back!
I'm glad you found out how to fix it...
how much is it? I know you said
"expensive" but there are levels of
"expensive", know what i mean? lol
And I'm curious... no slicing? how's that?
they do cut you from inside the mouth,
don't they?
I don't have much updates on my situation,
after i went to the orthodontist one of
them said she would call me back once she
had my dental impressions ready, she
hasn't. The other doctor who seems to know
more about the jaw joint and such things
told me that it did seem that my problem
was skeletal as well. That the best thing
would be to wear a splint to see if my
bite can be de-programmed or something. He
too said he would call me to set up a
meeting, and hasn't. I haven't bothered to
call them either. I think this weekend i'm
going to go over there to at least get my
x-rays and take them somewhere else.
They're not looking too professional to me
not keeping their word like that...
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kirrabeachbum
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hey biani Posted: 06-18-08 00:04am
what are you planning on doing in terms of
correction, if anything? I didn't catch
that...
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kirrabeachbum Posted: 06-18-08 00:52am
I basically wanted to know if anything
could be done, hopefully braces or
something not so complicated that involved
surgery. My teeth are really out of whack,
they are tilted in a way that makes me
bite to my left, i was hoping that by
straightening them my jaw wouldn't be so
far to the left... but apparently i have
condyle issues as well as skeletal,
although this hasn't been properly
explained to me, the doctor just told me
over the phone that it looked like it was
skeletal, that he recommended splint
therapy first, and blah blah.
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kirrabeachbum
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hey Posted: 06-18-08 01:11am
hmmm
I know my younger brother was told once by
the orthodontist that he should have his
jaw broken so they could pull his lower
jaw farther out, but I look at him and
honestly it looks fine/great a la
Cristiano Ronaldo. From the pics I saw of
you on the forum I honestly didn't see
anything wrong, and I have like an OCD
with my face stuff, although it's 75% of
the time something I don't think about..
Do you have any recent photos?
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Posted: 06-19-08 12:06pm
Really? you don't see anything wrong? :S
lol, i find that to be very good news,
but... how can you not see it? haha, well,
those pictures are kind of recent, they
are from 2 months ago. Here are some from
last week, i don't know if you can tell
anything from them... one is very small
and in the other one i'm not facing front,
so i think it camouflages my whole "mouth
to the left / nose to the right" issue.
I have another pic at home where i think
it looks VERY obvious, i'll get it and
upload it soon.
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kirrabeachbum
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biani Posted: 06-19-08 15:01pm
take a photo straight from the front if
you can...
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Posted: 06-21-08 13:59pm
Hey, well here's a link to another pic. I
think it's very straight from the front,
although you can't see my ears so i have
doubts, haha. Anyways, there it is!
This type of pic is the one that i try to
avoid all the time...
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hey biani Posted: 06-22-08 23:06pm
Okay my computer is having some trouble
right now clicking on links, but I'll take
a look at that when I can soon.
Were you the one that said when you looked
at my youtube videos
(www.youtube.com/kirrabeachbum) you said
when I talk my mouth looks like it's
slightly raised on one side?
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kirrabeachbum Posted: 06-23-08 17:50pm
Yep, that was me. Why do you ask?
Mmh... about the link thing, you can
copy-paste it into your browser window
too, see if that works.
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hey biani Posted: 06-23-08 18:24pm
Yea I tried to copy and paste the link
last night, but my right click wasn't
working. Sometimes that happens when I
leave my computer on for a whle for some
random reason?
Just checked out the photo and this is
coming from someone like myself who
definitely looks out for asymmetry in
people and after you've told me you have
it, and I've studied your photo for a few
minutes. I would say I can only BARELY
tell after looking at your photo for a
couple minutes, and I mean barely, like on
a scale of 1 to 100, maybe a 6. I think
my face on a scale of 1 to 100 would be
like a 10, with my deviated septum and
slightly crooked jaw, which i think can be
seen pretty good in my videos on youtube.
That's why I asked! =)
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Biani
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Posted: 06-25-08 19:30pm
Oh c'mon!!! you've got to be kidding!
Yours is the one that is barely
noticeable!!!
Though your comment makes me feel less
self concious, for that, thank you! but i
really find it hard to believe that even
after me telling you what's wrong with my
face you couldn't see it and even think
i'm less crooked than you! Cause really,
my nose points right and my jaw points
left, and my whole mouth is skewed...
Anyway, thanks again for not noticing,
haha.
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methos64
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Posted: 06-27-08 20:58pm
Biani
wrote:
Hey Methos! good to have you
back!
I'm glad you found out how to fix it...
how much is it? I know you said
"expensive" but there are levels of
"expensive", know what i mean? lol
And I'm curious... no slicing? how's that?
they do cut you from inside the mouth,
don't they?
I don't have much updates on my situation,
after i went to the orthodontist one of
them said she would call me back once she
had my dental impressions ready, she
hasn't. The other doctor who seems to know
more about the jaw joint and such things
told me that it did seem that my problem
was skeletal as well. That the best thing
would be to wear a splint to see if my
bite can be de-programmed or something. He
too said he would call me to set up a
meeting, and hasn't. I haven't bothered to
call them either. I think this weekend i'm
going to go over there to at least get my
x-rays and take them somewhere else.
They're not looking too professional to me
not keeping their word like
that...
i think the total cost including
everything was $20,000. the bone scan
alone is $2,700.
he said theres no slicing or cutting
involved. that when i awoke i would just
have 1 stitch on each side of my cheek
from the screw they put in during the
surgery.
i was too nervous to ask exactly what is
done. im guessing they will just rearrange
and move everything and use the screws
and plates to hold the bone in the new
position.
but the doc did make it seem like it wasnt
that big of a deal as far as what will be
done. but well this guy is supposed to be
the best of the best. so to him its
probably a simple procedure. that the only
reason why i need braces, is for the
surgery. if my teeth were straight and
well alligned, then there'd be no waiting
period.
yeah i think u should go another
specialist. cause from what i was told,
there isnt much one can do because its not
a teeth problem, its a bone problem. if ur
bite was off because of ur teeth being
crooked , then thats one thing. but it
seems like ur jaw is just as skewed as
mine. if u took a pic with a big smile
and ur upper and lower teeth are slanted.
then thatd mean u got the same problem as
me.
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methos64
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Re: hey biani Posted: 06-27-08 21:04pm
kirrabeachbum
wrote:
Okay my computer is having
some trouble right now clicking on links,
but I'll take a look at that when I can
soon.
Were you the one that said when you looked
at my youtube videos
(www.youtube.com/kirrabeachbum) you said
when I talk my mouth looks like it's
slightly raised on one
side?
in your happy new year vid, i too
noticed that when u speak, ur lip looks
slightly raised on one end. thats really
the only thing i saw that was off.
everything else seems quite normal.
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hey methos Posted: 06-27-08 21:08pm
When you say slightly raised? Like on a
scale of 1 to 100, what would you rate it,
1 being perfectly symmetrical?
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methos64
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Re: hey methos Posted: 06-27-08 21:19pm
kirrabeachbum
wrote:
When you say slightly
raised? Like on a scale of 1 to 100, what
would you rate it, 1 being perfectly
symmetrical?
thats mighty big scale. i would say
from 1 to 10. 1 being perfect. 10 being
totally slanted. i would say its a 4.
cause i doubt anyone else would notice it.
while for me, i now look at faces very
closely to find any asymmetry. and at
times its like yeah one end of ur lip
rises.
in ur vids sometimes it seems like your
chin might be slightlly deviated to one
side. but then other times it seems like
its normal and its just that one cheek is
thinner on one side than the other.
though if i were u, i wouldn't obsess
about it. cause whatever imperfection u
got in ur face, is hardly noticeable.
while mine on the other hand is obvious
and is uncomfortable at times.
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kirrabeachbum
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hey Posted: 06-27-08 21:29pm
4 out of 10??! Wow...that's not too
good...that's VERY CROOKED me thinks...
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methos64
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Re: hey Posted: 06-27-08 21:36pm
kirrabeachbum
wrote:
4 out of 10??! Wow...that's
not too good...that's VERY CROOKED me
thinks...
no 10 would be very crooked. 4 just means
that its there, doesnt make u look ugly ,
not too noticeable, but its there.
you should be so lucky that its just ur
lip when u talk, for me my lip is always
slightly raised and when i smile, pshh
forget it.
so i say u should rejoice that u have
nowhere near as bad as the rest of us.
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Posted: 07-02-08 13:48pm
Wow, 20,000... ouch. I still don't know
what the veredict on my case is... i'm
gonna go on friday, again. Ugh... I think
that in my case half of the issue is my
teeth, but who knows?
i think the total cost including
everything was $20,000. the bone scan
alone is $2,700.
he said theres no slicing or cutting
involved. that when i awoke i would just
have 1 stitch on each side of my cheek
from the screw they put in during the
surgery.
i was too nervous to ask exactly what is
done. im guessing they will just rearrange
and move everything and use the screws
and plates to hold the bone in the new
position.
but the doc did make it seem like it wasnt
that big of a deal as far as what will be
done. but well this guy is supposed to be
the best of the best. so to him its
probably a simple procedure. that the only
reason why i need braces, is for the
surgery. if my teeth were straight and
well alligned, then there'd be no waiting
period.
yeah i think u should go another
specialist. cause from what i was told,
there isnt much one can do because its not
a teeth problem, its a bone problem. if ur
bite was off because of ur teeth being
crooked , then thats one thing. but it
seems like ur jaw is just as skewed as
mine. if u took a pic with a big smile
and ur upper and lower teeth are slanted.
then thatd mean u got the same problem as
me.
