People such as myslef come here with their
latest symptoms freaking out...2 or 3 or a
week later were back with another .
Does anyone have any positive storys to
contribute to help lift the mood?
Maybe a thread were everyone can look at
when they feel down, anxious or in a
panic.
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paul b
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 May 2006 Posts: 26 Location: Manchester,England
... Posted: 05-06-06 16:55pm
The best feelin for me is when i`ve had a
bad couple of weeks or even months,when
i`ve had anxiety,chest thumps,tiredness
ect every minute of every day for 2-3
weeks solid,then when it easies off and I
can have a couple of good weeks axiety
free,i love it,especially when i`ve
suffered for 20 years,when it gives me a
break,its great,sometimes I can crack a
smile,i even go outside for a walk down to
my local flea market for a change...
*but to every good bit there`s always
comes a bad part*
the worst part is one day when I get
up,and I can feel the anxiety creeping
back,i just think "oh no" here we go again
!!
But I have an ok doctor,i can just ring
him up,and he calms me down,i`ve gotta
say,that n.H.S direct is`nt that good,they
just dont know what to say..Even when I
had real real bad panic attacks and phoned
an ambalance,some paramedics/ambalance
drivers think we`re a bunch of cranks,i`ve
had some make jokes to each other in front
of me,they think we`re time wasters,i even
had my previous doctor say to me,if I keep
getting the ambalance or emergancy doctor
out,there going to start charging me
money...
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trying_to_cope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Seattle
a Semblance of Self-reliance Posted: 05-17-06 01:43am
There are books out there to assist you to
become self-reliant in negating the
detrimental impact of an anxiety attack.
I have a mental routine that I go through
when under the gun. It is personal, but
I developed in combination from the sam
obitz book and the anthony robbins book.
The only difference would be if you get
some sub-conscious benefits from receiving
your doctor's attention, you know?
Limited Success So Far But Encouraging Posted: 05-20-06 17:26pm
I am in the midst of a cbt group and I
think I am starting to turn the corner on
my anxiety. I have found the more I use
and the better I am getting at doing the
tea form exercise from the book by sam
obitz that we are using in my group the
better able I am to deal with stress and
daily life. I still have seven weeks to
go in my group but I am starting to
believe the effect of changing your
thinking will be cumulative and this may
be the answer I have been looking for.
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trying_to_cope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Seattle
Question For You Johnr Posted: 05-21-06 14:56pm
Do you derive more benefits from the cbt
group, or from the solitary experience of
doing tea forms and the like (from obitz's
book)?
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Re: Question For You Johnr Posted: 05-23-06 19:02pm
trying_to_cope
wrote:
do you derive more benefits
from the cbt group, or from the solitary
experience of doing tea forms and the like
(from obitz's
book)?
that's a good question and I honestly
don't know but the more I use the tea
forms the better I seem to be getting at
changing the way I think and react to
things. I think doing the tea forms has
been the main thing that has helped me but
having the support of the others going
through the same process with me is extra
support and I needed that in the begining
more than anything so they have both
provided with invaluable help. Did you
learn the tea form in a group or on your
own? How are you doing now? I'm open to
any advice!
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mitch7654
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 170
Posted: 05-23-06 19:18pm
Whats the tea form
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 05-25-06 18:24pm
It's an exercise they use in cognitive
therapy to help you learn to think more
accurately and eliminate the thoughts that
cause anxiety. Tea stands for
thought-error-answer. It's a simple
exercise you do on a piece of paper with
three columns on it. It seems to be
working for me so far.
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 06-05-06 15:15pm
Did you give it a try yet mitch? It's
hard to do them at first but you'll get
the hang of them if you keep doing them.
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 06-09-06 00:33am
Mitch I just replied to your pm so check
your in box.
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 08-01-06 15:50pm
Mitch I have not heard back from you did
you receive my pm? I hope you are well.
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admin
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 3235 Location: Coral Springs, FL USA
Thanks: 91
Thanked:17
Posted: 08-03-06 05:18am
Positive stories...
I think I experience a constant, low-buzz
type of mild anxiety. It's with me when
I wake up.
When I feel at my worst I have to buck up
and do what I don't want to do. Often,
that implies some kind of work. Mental,
emotional, physical. I ask for help from
trusted friends and practice right
thinking and right action.
This is not easy. The more I try to do,
the more the anxiety seems to grow. So,
sometimes, I just trust that i'm right
where I need to be, and that the feeling
will pass.
Hope it helps someone.
koa
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 63
Posted: 08-06-06 10:56am
The best time for me is when I can get
completely relaxed and actually have a
good conversation with someone without
worrying about my breathing or my
stressful life. When I can kick back and
feel good. It seems once I feel good I
fear the anxiety of coming back...And of
course it eventually does...But thats when
I feel the best.
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trying_to_cope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Seattle
Well Johnr... Posted: 08-07-06 23:12pm
Somedays are good and somedays are so-so.
I don 't have horrible days anymore.
The worst was being in public and feeling
paralyzed with fear and terrified that I
couldn't get to my car and get home. Now
that is a thing of the past.
The group now meets just once a month, but
it has been helpful. I think the tea
forms in the obitz book have been the
singularly biggest thing for me. I can
turn to them at absolutely anytime.
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Posted: 08-11-06 16:35pm
Thanks for sharing that trying to cope. I
always keep some paper and a pencil with
me in case I come into a situation where I
feel the need to counter my thoughts in a
tea form. It is not happening as often
now but I feel an ounce of prevention is
worth a pound of cure. I am envious that
your group still meets monthly because as
soon as I was donme with mine they pretty
much said 'now you are on your own.' I
asked about continuing to meet but they
said that would reinforce the need for
outside support and if we keep using the
exercises we won't need outside help
anymore... Time will tell I guess.
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trying_to_cope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Seattle
Yes Johnr Posted: 08-31-06 01:28am
Like ob itz says, you can turn to those
tea forms at any time! It's nice to know
that they can be done virtually anywhere.
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yonx
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Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 43 Location: new zealand
Positive Examples Posted: 08-31-06 18:48pm
Koa, I agree that happily talking is a
good pick up, but as you say, this is
temporary relief.
I have had a lot to do with using 'bach
flowers' in the treatment of anxiety,
panic attachs, anger, fear, negativity,
and all of the negative emotions that you
can think of are treatable with these bach
flowers. Even suicidal tendencies.
A friend's son was very suicidal, (had
made attempts). He was secretly given
bach fls and became a completely changed
young man.
Another person's son was very negative
about getting ahead in life, but whenever
he took bach fls he became full of
positivety and would get to work on the
necessarys.
A young actress who was so stressed every
time she had an audition, actually
freaking out, sailled through without the
usual symptoms. She was dreadful to live
with for a whole week before the
appointment.
A lady aged 60, who was so irritable, and
downright nasty at times, changed
completely. Part of her mixture had a
flower for confidence, and she was amazed
to find herself volunteering to give
public talks at meetings she used to
attend.
I have taken courses myself, plus my
family, with great results.
There are lots more examples. The
course is over 6 weeks. One squirt a day
will do it even though they recommend 4
times daily. (i found that people would
forget to take the other doses , but it
still worked). Then you should be able
to go without it for a while, sometimes a
long while. If the symptoms start coming
back you need to get onto it
immediately.
If anyone has heard of rescue remedy, this
is the basic group of bach flowers,
usually taken when something stressfull
comes along. There is a list of all of
the other bach flowers, and what they are
for, usually in health shops. You ask
the attendant to add the ones appropriate
to your symptoms to a bottle of rescue
remedy. You can add up to 6 of these
extra flowers to the bottle. Some
countries will not have these products,
and no, I have no personal interest in the
sale of these products. (in case that
crosses your mind)
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johnR
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 229
Re: Yes Johnr Posted: 09-12-06 14:28pm
trying_to_cope
wrote:
like ob itz says, you can
turn to those tea forms at any time!
It's nice to know that they can be done
virtually anywhere.
indeed. I hope you are doing well this
week ttc :d
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trying_to_cope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Seattle
Yea Johnr, Thanks Posted: 11-28-06 20:38pm
I'm doing alright.
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Rope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 9
Posted: 11-28-06 21:22pm
This sucks for me a lot, but the only time
I don't feel lightheaded and actually feel
like a human being is when i'm on my
period. Then a couple days later I feel
like i'm going to explode, but those few
days of feeling like an actual human being
are alright.
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