Something That Always Irritates Me. Posted: 05-15-06 20:43pm
I am always irritated by when someone
says, "have you thought about adoption?"
"what about adoption?" "have you heard
all of your options-like adoption?"
because it is invariably followed by this
statement, "because [insert some number
here] couples are just dying to
adopt *your* child!"
what a load of sh*t! If there are
couples out there who are just dying to
adopt, why don't they adopt one of the
.H.U.N.D.R.E.D.S. O.F.
T.H.O.U.S.A.N.D.S of
children languishing within the adoption
and foster programs?
Oh, that's right...Because they aren't
white, healthy, infants (bonus points for
the possibility of blonde hair
and blue eyes). A child over the age of
2 who is still within the system has
more of a chance of getting hit by
lightning than they do of being adopted.
So, where are all of these couples who are
just dying to adopt when there
.A.R.E literally hundreds of
thousands of children waiting for
"good" homes?
I put 'good' in quotation marks because if
a couple is sooooo shallow as to only
want a specific kind, color, etc. Of
child then I doubt the quality of said
home. Clearly, a couple who wants a
specific type of child is more concerned
with keeping up certain appearances than
they are of actually being parents.
A good friend of mine in highschool became
pregnant and decided that she would follow
her families beliefs and teachings, keep
the pregnancy, and give the resulting
child up for adoption since both she and
the father were scholarship candidates for
good colleges next year.
She called several adoption agencies but
everytime she told them the .R.A.C.E of
the father, they stopped taking her calls,
ignored her, or told her, "i'm sorry but
you're not a viable candidate for our
program." in the end, she could find no
one who wanted to adopt a half black, half
white child and had an abortion at the
start of her second trimester.
Adoption is not an alternative to
abortion, like some people seem to
believe. It is instead an alternative to
parenting but if no one
wants to parent your ethnic or handicapped
child, then what options are you really
left with?
It truly is strange to me that people will
wait upwards of 7 years to adopt an infant
when there are children, who are still
very young children, waiting.
Most women aren't blind and we certainly
aren't stupid. We all know what this
process is actually like and how ugly it
truly seems to be. Is it any wonder why
many .Women do not view this as a viable
option even when they decide to remain
pregnant?
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AvatarOfUrDreams
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All Females Should Be Given Morning After Pills... Posted: 05-18-06 20:22pm
Right freeking on sister!!
I am/was friends with quite a few people
that were in state custody & the only
thing that ever happened to them was
abuse, rape, rape, more rape, beatings,
neglect, rape, exc. & these are all
males! One friend was even given to a
couple just so they could use him, at the
age of 8, as a servant to clean up after
them! Luckily, a caseworker found out
about this, & the beatings, & took
him out of that home!
By the time he was adopted by his final
family, good people that just wanted a
child no matter what they got, he was so
screwed up that he ended up addicted to
every substance known to man kind &
eventually ended up killing himself
because he couldn't deal with what had
happened to him.
It is the same story no matter who I talk
to, male, female, young, or old. A
majority of kids in foster care/state
custody end up so used & abused that
they can never have a truly happy life.
The story above happened to one of the
nicest guy's I have ever met & he was
one of my closest friends. We are still
not 100% sure it was suicide or
accidential overdose...& we will never
know.
If those people that protest in front of
abortion clinics really gave a damn then
they would be standing there not with a
sign but with a contract! A contract
stating that they will take in the child
& give it the good home & love
that the birth parents obviously can't
provide for it!
I am pretty sure that a just and loving
god will punish the protesters a lot more
harshly then the women who will grieve for
the rest of their lives over the loss of
their child.
& there is a big difference between
grieving for the loss & regreteing
going though with it.
They thought the situation out &
realized that having a child you can give
your all to is the only right thing to do.
If you can't give it what it needs to
live a long & happy life then it is
not time for that child!
If information about the morning after
pill was not being distorted & twisted
then most of these abortions would not be
needed in the first place!
It should be a requirement that all
females should have a 6-pack of m.A.P.'s
on them at all times! It solves all your
problems right then & there!
Fooking bible-thumping-whack-jobs are
causing the abortions that they claim they
want to stop!
Ok, i'll stop now before I get angry...
I hope I have helped some of you with my
opinions!
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sandyallen
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Posted: 05-19-06 19:48pm
I know exactly what you are saying jenn
and avatarofurdreams I am sure that their
are a few good homes and a few children
might be adopted properly but it is a sad
situation for too many of them, that is
why I say, let's keep abortion legal at
least they are better off then the way
that some of these children must live.
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Cambion
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Posted: 05-22-06 10:38am
Quote:
if those people
that protest in front of abortion clinics
really gave a damn then they would be
standing there not with a sign but with a
contract! A contract stating that they
will take in the child & give it the
good home & love that the birth
parents obviously can't provide for it!
i agree with this entirely - if the
freaking pro-lifers are so in love with
life, why the hell aren't they out
adopting the kids that need homes instead
of trying to save another potential human?
I fantasize about laws being put into
effect that would require anyone who is
pro-life to adopt at least one child.
Since they are supportive of life, why
don't they start supporting the life that
already exists?
I hate how people will make adoption
services seem so wonderful. No one
believes me when I say that a lot of kids
in foster care never find a happy ending -
I think someone on here in the debate
forum said that adoption services are
wonderful because they have one
friend who was adopted and lives a normal
and happy life. I think these idiots know
what happens for a lot of adopted kids,
but they just prefer to sweep it under the
carpet so adoption can maintain it's "save
the baby, goody goody!" reputation.
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rinsha
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Posted: 05-22-06 11:13am
Totally agree I was put into a foster home
before only for a short time luckily. But
most of the time foster care homes around
here are only in it for the money. That
angers me off. Each and every child
deserves the love and care as the next.
And most foster homes could give a crap
less. I have seen soooo many foster
places around the part of alabama I am
from that have 6 and 7 foster kids. They
get around 2,700 to 3,000 dollars a month
for just one. And they sit and wait on
these poor kids checks to come in.
Basically just a free ride and plenty of
money in there pockets. And no love for
the kids.
Its so sad to see things like this and it
eerks me because its a daily thing in
america.
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Mystery23
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Posted: 08-04-06 02:53am
Well adoption is another choice love.
Someone is trying to not make you go
through that pain in abortion. I would
say that to you if you said I am pregnant
I would not advise you to abort.
They are other option but adoption is a
good solution but abortion and putting
your body through that could cause you do
not have kids again. Babies are conceived
to live not die.
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cherry88
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Posted: 08-04-06 04:53am
Ooo this is a good topic! I only read
jenn's sorry, I will read later. But
thought id add that:
pro-lifers always say ''i couldnt imagine
my life without my son and daughter''
its like 'hello, if you hadnt got up the
duff in the first place then you wouldnt
ever know.
U see what I mean? You cant imagine a
life without a feotus? U know what I mean
its not like you have chats with them when
they r the little vegetable at 7 weeks.
Peevs me right off
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Mystery23
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Posted: 08-04-06 04:55am
I kind of can't be bothered anymore
because they see it as something that is
best of them. No matter how they say the
baby would be unloved etc. I don't care
anymore because it's there choice I don't
agree though.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-05-06 23:40pm
Well just remember mystery, there is a
majority of people on this forum section
who would rather abort, for moral and
ethical reasons, than give birth.
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cherry88
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Posted: 08-06-06 06:05am
Is mystery pro-choice or pro-life? I cant
figure it out! Its a mystery!
:lol:
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Tazzy D
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Posted: 08-06-06 09:53am
By the sounds of all of her/his post I am
assuming that this person is intermediate
and not for sure. Or im saying that this
person is pro life all the way.. It is
def. A mystery..
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cherry88
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Posted: 08-06-06 10:10am
Indeed.
Oh the irony!
I was thinking she is pro-life? Maybe
your right tazzy, she swings both ways.
Lol :p
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Tylanas
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Posted: 08-06-06 10:50am
She is as pro-choice as someone like
cowboys, in the sense that she is okay
with abortion to save a mother's life, and
I think she is okay with abortion for
rape/incest, but basically every other
situation, it is bad to have an abortion.
Which is really the pro-life point of
view. Isn't this issue lovely and
confusing?
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Moo
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Posted: 08-06-06 11:39am
She constantly talks about how women who
abort are "sick" and that financial
reasons are not valid and "rubbish"
reasons to have an abortion so I can't
really believe she's pro-choice in the
slightest. I think she has a very narrow
minded view of abortion, hopefully she'll
be able to do something about that!
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sandyallen
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Posted: 08-06-06 13:57pm
I realize that I am not here to judge but
my feelings are kind of like ,moo's.
Maybe he or she could be 9 or 10 y/o and
just does not understand other female's
situation, mystery has never walked into a
situation where it is sometime's necessary
to have an abortion and has never known
very many people that has lived in a
foster home and maybe she got lucky and
got adopted into a great home(one of the
not so many lucky one's) as I have known
several that have not been very lucky that
were brought up in a not very good foster
home and like I said before some are good
but I agree with jenn, it is not a choice
that I would chose. Possibly this
male?Female(mystery) is older and is
fortunate and has a great husband, b/f,
significant other that is great to her and
she has never had to walk in some of thes
unfortunate female's shoes where they did
not have much of a choice and they felt
that aborting was their best bet at the
time(i realize that that was sort of a
repeat). I also realise that she is kind
of new but with an attitude like that,
she/he should not be posting in the
pro-choice forum.
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Moo
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Posted: 08-06-06 14:31pm
I was actually wondering whether she'd had
an abortion recently, I know some women
who do suddenly feel very angry towards
it...Maybe not, just something isn't quite
right
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sandyallen
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Posted: 08-06-06 15:59pm
Moo, that is possible, but I believe
almost anything is possible and if it is
the truth, we are here for her!
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Tazzy D
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Mystery Posted: 08-06-06 17:46pm
Mystery,
if there is something that we can do to
help you please pm me or let someone know.
We are all here for you especially if
there is something wrong or if you just
need to ask a question or just dont
understand something. No one is here to
be mean I think some of us just dont
understand your point of view. So to
start out with. Why dont you tell us a
little about yourself and how you feel
exactly on abortion or what your views are
on abortion.
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sandyallen
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Mystery Posted: 08-06-06 23:26pm
As I just said prior I am not here to
judge you. I (we)are here to help you!
I know that it is not an easy decision
even having to have one or nee
ding to have one, we do what is right at
the time. I had to have two necessary
abortions and at 1st I had two
miscaarriages, I thought I would never
have kids and my dr felt the same way and
then I had two perfect babies that are now
grown and are on their own and are doing
great! So things do turn out for the
good, when you least expect it too! We
are here for you if you need us and I was
in no wasy trying to judge you or be mean
to you! I am not a mean person and being
pro-choice does not mean that that we are
mean. If they were to take away our
choices of abortion do you realize what
would happen if females did need an
abortion, all of the red tape that that
female would have to go through. I had a
friend of mine when abortion was illegal
that no dr would touch because it being
illegal not even the backyard butcher
because he knew that she needed a
professional abortion, 2 days after she
died after bleeding to death the abortion
was approved. We don't want this to
happen to females do we?
All the best!
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cherry88
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Posted: 08-07-06 04:38am
Well in the end. Is she pro-choice or
pro-life? Thats all I wanna know. Cause
if shes pro-life. Then dont come here.Lol
im not being mean. But im not here to be
called any names. I havent been here, so
does someone wanna fill me in?
Like moo sed she ''contantly says women
are sick''??
Whats that all about?
Maybe your right moo. Maybe she did have
an abortion and is feeling angry.
