What Seems to Be the Problem Here? Posted: 05-16-06 15:17pm
Hello, everyone, I found this forum
specifically because I need advice on
something...That isn't easy for me to talk
about. I've been dating my boyfriend for
almost four years now. In the past year
or maybe even longer, i've had to be the
one to ask my boyfriend for sex. It
seems like he never wants to (he'd rather
masturbate...I hate that word). He told
me it was because of the fact that he's
been perscribed to adderall for the past
fourteen years, but i'm not that easily
convinced. He has no problem
masturbating two or three times per week
and i'm lucky if I get sex once per week.
It seems the only time he ever asks me for
sex is if he's drunk. Is it my physical
appearance? I consider myself to be
fairly attractive (not pam andersen or
anything, but I can make the occasional
head turn), I haven't gained much weight
since we've started dating and I even grew
my hair out like he wanted. We don't
even have to use condoms when we have sex
because i'm on the pill.
It's only going to get worse. We've both
lost our jobs and we have to move in with
his parents. His parents have a lot of
porno channels (whoopee!) on their tv, so
I know i'm going to really be second
fiddle to that. I hate porn, I don't
feel comfortable at all watching it.
When we do have sex, it's great and I know
that everyone masturbates, but come on
here, i'm only 21 years old! My
boyfriend talks of marriage and having
children eventually, but do I really want
to be having sex once a year after i'm 23?
Any advice would be helpful ladies,
thanks.
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fiona05
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Posted: 05-16-06 16:32pm
"he's been perscribed to adderall for the
past fourteen years" - what does this
mean? Is this medication?
Well, you need to get some sense out of
him. If this isn't something you've
discussed at length, you really need to.
This may actually be something that's
bothering him, too but he doesn't know how
to approach you about it. Guys can be
like that. And then once you get into
the habit of not tackling a problem,
there's the snowball effect... It gets
worse, and it gets harder to bring it up.
I cant really give you any answers, what
you really need to do is talk to him -
communicate. When there's problems with
me and my boyfriend, no matter how
sensitive, it always does the world of
good talking about them. You're clearly
frustrated and confused. Tell him this.
Tell him how things look from your
perspective, and how it makes you feel,
and encourage him to share his thoughts on
the matter.
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Honekaur
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Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 56
Posted: 05-16-06 17:00pm
Thanks, but i've even talked to him at
length about this. And I was even nice
to him about it, too--it wasn't a shouting
match. He's been perscribed adderall for
the past fourteen years...Adderall is a
medication that helps people who have
attention deficit disorder. If a man
takes it, it makes his penis...Well,
shrivel to say the least and his sex drive
goes down. I would say that this is the
definite problem, but he doesn't take the
medication every day like he did when he
was a child. He only takes them when he
needs to concentrate on homework, so maybe
about one or two per week. I don't think
he has a problem getting aroused, because
like I said, he has no problem
masturbating to his videos two to three
times per week. And when we do start
fooling around to have sex, he is aroused
right away.
I've asked him honestly if it was a
problem with my physical appearance (he
always compliments my looks though), if
our sex was getting too routine, if we
need to try anything different but he
insists that these aren't the problems.
I asked him if he was cheating on me and
he said no. I don't have reason to be
suspicious of that because he has never
given me any reason whatsoever to be
suspicious...And he's not a sneaky guy.
When we do have sex, it is great and he
orgasms every time. I even do a lot of
the work which he seems to like. When I
ask him why we hardly ever have sex (well,
it seems like its hardly ever to me), he
takes it as a personal attack even though
I try to console him that i'm not out to
get him...I just want to know what is
wrong. This is my first serious
relationship and I want it to be my only
serious relationship ever as does he...But
I think sex is a very important part to
any relationship and we are lacking in
this department.
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fiona05
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Posted: 05-16-06 18:36pm
I see..... This is a bit of a puzzler.
Perhaps his masturbation is simply a
habitual thing - most people see
masturbation as totally different to
sexual activity. So the part of him that
compels him to jerk off is different to
the part of him that craves sex. What
I mean is, some people masturbate just as
a sort of compulsive thing, when they're
bored, or when they cant sleep. Does
that make any sense? So I wouldnt
necessarily think it's offensive that he
does this, but the fact that he would do
this before he thinks to make love to you
is strange. Especially if the sex is
good, as you say.
I can see completely why this is a cause
for concern for you. In fact i'm
surprised he's this open with you about
the use of porn. And I can see why you
would be offended. It's sort of like
shoving it in your face - "these women get
me off, but you don't", or something.
But trust, me im not suggesting this is
the case. I dont believe it is. At
all. If anything this is probably a
psychological thing. Thing is, to be in
the mood for sex you have to be in a
certain frame of mind. Is he under
stress? Is he in any way unhappy? Maybe
he does in fact have a problem with low
sex drive. If it's like he says and the
medication is affecting him then it would
be worth a trip to the doctors to see
about what can be done about it. But it
goes without saying you'd have to be
diplomatic about it. It sounds to me
to be a problem with low libido. Maybe
there are herbal suppliments that can help
with this. Even small lifestyle changes.
But to sort it out, you need to know
100% what's behind it.
Perhaps he doesnt realise how much it
bothers you. And to come to the forum
about it, it must really bother you :(
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kissofangel20
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Posted: 05-16-06 19:45pm
Or perhaps he is gay and just doesn't want
to admit it yet? Lots of gay men have
married and had children before they
admitted they were gay. Now i'm not
saying he is...I'm just throwing it out
there.
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Honekaur
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Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 56
Posted: 05-17-06 11:27am
Hummm...Considering the garbage he jerks
off to, he's definitely not gay...And
you're right it does seem as if he's
throwing it in my face. I don't think
that is intentional though, he's not the
brightest crayon in the box. It really
hurts, but I know for a fact that i'm not
unattractive (i went to the bar last night
and I had dudes putting their arms around
me after I made it abundantly clear that I
have a boyfriend).
At any rate, it must just be a
psychological thing and my boyfriend is
not one to admit his shortcomings, that's
for sure. He would never agree to see a
doctor about this problem. I wish I
could get a little more advice; someone to
shove me in the right direction.
Because, like I said, it's only going to
get worse once we move in with his
parents. If I told you everything about
my relationship, you would probably say to
yourself, "wow, why are you dating this
loser?" but I do love him. This is just
an ongoing problem that is pretty major.
And I really have no friends or family I
could talk to who would understand this.
For example, I talked to my sister about
it and she told me she has sex with her
boyfriend maybe only once a week. But
she is okay with it and her bf doesn't
jerk off nearly as much as my man. So
talking to her didn't really help.
My boyfriend can't really be under too
much stress right now considering the fact
that we're both unemployed. We spend a
lot fo time together now, which is nice,
but we're still having sex only once a
week, if that. I really don't know
what's wrong here. : (
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sherry24
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Posted: 05-17-06 14:39pm
Hey, if your getting it once a week,
that's good. I get it maybe once or
twice a month!!! I've been with my
boyfreind for about 3 years, we have two
kids together. He likes to watch the
porno channel, and masterbate!! That
angers me off the most. He can get off,
but I can't. I've tried to talk about it
to him, he won't listen. He keeps saying
it will be better, but it hasn't. I also
told him that I would go to a different
source(toys), but he just says yeah right.
I love him with everything, but it has
to change. For me, having sex makes us
feel closer. I would be happy if I got
it once a week. It just makes me think
that he's not attracted to me anymore.
It's just frustrating :x
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Honekaur
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Posted: 05-17-06 14:52pm
Thanks sherry, i'm glad i'm not the only
one in this type of situation. Perhaps
your children are getting in the way of
your lovemaking. I know that all couples
slow down after a while, but it is just
frustrating when I ask him if he still
thinks i'm attractive (or if I have gotten
less attractive since we first started
dating. If anything, I think I became
more attractive) and he says yes. I
asked him if there was anything about my
physical appearance that I could change
and he says nothing. We decided to get a
toy, a vibrator, but now i'm the only one
who uses that. He's offended by the fact
that I use it because he thinks I get off
better with it. So it's not okay for me
to use the vibrator but it's perfectly
okay for him to jerk off looking at some
naked women in a video? >: (
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sherry24
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Posted: 05-17-06 15:03pm
Hey I completely understand. It's not ok
for them to get themselves off, and leave
us hanging. My boyfriend says, you got a
hand, use it pretty much. Which I do,
but like I said for me its not just the
sex, its feeling close. And I do think
that are kids get in the way, but he needs
to make time for me, I do everything for
him. Why can't he give me one thing I
ask for. He really good to me in
everyway but sex. Thats the only thing
were lacking. And its so frustrating.
Sometimes I think about cheating on him,
but I love him to much for that. When I
do think of that, i'm usually mad at him
for not giving me sex. When I do talk to
him, he acts like ok, will have sex
tonight, he falls asleep around 8 or so,
my kids are still up. There has to time
for sex. Maybe I gained alittle weight
from having kids, my youngest is 9 months
old, but i'm not that fat. And i'm
trying to lose weight, but it's not
working. It's just our relationship
thats making me stressed out. And my
babies!! He wouldn't even try to bring
in a toy for us. I already asked him.
He said it wouldn't feel the same. So I
don't know. Any suggestions???/
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Honekaur
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Posted: 05-17-06 18:21pm
It is okay for a guy to masturbate
(because women do too!), I wouldn't care
how many times my bf did it if the times
we had sex per week were equal or greater
to the times he masturbated. It hasn't
been like that for a very long time with
us! When I ask my bf for sex he will say
ok let's do it, but he'll be watching tv
all night and I am the one to get sick of
waiting and fall asleep. I am like you,
I like sex mostly for the intimacy. Its
great when I get off, but its not
super-important.
Your boyfriend needs to set aside time to
spend with you apart from the kids. My
boyfriend has no excuse with that. I
know the excuse he's going to make once we
move in with his parents will be "we can't
do it, they might hear us" (this summer is
really going to suck). As for your bf
not wanting to buy a toy, maybe you should
take the initiative. Buy something that
isn't too extreme (and you don't have to
go to a porn shop, just get one off of the
internet), don't tell him that you bought
it and just casually bring it out when you
start having sex. I don't understand why
he would have a big problem with it, but
if that ruins your moment then maybe you
shouldn't bother again. I feel that sex
is very important in a relationship and I
wish my boyfriend would feel the same
way.
I feel like peggy bundy (peggy: al, let's
have sex! Al: no, peg).
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sherry24
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Posted: 05-18-06 16:16pm
I feel like peggy too :d that's why I
just stop asking for it. I never had to
ask for it, because he's the one who
wanted it all the time. Now it's me, and
he just seems not to want it. It's the
same thing, he works his ass off at work,
he leaves like 4:00 am, gets home about
6:00pm, but he just eats, and then goes to
sleep. Which I understand, but not on
the weekend!! :(
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Honekaur
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Posted: 05-18-06 17:02pm
Stress is probably playing an important
role in you not getting any. Then on the
weekends your bf probably just has other
things to do. I know when my boyfriend
and I first started dating he was always
trying to get in my pants and it took him
almost three months to take my virginity.
I just wasn't ready yet (and besides he
was only 17 and I was 18). Then after
that he always asked me, but now I always
have to ask him. I want to see how long
it would take for him to approach me about
it but I could never wait that long!
Probably at least three weeks.
I hope that you're not putting yourself
down in this situation because it isn't
your fault. I hope that you don't feel
unattractive just because your bf is too
lazy to get in bed with you. I thought
that it was my appearance at first but now
(for...Some reason) I know that just isn't
true. I know it's wrong but I often
think of just dumping him. Then the
thought of having to start all over with
someone new kind of makes me want to
retch. I hope I don't end up a career
woman because I do actually want children
within the next few years!
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sherry24
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Posted: 05-19-06 08:21am
If I wait for him to approach me, it would
take more than a month. Yeah stress does
have alot to do with it, but he knows that
its hurting our relationship. I really
couldn't imagine being with anyone else.
And talking just don't so anything. I
think he's scared i'll get pregant.
Which i'm still on birth control, but not
for long. It's made me gain alot of
weight. And i'm moody all the time.
And he knows i'm quitting the shot, so
will just have to use condoms. And thats
why hes scared. Because i'll get
pregant. I already have three kids, two
are form him. I would love to have more
kids, because I came from a big family, I
have four sisters and four brothers.
Alot of nephews, I think theres five and
one niece. I
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Honekaur
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Posted: 05-21-06 09:41am
Have you ever tried the pill? I've been
on it for I think two years now. It made
me gain a little weight at first but not
much. My periods are also always right
on time and shorter then they've ever
been, so that's a good thing. I was on
the patch for about a year and that didn't
make me gain weight, but my skin dried out
where ever I would wear the patch, even if
I alternated spots. You should
definitely try a different birth control
method; I know my man wouldn't want to
have to use condoms all the time. I
think it's selfish of him, but I suppose
it doesn't feel the same at all to a man.
There isn't too much difference to me,
though i'd rather him not have to wear
one. I think it's a shame that neither
of us really have an easy time talking to
our boyfriends about this. It seems as
if yours doesn't want to discuss it at
all, and mine takes everything I say as a
personal attack.
One good thing though: I actually was able
to refuse him sex last night! Who-hoo!
That was a first for me in at least two
months. He wanted to and I just didn't
feel like it so we went to bed. If I
refuse him sex and he's that randy, I
don't mind if he jerks off. Like I said,
it just bothers me when we never have sex
and he jerks off more times per week then
we have sex. I'll never like the idea
that he looks at other women naked, but as
long as I have my "rabbit" I can keep
spiteing him because I know he hates it
when I use it. Sad that I have to think
this way though.
I do love him and would like to get
married some day. Last night my
boyfriend talked about getting me an
engagement ring as a gift for our
four-year anniversary. I don't know
quite what to think about that. I told
him that if he really wants to give me
one, he should, but not just because I
want him to. Living with his parents is
going to be a real test of our
relationship, that's for sure. : (
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sherry24
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Hey!! Posted: 05-21-06 19:58pm
I would try the pill, but I know I would
forget to take it. I'm so busy with my
kids, I raely get to take a shower. So I
know I will forget, and I don't want to do
that. The shot is so much easier, you
get it every three months. And thats
that. But I debating on wether or not to
stay on it. Its great with my periods.
I don't have any. It's just those side
effects. I was on the patch before. No
matter what I did, it came off. Even my
doctor put it on me when I went for an
appt. And it feel off a couple of days
later. So that wasn't for me. So I
don't know. I was with my ex for four
years and we always used a condom, the
whole four years. I didn't bother me or
him. :lol:
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sherry24
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Posted: 05-23-06 20:51pm
Just checking to see if everythings going
good for you.
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Honekaur
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Posted: 05-30-06 19:37pm
Hello, sorry to bring this post up again
but I finally got everything moved.
Sherry, how's it going? Please feel free
to pm me whenever you want. Everything
is ok, so far. It's hard getting
adjusted to a new city when you lived in
your old one for almost all your life.