the Morning After Pill Propoganda... Posted: 05-18-06 20:52pm
The worst thing about the anti-choice
crowd is the way that they twist the
information on the morning after pill.
They say that it causes death and
sterilization...
They call it the "abortion pill"...
They claim that it is their religious
right to not give them out to anyone that
is in need...
Well, for those of you that don't know the
facts the morning after pill is simply the
equivalent of taking a couple of birth
control pills instead of the one that you
are supposed to take every day. That's
it...
It doesn't kill anything!
Up the dose of a normal birth control pill
and there you have it, a morning after
pill...
By making these prescription only or
refusing to give them out at all the
anti-choicer's are causing abortions that
could have been prevented if these were
available to all!
And yes, I am aware that there is a slight
chance of blood clot associated with the
morning after pill... Just like there is
a slight chance of blood clots with normal
birth control pills or flying or smoking
or a billion other things.
If we handed out morning after pills to
anyone that needed one just think of all
of the abortions that would be stopped!
Think of all the trauma that will be
avoided!
Think of all the pain and complications
that could be prevented!
This goes tripple for people that say that
women are just using abortion as a form of
birth control...Even if they are, it is
because they are being denied access to
cheep and effective alternatives to
abortion like the m.A.P.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then there is the pharmaceutical
companies...Charging $75.00 in some places
for a set of pills that cost you a penny
to produce! Shame on you!
If anyone is going to burn in hell it is
the protesters and the pharmaceutical
company ceo's for doing all of the "evil"
that they do in the names of god and
profit!
We should be handing out combo packs - 1
condom & 1 set of morning after
pill's.
Use the condom but if it breaks then you
got the back up...And if it doesn't break
then you can save it for the next time one
does!!
I hope that this opens up at least one
person's eyes to the truth...
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Cambion
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Posted: 05-22-06 10:43am
I have seen the stories in the news about
freaking fundie baby-worshipping,
bible-thumping pro-lifer pharmacists who
have to do their best to ruin some woman's
life by denying her emergency
contraception because the pills are
against the pharmacist's beliefs. Since
when are pharmacists granted the right to
deny someone a prescribed medication based
on their belief system? The idiots get
hired to do their job, which is give
medications to people with prescriptions,
and not to push their beliefs on others.
I seriously think that, when people are
applying for the position of pharmacist,
they should be asked if they would ever
deny a customer medication based on
personal beliefs (meaning plan b). Anyone
who answers "yes" would not be hired. I
really hope the pharmacists who have
already done this get their come-uppance
someday. I hope they are denied
medication they need so they know how it
feels.
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AvatarOfUrDreams
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Time Mag Article...hpv Vaccine! Posted: 05-24-06 13:35pm
Has anyone else read the articles about
the h.P.V. (human papaloma virus – or
genital warts) vaccine?
The bible thumpers are claiming that if we
eliminate h.P.V. It will just cause a
riot of teenage orgies to spontaneously
happen!
There are like a dozen forms of h.P.V.
And something like 6 of them cause
cervical cancer…
h.P.V. Is the reason that female’s need
to get a pap every year… you don’t
need a pap test if you are not sexually
active cuz then you have no way of
contracting h.P.V.
I am going to go to europe in the next
year or so to visit family and I am saving
up my $ so that while I am there I can get
both the h.P.V. Vaccine and the genital
herpes vaccine!!
Unfortunately I am in the 95% of people
that get, plain, ordinary cold sores and I
had chicken pox as a child so I can’t
“get rid” of the two forms of herpes
that I already have but I want to make
sure that I never get kind #3…
since I can’t get it here at home I am
willing to not purchase a single souvenir
on my trip or splurge on expensive tours
or meals because I know that I will be
coming home with something a lot more
important! Antibodies!
And after I get these vaccine’s I am not
planning on spontaneously becoming a
prostitute… I am single by choice and
plan to stay that way until I work through
my depression…
by saying that these vaccine’s cause
people to go out and have sex is like
saying that a lung cancer vaccine will
cause everyone to go out and start smoking
or a melanoma vaccine causing people to go
out and expose themselves to the sun for
every waking moment… it is just silly!
There is only one thing that I have found
to make people act that stupid…and it is
called organized religion…
start reading the bible and you will go
out and start taking away everyone
else’s rights…
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Cambion
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Posted: 05-24-06 20:51pm
Wowwww...This is the first word I have
read of the hpv vaccine allegedly destined
to lead teenagers down the path of mad
orgies. It sounds like the same logic
that fool religious zealots use when they
bleat about how birth control makes women
promiscuous.
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PattyV
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Posted: 05-26-06 19:10pm
Teens have been having sex since the
beginning of time-this is not new stuff.
Years ago, teens got married very young-so
the issue of teen pregnancy was handled
with a visit to the preacher-or the girl
"went away to visit relatives". If
today's kids are not fearful of
contracting hiv by having unprotected sex,
a" little thing" like hpv is certainly not
going to stop them. Finding a cure for
hpv would be a great thing,but I do not
think that alone would lead to more teen
promiscuity.So out of touch,the zealots.
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PattyV
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Posted: 05-26-06 19:13pm
Teens have been having sex since the
beginning of time-this is not new stuff.
Years ago, teens got married very young-so
the issue of teen pregnancy was handled
with a visit to the preacher-or the girl
"went away to visit relatives". If
today's kids are not fearful of
contracting hiv by having unprotected sex,
a" little thing" like hpv is certainly not
going to stop them. Finding a cure for
hpv would be a great thing,but I do not
think that alone would lead to more teen
promiscuity.So out of touch,the zealots.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 05-26-06 22:58pm
Welcome back
pattyv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jenn_smithson
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Posted: 05-31-06 13:29pm
cambion
wrote:
wowwww...This is the first
word I have read of the hpv vaccine
allegedly destined to lead teenagers down
the path of mad orgies. It sounds like
the same logic that fool religious zealots
use when they bleat about how birth
control makes women
promiscuous.
are you serious? I've
been hearing it now since the first
reports that the vaccine was theoretically sound. The
"logic" goes that if the vaccine is
developed (because they .A.R.E trying to
stop it from being developed) that it will
just make teens go out and have sex
without consequences. Apparently, hpv
is "useful" in teaching people a lesson
about sex. The lesson is not "use a
condom every time from now on", the lesson
is supposedly "you aren't supposed
to be having sex at all so you deserve
what happens to you if you do."
it is the same "logic" behind blocking the
morning after pill from gaining over the
counter status. The argument was that
all of the studies about ec's safety and
effectiveness did not cover very young
girls (12 and younger) who would possibly
be using it as birth control. But the
manufacturers .D.I.D cover girls in that
age category and found that ec was safe
even for their use. The people who
opposed ec for all women argued that it
would be too easy to be obtained by girls
younger than 11 and that it would make
them more promiscuous because the
consequence of unplanned pregnancy would
be taken away.
With all discussions of contraception,
there is inevitably a discussion on who
"should" have sex and when they "should"
be having it. So, lifesaving vaccine's
(such as the hpv vaccine scheduled for
release later this year) .A.N.D birth
control is kept from all
women to punish the few who are having sex
when some people think they shouldn't.
After all, if you can have sex with no ill
consequences then the discussion of when
sex should happen really doesn't matter.
Only if there are negative consequences
can the discussion of the timing of sex be
legitimate. After all, we think that
teen sex is negative not because sex
itself is bad but because teenagers are
not yet equiped to handle the negative
outcomes of unprotected sex.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 05-31-06 14:05pm
I heard that it does not work for
everyone. If I were single and young or
felt my b/f, hubby, s/o was messing around
I would be more afraid of the uncurable
transmitted diseases but choice is shoice
and watching them pass on the way they do
is awful. With this so-called cure
being so fairly new, it is hard to say
what problems can occur down the line,
after all look at vioxx and some of the
other meds that were supposed to be so
good for you.
The morning after pill is great for some,
it is not about abortion to me, heck, how
many females have accidently taken two b,c
pills in one day. If you do not want it
don't take it and if you want it and one
pharmacy will not fill it just most of the
time you can go to another one, it is your
choice.
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natalie_samsmummy
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Posted: 07-01-06 15:03pm
The morning after pill does not have the
same amount of chemicals in it as 2 b/c
pills. It is completely different many
woman take several b/c pill in the hope
that they act as a morning after pill and
still end up pregnant.
Oh and the hpv jab in europe is not
available yet and when it is it will only
be given to girls who have not yet hit
pubety according to reports.
The general opinion here is that its just
one less std to worry about which may make
people more promiscuous but not
necessarily
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randomfatbird
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Posted: 11-28-06 13:44pm
From what I can recall, the morning after
pill merely prevents the fertilised egg
from implanting in the wall of the uterus.
It has absolutely no effect on an already
implanted egg. It works by altering the
chemical balance in your womb, and makes
it pretty much impossible for the egg to
find a suitable and safe lodging in the
womb. Thus the egg passes through the
bopdy in the same way it would normally do
in your cycle, and is ejected from the
body along with the womb lining during a
period.
I think, although I cannot be absolutely
sure without the literature in front of
me, that the morning after pill can also
make it hard for egg and sperm to meet.
The conditions mentioned above make it
very difficult for the egg to actually
become fertilised.
Whichever way you look at it, get it down
your neck as soon as youc an if you want
to use it. It's efficaciousness (is that
a real word? My inner dictionary is on
holiday) dimishes rapidly, and it's
useless after 72 hours. Best results are
obtained when it is taken within 12 hours
of unprotected intercourse.
Just my twopenn'orth of course.
K
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jenn_smithson
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Posted: 11-30-06 17:14pm
randomfatbird
wrote:
from what I can recall, the
morning after pill merely prevents the
fertilised egg from implanting in the wall
of the
uterus.
actually, a new study
released earlier this year found that both
birth control and emergency contraception
have the same two primary functions: 1) to
prevent ovulation and 2) to thicken the
lining of the cervix making it harder for
sperm to make it into the uterus. The
study found that the hormones and the
levels of the hormones did not
significantly change the lining of the
uterus in any way. In fact, the body
changes the lining of the uterus all by
itself several times during the month.
Recent research suggests that the lining
of the uterus fluctuates between hard and
soft on a wave-like pattern. They are
conducting further research to discern how
and why this occurs seemingly independent
of the other cycle.
So, emergency contraception then is used
primarily to stop the woman from
ovulating. If she has already ovulated,
then there is little else that the pills
will do beside thicken the cervix to block
future sperm from entering the uterus.
The researchers concluded that *theoretically* the
hormones could be the reason as to why the
lining in the uterus changes but that
there is no evidence of this
occurring. Some people (who shall
remain nameless) make the claim that since
it cannot be proven never to happen, it
must occur all the time. This is, of
course, ludicrous but logical thought is
not a forte of that particular group.
Quote:
i think, although
I cannot be absolutely sure without the
literature in front of me, that the
morning after pill can also make it hard
for egg and sperm to meet. The
conditions mentioned above make it very
difficult for the egg to actually become
fertilised.
this is correct.
Emergency contraception will try to stop
you from ovulating because if you do not
ovulate you cannot become pregnant.
After that, it tries to block the sperm
from entering the uterus (and thus
travelling to the fallopian tubes) by
thickening the lining of the cervix.
There has been no evidence that it has any
effect on the environment of the uterus.
Quote:
whichever way you
look at it, get it down your neck as soon
as youc an if you want to use it. It's
efficaciousness (is that a real word? My
inner dictionary is on holiday) dimishes
rapidly, and it's useless after 72 hours.
Best results are obtained when it is
taken within 12 hours of unprotected
intercourse.
it is best when taken as
soon as possible after unprotected sex or
after an accident occurs during safer sex.
It is most effective if taken
before 72 hours (3 days) after sex but can
still be effective up to 120 hours (5
days) following sex. After 120 hours,
its effectiveness drops dramatically.
And, just as a side note, the doctor's who
researched emergency contraception
recently and found that it did not stop or
make implantation more difficult - half of
them self-identified as "prolife".
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tigresacanela24
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Posted: 12-15-06 10:42am
I know this is old but I was reading
through and became offended. I am very
religious but I am also pro-choice. I do
not believe the two are mutually exclusive
since I know plenty more like me. Don't
typecast us all based on the actions of a
few insane, intrusive individuals who
completely and totally misconstrue what
their role as a "christian" is. One of
the things that the bible also teaches is
free will.
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Posted: 12-15-06 10:58am
tigresacanela24
wrote:
i know this is old but I was
reading through and became offended. I
am very religious but I am also
pro-choice. I do not believe the two
are mutually exclusive since I know plenty
more like me. Don't typecast us all
based on the actions of a few insane,
intrusive individuals who completely and
totally misconstrue what their role as a
"christian" is. One of the things that
the bible also teaches is free
will.
kay when she says religious zealots shes
talking about the ones who only care for
themselves the ones that believe a woman
is lesser than a man, that a woman has no
right but to have kids type thing. Try
not to take offense im religious in my own
way and im pro-choice that is why I know
where she is coming from!
Zealots is just another word for people
who take it overboard!!
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Posted: 12-15-06 12:37pm
tigresacanela24
wrote:
i know this is old but I was
reading through and became offended. I
am very religious but I am also
pro-choice. I do not believe the two
are mutually exclusive since I know plenty
more like me. Don't typecast us all
based on the actions of a few insane,
intrusive individuals who completely and
totally misconstrue what their role as a
"christian" is. One of the things that
the bible also teaches is free
will.
when we talk about christians on this
board, we are usually referring to the
ones who are extreme zealots, as diamonz
said. We're not talking about the ones
who can mix religion and
modern-day life. I understand that there
are many sane christians out there...
There are just some who aren't.
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Posted: 12-15-06 18:16pm
tigresacanela24
wrote:
i know this is old but I was
reading through and became offended. I
am very religious but I am also
pro-choice. I do not believe the two
are mutually exclusive since I know plenty
more like me. Don't typecast us all
based on the actions of a few insane,
intrusive individuals who completely and
totally misconstrue what their role as a
"christian" is. One of the things that
the bible also teaches is free
will.
how are you a christian (i'm assuming this
b/c you brought up the bible) and
pro-choice? Could you please explain how
they are not mutually exlusive for my own
personal betterment?
Thank u!
