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Q: Alcohol And Early Pregnancy
asked by: greeneyes33 on June 10th, 2006
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Say you found out you were pregnant and you were 4 weeks along. If you got drunk or buzzed off alcohol during that 4 weeks, but didn't know you were pregnant, what harm does it have to the baby that early in the pregnancy?
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alanna
replied on June 10th, 2006
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My doctor said not to worry about anything you did before you found out you were pregnant. But obviously now, don't drink.
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diamondsz
replied on June 10th, 2006
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Actually I see nothing wrong having a drink or two during pregnancy I actually have a link on drinking during pregnancy which refers to the studies done and so my dr gave me a go dont worry too much.


As for what you drank dont worry, I drank half a bottle of vodka before I found out and both my kids are fine, alot of people will tell you what is good and bad stress is worse just do what you think is right...
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jessesgirl
replied on June 11th, 2006
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I got drunk 3 times without knowing. The doctor said that it's fine, just don't do it again (duh). The baby's just a ball at 4 weeks.
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amberbilly
replied on July 26th, 2006
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I drank every night for 6 years straight no joke I wasen't an accoholic but I thought I needed it to sleep, anyways I conceived dec. 4 and found out I was pregnant dec 22, I havent had a drink since dec 22 but like I said I did for that 18 days or so, Dr. Said baby is healthy and the good thing about all of this is I don't need to drink to get some sleep, and will never hurt my body that way again.
Good luck to you
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Nataliachick7
replied on July 26th, 2006
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You people that drink while pregnant and think its no big deal are just plain ignorant. And if your doc says not to worry about it he is probably saying that because its too late to do anything now. The damage is done.

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drinking alcohol during pregnancy

drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause physical and mental birth defects. Each year, more than 40,000 babies are born with some degree of alcohol related damage. Although many women are aware that heavy drinking during pregnancy can cause birth defects, many do not realize that moderate—or even light—drinking also may harm the fetus.

In fact, no level of alcohol use during pregnancy has been proven safe. Therefore, the march of dimes recommends that pregnant women do not drink any alcohol—including beer, wine, wine coolers and hard liquor— throughout their pregnancy and while nursing. In addition, because women often do not know they are pregnant for a few months, women who may be pregnant or those who are attempting to become pregnant should abstain from alcoholic beverages.

Women who continue to drink alcohol, even in small amounts, while attempting to become pregnant, may reduce their chances of conceiving, according to recent studies.

A recent government survey indicated that, between 1995 and 1999, alcohol use among pregnant women decreased. In 1999, 12.8 percent of pregnant women reported having had at least one drink during pregnancy, compared to 16.3 percent in 1995. However, the rates of binge drinking (more than five drinks on one occasion) and frequent drinking (more than seven drinks per week) did not decline and remained high (2.7 percent of pregnant women reported binge drinking, and 3.3 percent reported frequent drinking). The survey suggests that about 130,000 pregnant women consumed these risky levels of alcohol in 1999. Women who binge drink or drink frequently greatly increase the risk of alcohol-related damage to their babies.

When a pregnant woman drinks, alcohol passes swiftly through the placenta to her baby. In the unborn baby’s immature body, alcohol is broken down much more slowly than in an adult’s body. As a result, the alcohol level of the baby’s blood can be even higher and can remain elevated longer than the level in the mother’s blood. This sometimes causes the baby to suffer lifelong damage.

What are the hazards of drinking alcohol during pregnancy?
According to the centers for disease control and prevention (cdc), each year between 1,300 and 8,000 babies in the united states are born with fetal alcohol syndrome (fas), a combination of physical and mental birth defects. Fas occurs in about 6 percent of the babies born to women who are alcoholics or chronic alcohol abusers. These women either drink excessively throughout pregnancy or have repeated episodes of binge drinking.

Fas is one of the most common known causes of mental retardation, and the only cause that is entirely preventable. Babies with classic fas are abnormally small at birth and usually do not catch up on growth as they get older. They may have small eyes, a short or upturned nose and small, flat cheeks. Their organs, especially the heart, may not form properly. Many babies with fas also have a brain that is small and abnormally formed, and most have some degree of mental disability. Manny have poor coordination and a short attention span and exhibit behavioral problems.

The effects of fas last a lifetime. Even if not mentally retarded, adolescents and adults with fas have varying degrees of psychological and behavioral problems and often find it difficult to hold down a job and live independently.

As many as 10 times the number of babies born with fas are born with lesser degrees of alcohol-related damage. This condition is sometimes referred to as fetal alcohol effects (fae) or fetal alcohol spectrum disorder (fasd). These children may have some of the physical or mental birth defects associated with fas. The institute of medicine has proposed more specific diagnostic categories for fae, referring to the physical birth defects (such as heart defects) as alcohol-related birth defects (arbd), and to the mental and behavioral abnormalities as alcohol-related neurodevelopmental disorders (arnd).

In general, alcohol-related birth defects (such as heart defects) are more likely to result from drinking during the first trimester, while growth problems are more likely to result from drinking in the third trimester. However, drinking at any stage of pregnancy can affect the brain.

During pregnancy, how much alcohol is too much?
No level of drinking has been proven safe. The full pattern of fas usually occurs in offspring of chronic alcohol abusers, most often in women who drink four to five or more drinks daily. However, it has occurred in women who drink less. Arbd and arnd can occur in babies of women who drink moderately or lightly during pregnancy.

Researchers are taking a closer look at the more subtle effects of moderate and light drinking during pregnancy. A 2001 study by researchers at wayne state university in detroit found that 6- and 7-year-old children of mothers who had as little as one drink a week during pregnancy were more likely than children of non-drinkers to have behavior problems, such as aggressive and delinquent behaviors. These researchers found that children whose mothers drank any alcohol during pregnancy were more than three times as likely as unexposed children to demonstrate delinquent behaviors.

Researchers at the university of washington at seattle followed to age 14 a group of middle-class children whose mothers were “social drinkers,” who drank an average of about two drinks per day. At age 7 years, when given intelligence tests, these children scored seven points lower than the average for all children in the study. At age 14, alcohol-exposed children remained more likely to have learning problems, especially with mathematics and memory, and behavioral difficulties, including attention problems. Other researchers also have reported behavioral problems in alcohol-exposed children including hyperactivity, impulsivity, poor social and communication skills and alcohol and drug use.

If a pregnant woman has one or two drinks before she realizes she is pregnant, can it harm the baby?
It is unlikely that the occasional drink a woman takes before she realizes she is pregnant will harm her baby. The baby’s brain and other organs begin developing around the third week of pregnancy, however, and are vulnerable to damage in these early weeks. Because no amount of alcohol is proven safe, a woman should stop drinking immediately if she even suspects she could be pregnant, and she should abstain from all alcohol if attempting to become pregnant.

What other problems can drinking alcohol during pregnancy cause?
Consuming alcohol during pregnancy increases the risk of miscarriage, low birthweight and stillbirth. Heavy drinkers are two to four times more likely to have a miscarriage between the fourth and sixth months of pregnancy than are nondrinkers. A recent danish study found that women who drank five or more drinks a week were three times more likely to have a stillborn baby than women who had fewer than one drink a week."

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american academy of pediatrics committee on substance abuse and committee on children with disabilities. Fetal alcohol syndrome and alcohol-related neurodevelopmental disorders. Pediatrics, volume 106, number 2, august 2000, pages 358-361.

Centers for disease control and prevention. Alcohol use among women of childbearing age—united states, 1991-1999. Morbidity and mortality weekly report, volume 51, number 13, april 5, 2002, pages 273-276.

Centers for disease control and prevention. Fetal alcohol syndrome. Atlanta, ga, april 8, 2002.

Institute of medicine. Fetal alcohol syndrome: diagnosis, epidemiology, prevention, and treatment. Washington, d.C., national academy press, 1996.

Kesmodel, u., et al. Moderate alcohol intake during pregnancy and the risk of stillbirth and death in the first year of life. American journal of epidemiology, volume 155, number 4, february 15, 2002, pages 305-312.

National institute on alcohol abuse and alcoholism. Fetal alcohol exposure and the brain. Alcohol alert, number 50, december 2000
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Bridget
replied on July 26th, 2006
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nataliachick7 wrote:
you people that drink while pregnant and think its no big deal are just plain ignorant. And if your doc says not to worry about it he is probably saying that because its too late to do anything now. The damage is done.

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exactly, it's too late to do anything about it so why worry about it? They're talking about drinking before they found out they were pregnant. As long as they stopped drinking when they found out everything should be fine. I'm not saying there won't be any damage but why dwell on things you have no control over?
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Nataliachick7
replied on July 26th, 2006
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iheartmybostonterrier wrote:
nataliachick7 wrote:
you people that drink while pregnant and think its no big deal are just plain ignorant. And if your doc says not to worry about it he is probably saying that because its too late to do anything now. The damage is done.

Blahblahblah...




exactly, it's too late to do anything about it so why worry about it? They're talking about drinking before they found out they were pregnant. As long as they stopped drinking when they found out everything should be fine. I'm not saying there won't be any damage but why dwell on things you have no control over?


there were people who posted above discussing drinking while pregnant being acceptable. "actually I see nothing wrong having a drink or two during pregnancy I actually have a link on drinking during pregnancy which refers to the studies done and so my dr gave me a go dont worry too much. "
if you read the march of dimes article I posted you will learn why there is no amount if drinking that is acceptable during pregnany, unless you are purposely trying for a retarded/delayed/aggressive child.
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Bridget
replied on July 26th, 2006
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nataliachick7 wrote:
iheartmybostonterrier wrote:
nataliachick7 wrote:
you people that drink while pregnant and think its no big deal are just plain ignorant. And if your doc says not to worry about it he is probably saying that because its too late to do anything now. The damage is done.

Blahblahblah...





exactly, it's too late to do anything about it so why worry about it? They're talking about drinking before they found out they were pregnant. As long as they stopped drinking when they found out everything should be fine. I'm not saying there won't be any damage but why dwell on things you have no control over?


there were people who posted above discussing drinking while pregnant being acceptable. "actually I see nothing wrong having a drink or two during pregnancy I actually have a link on drinking during pregnancy which refers to the studies done and so my dr gave me a go dont worry too much. "


well she's also the one who says it's ok to smoke during pregnancy and her doctor actually recommended it over dealing with the stress of quitting. But i'm not getting back into that one.

Hopefully people can use common sense and care enough about their babies not to do harmful things.
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Nataliachick7
replied on July 26th, 2006
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iheartmybostonterrier wrote:
nataliachick7 wrote:
iheartmybostonterrier wrote:
nataliachick7 wrote:
you people that drink while pregnant and think its no big deal are just plain ignorant. And if your doc says not to worry about it he is probably saying that because its too late to do anything now. The damage is done.

Blahblahblah...






exactly, it's too late to do anything about it so why worry about it? They're talking about drinking before they found out they were pregnant. As long as they stopped drinking when they found out everything should be fine. I'm not saying there won't be any damage but why dwell on things you have no control over?


there were people who posted above discussing drinking while pregnant being acceptable. "actually I see nothing wrong having a drink or two during pregnancy I actually have a link on drinking during pregnancy which refers to the studies done and so my dr gave me a go dont worry too much. "


well she's also the one who says it's ok to smoke during pregnancy and her doctor actually recommended it over dealing with the stress of quitting. But i'm not getting back into that one.


Hopefully people can use common sense and care enough about their babies not to do harmful things.


lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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amberbilly
replied on July 26th, 2006
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I never said it was ok to drink or smoke.
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Bridget
replied on July 26th, 2006
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Re: Help
amberbilly wrote:
i never said it was ok to drink or smoke.


nobody said you did. She quoted someone else from earlier in the thread.
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sandyallen
replied on July 26th, 2006
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I had a couple of small glasses of wine when I was pregnant, nothing to an excess and my babies, now adults turned out fine, I even had a couple of cigarettes(i know, shame on me) but the taste of the cigs were nasty so I generally took a couple of puffs and put them out and both of my babies were good size. I am not recommending it as I have seen babies born with fas, just like seeing a baby born where the mother has taken drugs, it is pretty much the same thing, I just never abused it, if your dr told you that things should be okay and you have asked for another opinion and you trust your dr you should be okay! I have felt that once in a while is okay, after all I am not a dr I can only speak from experience!
All the best!
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Nataliachick7
replied on July 26th, 2006
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I just want to add there are plenty of idiotic doctors out there that end up doing more harm to their patients than good. There s always a new story in the news about some loony doctor. Just take that into consideration.

Iheart, I pmed you.
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diamondsz
replied on July 26th, 2006
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Article one

is occasional light drinking during pregnancy harmful?

By ernest l. Abel, ph.D. And robert j. Sokol, m.D.


In the last two decades more than 5,000 articles have been published on the effects of alcohol during pregnancy. One might assume we'd now have some consensus about the dangers of occasional light drinking during pregnancy. Unfortunately, this isn't so. Our own sober (no pun intended) conclusion, based on a critical evaluation of the literature, is that there are no known clinically important risks to the fetus from an occasional drink during pregnancy (see below for our definition of "occasional" and "light"). Here are our reasons.

To read the rest link below
http://www2.Potsdam.Edu/hansondj/healthiss ues/1043239516.Html
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how much alcohol can a woman safely drink during pregnancy?


Animal research shows that on the cellular level, as little as one dose of alcohol can reduce brain cell adhesion and cause neurological deficits. Human research has been limited, for ethical/legal reasons, and studies conducted on children exposed prenatally to low levels of alcohol have been contradictory.
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ananova:

moderate drinking 'safe during pregnancy'

doctors have backed government advice that pregnant women can drink small amounts of alcohol without harming their baby.


The royal college of obstetricians and gynaecologists supports the department of health's view that expectant mothers can safely drink one to two units, once or twice a week.


It means mums-to-be can enjoy one or two small glasses of wine or a pub measure of spirits, once or twice a week.


The rcog rejected growing concern that even small amounts of alcohol can damage an unborn child.


"while the safest approach may be to avoid any alcohol intake during pregnancy, there is no evidence of harm from low levels of alcohol consumption," it said.


Link>>>http://www.Ananova.Com/new s/story/sm_1851597.Html?Menu=news.Sciencea nddiscovery
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i also have 3more articles as well as know about 5 drs personally that my husband works with as well as 4 obs I had and gp who were okay so before judging read

i dont know if you knew this but breatjing pollution from living in a big city can harm your baby lol f*ck people are so loony and dont sit here and tell me drs are loony

drs are practioners the dont know everything lol they practice on us

!!!Fyi!!

Most testing done is on animals lol

honestly some ppl just make me laugh medical research always contradicts itself so dont judge unless you know it all lol
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Bridget
replied on July 26th, 2006
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diamondsz wrote:


i dont know if you knew this but breatjing pollution from living in a big city can harm your baby


sure, but you don't have much of a choice with that unless you become a hermit and never go outside. You choose whether or not to drink alcohol. This is the weakest argument ever.

Common sense: don't drink, smoke, do drugs, wrestle alligators, etc while pregnant.
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diamondsz
replied on July 27th, 2006
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Common sense for what I want people to not feel like they need to stop everything their doing in life just to be a mother it doesnt happen that way, some of you would argue that if a woman wanted a abortion its her body thats exactly it what right do you have to ell people its wrong.

There is no definate reserach all of it contradicts it self, drinking caffeinated drinks contradicts itself so know everyone has the best of both articles and can make the decsion themselves. I believe everyone has a choice and that you have no right to imply what is right or wrong I just gave you my advice and the articles to back it up...

Some ppl here are too doing it anal if you choose that then fine but the ppl who choose to be relax well probally end up with all the perks and enjoying the pregnancy, I made a choice too have a glass of wine and a beer oh and both my kids are 100% healthy so I didnt take any risks.
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megums1211
replied on July 27th, 2006
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Just because your kids are ok, doesn't mean that drinking alcohol wasn't a risk. Not every woman that drinks or smokes during pregnancy will cause harm to their unborn child. No one knows who will have a healthy child or not. But, choosing to become pregnant (or not choosing but choosing to keep a baby) and have a baby comes with making mature and adult decisions. Choosing to drink or smoke during pregnancy because you are too selfish to give up what is fun to you for your unborn child is not an adult decision. My cousin smoked and drank wine throughout her entire pregnancy b/c she said, "it relaxes me and keeps my mind set on what I want out of life." well, she gave birth to a full-term baby. However, her baby only weighed 4 pounds, 8 ounces, she has a terrible skin condition that causes her veins to be so close to her skin's surface that the slightest bump to an arm or a leg can cause a terrible bruise, and her baby has asthma. So you cannot say that drinking and smoking during pregnancy isn't a risk. It is. And being a mother means putting your needs after your child's. So, would you rather put your need for drinking or smoking first and potentially hurt your unborn child? It's called sacrifices... That's a mother's love.
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Bridget
replied on July 27th, 2006
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Well put megums!

I think it's extremely selfish not to put your unhealthy habits on hold for a mere 9 months. The health of my baby is much more important to me than a beer.
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replied on July 27th, 2006
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My doctor gave me a choice when I had such horrible sciatica, he said I could take tylenol pm or I could have a glass of wine and take a warm bath to relax me.

What they are talking about when they say 'drinking' during pregnancy, is excessive drinking. More than a few drinks per day and every day drinking. An occassional glass of wine is considered 'ok'. Ask your personal doctor and do what is right for your own morals.

There are many other countries (outside .America) where having an occassional drink during pregnancy is not considered taboo and their rates of .Fetal .Alcohol .Syndrome are not higher than in the .U.S.

Do research, make your own personal decision on the matter. Attacking other people for the decisions they make for themselves is a waste of time.
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