Nataliachick7
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Posted: 07-27-06 10:24am
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Well put megums.
Ingi, I am sorry but I totally disagree.
It is your opinion that having wine
occasionaly is"ok". I have done the
research:
"during
pregnancy, how much alcohol is too much?
No level of drinking has been proven safe.
The full pattern of fas usually occurs
in offspring of chronic alcohol abusers,
most often in women who drink four to five
or more drinks daily. However, it has
occurred in women who drink less. Arbd
and arnd can occur in babies of women who
drink moderately or lightly during
pregnancy.
Researchers are taking a closer look at
the more subtle effects of moderate and
light drinking during pregnancy. A 2001
study by researchers at wayne state
university in detroit found that 6- and
7-year-old children of mothers who had as
little as one drink a week during
pregnancy were more likely than children
of non-drinkers to have behavior problems,
such as aggressive and delinquent
behaviors. These researchers found that
children whose mothers drank any alcohol
during pregnancy were more than three
times as likely as unexposed children to
demonstrate delinquent behaviors "
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Ingi
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Posted: 07-27-06 10:25am
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But it's ok for my friend to be
prescribedcodiene while she is pregnant?
I find all of it a little off.
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:01am
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Nothing wrong with having a glass of wine
or beer while pregnant. European woman
drank wine and beer for centuries and had
10-15 babies per household..This includes
both my grandmothers and my mom used to
have an occasional glass of beer while
pregnant with me and my
siblings...Absolutely nothing wrong with
anyone in my family, we are all pretty
successful and healthy...And I have had a
glass of wine too! And a few sips of beer
here and there!
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:15am
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Well thats really spectacular:roll: I dont
understand why anyone would want to take
that chance.
when a
pregnant woman drinks, alcohol passes
swiftly through the placenta to her baby.
In the unborn baby’s immature body,
alcohol is broken down much more slowly
than in an adult’s body. As a result,
the alcohol level of the baby’s blood
can be even higher and can remain elevated
longer than the level in the mother’s
blood. This sometimes causes the baby to
suffer lifelong damage.
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:17am
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Sounds like a bunch of blah blah
blah...Nothing wrong with an occasional
glass and thats my opinion you can read
everything in sight and actually believe
it but thats just not me.
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:19am
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Next thing you guys are gonna say is
"nothing wrong with an occasional snort of
cocaine, the research is contradictory"
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:22am
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Yeah now your taking it too far...How dare
you insult me that way? Listen, my family
is european and we do not follow your
american ways . Sometimes america isnt
always right. Occasional glass of beer
or wine is fine now get off my back about
it if your gonna start insulting people.
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Bridget
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:23am
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She's entitled to her opinion, emma.
Chill out.
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Ingi
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:24am
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| nataliachick7
wrote: | | next thing you guys are
gonna say is "nothing wrong with an
occasional snort of cocaine, the research
is
contradictory" |
no. Actually, no one ever said illegal
drugs were ok to use. And I never said
alcohol abuse was good either. I said an
occassional glass of wine that my
doctor told me to
drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but I guess you didn't read that part.
It's ok. I'd rather listen to someone who
actually has a degree in medicine and not
just a search engine. But, hey, to each
his own.
As far as finding the answer you want on
the internet, it is easy. I can find just
as many studies to counteract whatever it
is you post. So the point goes back to
what I originally posted: make your own
decisions per your personal moral
conviction. But trying to argue people
out of the research and personal choices
they have made is a waste of time.
I'm not trying to change your opinion.
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:25am
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| iheartmybostonterrier
wrote: | | she's entitled to her
opinion, emma. Chill
out. |
she def. Is entitled to her opinion but
to say that about cocaine that was just
plain disguting. How does a glass of wine
in the last 6 months compare to coke?
That was out of line and totally
ridiculous
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:39am
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion,
and everyone was raised in various
cultures so we're gonna have culture
clashes here. An occasional glass of
wine or beer is fine according to some
docs, (not something I did when pregnant
but my doc told me I could have a glass
at the x-mas partyif I wanted, I did not
since I figured what's the point of having
1/2 glass? Lol alcohol in the first tri
is not reccomended (except for those of us
that did not know we were pregnant and
might have drank at the begining.) that
is usually when fas occurs.
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 11:52am
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | everyone is entitled to
their own opinion, and everyone was raised
in various cultures so we're gonna have
culture clashes here. An occasional
glass of wine or beer is fine according to
some docs, (not something I did when
pregnant but my doc told me I could have
a glass at the x-mas partyif I wanted, I
did not since I figured what's the point
of having 1/2 glass? Lol alcohol in
the first tri is not reccomended (except
for those of us that did not know we were
pregnant and might have drank at the
begining.) that is usually when fas
occurs. |
yeah it is a matter of opinion and the way
youre brought up. And I didnt intend to
bash her opinion of it but there is no
need to be so rigid with your opinion
either. My Dr. Too said once in a while
there is nothing wrong with having some
wine. I dont agree with hard
liquor......But wine and a beer in my
books is just fine.
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Melissa_20
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Posted: 07-27-06 12:10pm
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| emma2
wrote: | | yeah now your taking it too
far...How dare you insult me that way?
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I have heard doctors say its ok for a
couple drinksduring pregnancy although I
would not even eant to risk that,.Like I
heart said,i would care about my child
much more than a bottle of beer
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 07-27-06 12:14pm
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| emma2
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | everyone is entitled to
their own opinion, and everyone was raised
in various cultures so we're gonna have
culture clashes here. An occasional
glass of wine or beer is fine according to
some docs, (not something I did when
pregnant but my doc told me I could have
a glass at the x-mas partyif I wanted, I
did not since I figured what's the point
of having 1/2 glass? Lol alcohol in
the first tri is not reccomended (except
for those of us that did not know we were
pregnant and might have drank at the
begining.) that is usually when fas
occurs. |
yeah it is a matter of opinion and the way
youre brought up. And I didnt intend to
bash her opinion of it but there is no
need to be so rigid with your opinion
either. My Dr. Too said once in a
while there is nothing wrong with having
some wine. I dont agree with hard
liquor......But wine and a beer in my
books is just
fine. |
i didn't think I was being rigid with my
opinion... Maybe I read it wrong.
I think the biggest thing is everyone is
different every baby is different. My
best friend doesn't smoke or drink (never
really has) and had probs with both her
pregnancies and both kids have health
probs. I on the other hand drank before
knowing I was pregnant and smoked weed
before knowing and didn't quit cigs till I
was about 4 months along. Trey's a huge
happy healthy baby. We thought he had
asthma and I felt horrible but come to
find out it was mold in my old place and
now that i've moved he has no more
breathing probs at all. It's all a
matter of personal beliefs and values and
culture.
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megums1211
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Posted: 07-27-06 12:17pm
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I think it all depends on how much you
want to risk over a glass of wine.....
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 12:20pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | emma2
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | everyone is entitled to
their own opinion, and everyone was raised
in various cultures so we're gonna have
culture clashes here. An occasional
glass of wine or beer is fine according to
some docs, (not something I did when
pregnant but my doc told me I could have
a glass at the x-mas partyif I wanted, I
did not since I figured what's the point
of having 1/2 glass? Lol alcohol in
the first tri is not reccomended (except
for those of us that did not know we were
pregnant and might have drank at the
begining.) that is usually when fas
occurs. |
yeah it is a matter of opinion and the way
youre brought up. And I didnt intend to
bash her opinion of it but there is no
need to be so rigid with your opinion
either. My Dr. Too said once in a
while there is nothing wrong with having
some wine. I dont agree with hard
liquor......But wine and a beer in my
books is just
fine. |
i didn't think I was being rigid with my
opinion... Maybe I read it wrong.
I think the biggest thing is everyone is
different every baby is different. My
best friend doesn't smoke or drink (never
really has) and had probs with both her
pregnancies and both kids have health
probs. I on the other hand drank before
knowing I was pregnant and smoked weed
before knowing and didn't quit cigs till I
was about 4 months along. Trey's a huge
happy healthy baby. We thought he had
asthma and I felt horrible but come to
find out it was mold in my old place and
now that i've moved he has no more
breathing probs at all. It's all a
matter of personal beliefs and values and
culture. |
no I didnt mean you were rigid jess! I
meant natalie
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 12:23pm
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| melissa_20
wrote: | | emma2
wrote: | | yeah now your taking it too
far...How dare you insult me that way?
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I have heard doctors say its ok for a
couple drinksduring pregnancy although I
would not even eant to risk that,.Like I
heart said,i would care about my child
much more than a bottle of
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its not your business what I take personal
or not melissa...She made a really bad
remark ...And saying that I would think
cocaine is alright is unacceptable ...And
it is taking it too far. You have your
opinion and I have mine and there is no
need to take it further to her level.
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 07-27-06 13:13pm
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"how dare you insult me that way?"
lol! That is all I have to say about
that. I think you take these forums a
little too seroiusly.
"saying that I would think cocaine is
alright is unacceptable"
unacceptable is being a selfish hog and
not putting your baby first, instead
indulging in the "occasional" alcoholic
beverage and promoting it as a "european
thing" that is completely okay. Whatever,
its your retarded baby, not mine. You
deal with the consequences.
(for those of you who take everything way
too literally, I am not saying every child
comes out retarded/slow/ developmentally
delayed, I am saying it is possible and
you are only increasing the chances by
drinking any amount of alcohol)
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Emma2
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Posted: 07-27-06 13:17pm
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Once again your opinion about what comes
first. In my book having a glass of wine
does not in any way harm a the baby...You
have no right to tell me that im not
thinking of my child because that your
rigid opinion ...Open up your mind .Its
actually good for your health. I did
state over and over that once in a while
its fine and not having a bottle a day! I
had one glass in 6 months and my baby is
not in any danger nor am I risking his
life. I am taking it seriously because if
you dont take a discussion seriouly then
why discuss it?
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