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ClashingTaco
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Too All the Pro Life People Here
Posted: 06-18-06 03:05am
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To all the pro life people that decide to
picket outside abortion clinics- I don't
know if you have some kind of mental
disability, but people other than those
having abortions drive past you. When i'm
driving home I don't want to see a picture
of an aborted fetus being waved around.
Some people are sensive about these
things. What if someone had an ectopic
pregnancy and had to abort the fetus to
save her life but was devistated by it
drove by and saw that? How do you think
that would make her feel? And how do you
expect a mother to explain the pictures to
her 5 year old daughter? She can't
understand things like that. What can you
tell her? It's a dead baby? She'll have
nightmares until shes 10. And if you
believe that those fetus' were living then
why are you waving them around on signs
for everyone to see!? If your mother died
from a gun accident would you wave a
picture of her dead with her brains blown
out and her face mangled for everyone to
see just to say that guns are dangerous?
I don't think so! So, if you don't care
about the people around you and you want
to make your point that badly than at
least think about those poor babies who's
decapitated naked bodies you're shamlessly
showing to everyone who walks past you.I
believe in the right to speak your mind
but do it in a tasteful manor. People
other than those having abortions have to
see you too.
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Posted: 06-18-06 07:51am
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I am prolife but I have never picket
outside abortion clinics and I am not
interested to do that but shall I see it I
would give it thumbs up.
Any woman who have had ectopic pregnancies
shall not feel bad because that doesn't
apply to them. Ectopic pregnancies is no
what pro-lifers picke about, it is for the
healthy pregnancies that are terminated.
If I have a child that see the pictures
well I would explain them what it is.
Children see all kinds of things and we
have always have to explain them. I don't
think a child will have nightmares from
that.
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diamond splinter
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Re: Too All the Pro Life People Here
Posted: 06-18-06 10:27am
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| clashingtaco
wrote: | | to all the pro life people
that decide to picket outside abortion
clinics- I don't know if you have some
kind of mental disability, but people
other than those having abortions drive
past you. When i'm driving home I don't
want to see a picture of an aborted fetus
being waved around. Some people are
sensive about these things. What if
someone had an ectopic pregnancy and had
to abort the fetus to save her life but
was devistated by it drove by and saw
that? How do you think that would make
her feel? And how do you expect a
mother to explain the pictures to her 5
year old daughter? She can't understand
things like that. What can you tell
her? It's a dead baby? She'll have
nightmares until shes 10. And if you
believe that those fetus' were living then
why are you waving them around on signs
for everyone to see!? If your mother
died from a gun accident would you wave a
picture of her dead with her brains blown
out and her face mangled for everyone to
see just to say that guns are dangerous?
I don't think so! So, if you don't
care about the people around you and you
want to make your point that badly than at
least think about those poor babies who's
decapitated naked bodies you're shamlessly
showing to everyone who walks past you.I
believe in the right to speak your mind
but do it in a tasteful manor. People
other than those having abortions have to
see you too. |
i am pro life and I couldn't agree more
these picture's should be banned and are
nothing but necraphilic porn
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ClashingTaco
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Posted: 06-18-06 12:42pm
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That's exactly my point lolbahlolbah147.
They don't but they should. If they have
children they probably wouldn't expose
them to those things.
Nightangel73- just because pro lifers
don't think it applies to them doesn't
mean that those women don't. If they feel
bad, maybe they're prolife themself, and
they see a picture of what their baby
might have looked like it's going to upset
them, regardless of why they had the
abortion.
And maybe the kids you know won't have
nightmares, but the kids I know have had
nightmares...Along with some adults. And
maybe your kids are smart because the 5
year olds i've tried to explain this to
can't understand it. Half of them ask
"why would you want to get rid of a baby
if you asked the stork to bring you one?
Why didn't they not ask the stork?" and
the older kids that do get it are freaked
out that that's a decapitated bloody baby,
it's like a horror movie to them.
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Posted: 06-18-06 14:14pm
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Well said .Clashingtaco their are just too
many (and I did not say all) pro-lifer's
that do not understand what some of this
stuff does to a child's mind and a lot of
adult's. This is another thing that
makes pro-choice people more open and
understanding, you do not see us parading
around with pictures and handing out
garbage, we are there to help those who
have had abortions and who do not
understand of what the choices actually
are.
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Posted: 06-18-06 14:45pm
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| clashingtaco
wrote: | that's exactly my point
lolbahlolbah147. They don't but they
should. If they have children they
probably wouldn't expose them to those
things.
Nightangel73- just because pro lifers
don't think it applies to them doesn't
mean that those women don't. If they
feel bad, maybe they're prolife themself,
and they see a picture of what their baby
might have looked like it's going to upset
them, regardless of why they had the
abortion.
And maybe the kids you know won't have
nightmares, but the kids I know have had
nightmares...Along with some adults.
And maybe your kids are smart because the
5 year olds i've tried to explain this to
can't understand it. Half of them ask
"why would you want to get rid of a baby
if you asked the stork to bring you one?
Why didn't they not ask the stork?" and
the older kids that do get it are freaked
out that that's a decapitated bloody baby,
it's like a horror movie to
them. |
taco I think if 5 year old kids ask me I
would just say the thruth to them as I
don't believe in telling lies to children.
So I would probably begin by saying that
stork doesn't exist.
It is like a horror movie to me as well!
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ClashingTaco
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Posted: 06-18-06 21:57pm
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I don't think lying to children is right
all the time but sometimes it's best to
protect them. Children don't understand
everything like adults do, although there
are many adults that don't understand
things. Kids don't always understand what
sex is, they don't understand why people
would do it and kill babies. Some
questions you can't give answers to kids.
And besides all that. Kids don't watch
horror movies if they get nightmares from
them, so why should someone force them to
be exposed to something that is worse that
anything found in a horror movie. I have
cousins that cry after watching the old
frankinstein movies and can't sleep for
weeks, imagine what they'd be like if they
saw a picture of an aborted
fetus...Especially if they knew what it
was! The picture is bad enough but
telling them it's a dead baby that was
sucked out of the mother because she
didn't want it is that much worse!
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Posted: 06-19-06 05:35am
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Well taco you know I can see a picket from
a distance, if I were with my children I
would just avoid walking through where
they are. I am 33 years old and the first
time I ever saw an abortion picket for the
first time in my life was this year. And
they didn't had any pictures.
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Posted: 06-19-06 06:07am
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Nightangel I pray for your children then.
They are children remember. You dont
explain to them about serial killers,
child molesters and rapists. As far as
they are concerned at 5, babies come from
a stork. Like I said they are children
not mini adults. You dont see people
waving about picket-signs with dead raped
women-try explaining that to your 5 year
old. So why is it ok for them to wave
about a picture of a dead feotus? Like
you said "they are people".
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Posted: 06-19-06 06:15am
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wrote: | | nightangel I pray for your
children then. They are children
remember. You dont explain to them about
serial killers, child molesters and
rapists. As far as they are concerned at
5, babies come from a stork. Like I said
they are children not mini adults. You
dont see people waving about picket-signs
with dead raped women-try explaining that
to your 5 year old. So why is it ok for
them to wave about a picture of a dead
feotus? Like you said "they are
people". |
you wouldn't teach your 5 year old about
the badness in the world?
Then it is your children I pity not
nightangels. At 5 year old children do
know that the stork does not bring baby's
and that babies come from mummy not the
stork or at least my lot do what is the
use of confusing children with fairytales
of the stork bringing babies when in a few
years time you will just completly
contradict yourself explaining the real
process?
My children all know about abortion and
the fact that babies are a conseguence of
sex and even that some men/women will not
take no for an answere if this should ever
happen to them they need to know from an
early age that they need to tell someone
and that it is wrong of the said person to
force them into anything my children all
watch the news (this is one of my rules
even my 4 year old) they need to know that
the world is not all flowers and roses and
that there are bad people out there who
have murdered and raped would you not
rather prepare your child for the real
world than have them live the fairy tale
exsistance and go out into the world
unprepared?
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Posted: 06-19-06 06:43am
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You would pity my children. Mmm its
yours you should pity hun, I mean if you
have a little girl, you tell her
cinderella is fake, and just a fairy tale.
Thats called not letting your child have
an imagination. I dont know how america
works with parent/children relationships
but here in england we leave thing like
abortion/murder3rs/child molesters to
older kids not 5 years olds. Sheeeeesh
thats like telling your 5 year old father
christmas isnt real.And the tooth fairy is
you! Dont take me wrong im not
questioning your parent skills. You can
bring you children up however you want,
and I can bring mine up however I want.
Alright
oh and babies are not a conciquence of
sex...Think of a better way to say it.
And just for the record I didnt know about
abortion until I was about...15 years old.
And I believed in father christmas till
I was 8. I played with barbies till I
was 8. I didnt know about murder3rs and
the harsh would till I was in my teens.
In no means was I not ever ready for the
world living in a fantasy world.
Like I said children are children, not
mini adults, leave some things till they
are older, unless u want them to grow up
fast and be out the house with a job at
13. Thats your way hun, not everyones
way. Remember your not the only mother
in the world, you shouldnt question other
people parenting skills. Cause then they
can question yours, which you and I both
know you wont like.
Childrens minds are innocent and they
should be left that way until they are old
enough. And 5 years old is not old
enough. Well not in my views anyway.
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Posted: 06-19-06 08:06am
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| cherry88
wrote: | you would pity my children.
Mmm its yours you should pity hun, I
mean if you have a little girl, you tell
her cinderella is fake, and just a fairy
tale. Thats called not letting your
child have an imagination. I dont know
how america works with parent/children
relationships but here in england we leave
thing like abortion/not a nice
act3rs/child molesters to older kids not 5
years olds. Sheeeeesh thats like
telling your 5 year old father christmas
isnt real.And the tooth fairy is you!
Dont take me wrong im not questioning your
parent skills. You can bring you
children up however you want, and I can
bring mine up however I want. Alright
oh and babies are not a conciquence of
sex...Think of a better way to say it.
And just for the record I didnt know about
abortion until I was about...15 years old.
And I believed in father christmas till
I was 8. I played with barbies till I
was 8. I didnt know about not a nice
act3rs and the harsh would till I was in
my teens. In no means was I not ever
ready for the world living in a fantasy
world.
Like I said children are children, not
mini adults, leave some things till they
are older, unless u want them to grow up
fast and be out the house with a job at
13. Thats your way hun, not everyones
way. Remember your not the only mother
in the world, you shouldnt question other
people parenting skills. Cause then
they can question yours, which you and I
both know you wont like.
Childrens minds are innocent and they
should be left that way until they are old
enough. And 5 years old is not old
enough. Well not in my views
anyway. |
lmao I am in england hun and as for me
questioning other peoples parenting skills
I think you will find that was you
directed at nightangle
also a slip up on my part but I have just
noticed that you have put the act of
serial killer in with abortion are you now
saying abortion is homicide?
Any questions on my parenting skills I
would be only to happy to answer as my
children may be young and innocent but I
have also made sure they have knowledge of
the real world and they know it isn't full
of sunshine and flowers and that they
d.T.N I keep my children safe by
instilling the knowledge that the world is
an evil place to be.
My children have all the imaginitive play
they need btw they just know it is nothing
like the fairytale world in reality and
that they will always need to be on their
guard against the bad in the world now if
that is bad parenting then I stand quilty
as charged but as I have succesfully
raised 2 of my children to adult hood with
no mishaps I am very confident that my
parenting is up to scratch.
Thank you for your concern for my
childerns welfare though I assure you it
is not needed.
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Posted: 06-19-06 08:50am
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| clashingtaco
wrote: | i don't think lying to
children is right all the time but
sometimes it's best to protect them.
Children don't understand everything like
adults do, although there are many adults
that don't understand things. Kids don't
always understand what sex is, they don't
understand why people would do it and kill
babies. Some questions you can't give
answers to kids.
And besides all that. Kids don't watch
horror movies if they get nightmares from
them, so why should someone force them to
be exposed to something that is worse that
anything found in a horror movie. I have
cousins that cry after watching the old
frankinstein movies and can't sleep for
weeks, imagine what they'd be like if they
saw a picture of an aborted
fetus...Especially if they knew what it
was! The picture is bad enough but
telling them it's a dead baby that was
sucked out of the mother because she
didn't want it is that much
worse! |
are not most horror movies if not all
horror movies an 18 rated, so children
should not be watching them, so do you not
think it is a bit hypocritical for you to
be complaining about pictures of aborted
fetus, when it is ok by you for children
to watch horror movies, which are far
worse than any abortion picture.
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Posted: 06-19-06 19:18pm
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Lmao no lolbah I didnt say that. My 3
years old cousin for example it took so
long for me to try and convince him there
was a baby in his mothers 9 month belly
but he kept telling me, yes, then the
stork brings it to the house. Some kids
dont even wanna know. I leave it at that.
And he has a great imagineation. As long
as he knows right from wrong its alright
it my eyes. I thought about the whole
stork thing till I was older than 5, and I
turned out fine.
Diamond I am not questioning your parental
skills, or worries for your childrens
benefit lmao. Theyre your kids. Raise
them how you please. I was just reminding
you some people dont parent the same was
as you. I dont come on here trying to
offend anyone. Unlike some people.
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Posted: 06-20-06 05:39am
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If u wanna put it that was sure. But we
like to keep our childrens minds
innocent.
Say what you please it wont change my
parenting skills.
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Posted: 06-20-06 08:54am
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| cherry88
wrote: | if u wanna put it that was
sure. But we like to keep our childrens
minds innocent.
Say what you please it wont change my
parenting
skills. |
children can still remain innocent without
resorting to lies just because you prepare
your child for the bad things in life as
well as the good things does not mean that
they lose their innocence.
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I Have to Reply to This One
Posted: 06-20-06 16:28pm
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I really dont think that it is appropriate
for a child to see those type of pictures
regardless of the age.. And I do believe
that some children could have nightmares..
And I have to reply to one of the
comments.. There are some things that
your children just dont need to know. You
are not lying to them you just tell them
that you dont think that they are old
enough to understand and when you think
that they are old enough you will eplain
it to your child then. A parent is a
provider and protector and a nourisher..
So there are some things that we just need
to protect our children from and pictures
about abortion in my own opinion is one of
them.. I too think that it should be
banned. There is no reason why a child (
child age 0-13) maybe a little older just
depending on the maturity and etc. In my
opinion do not under no circumstance at
all need to see anything like that..
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Posted: 06-20-06 19:01pm
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| cherry88
wrote: | | nightangel I pray for your
children then. They are children
remember. You dont explain to them about
serial killers, child molesters and
rapists. As far as they are concerned at
5, babies come from a stork. Like I said
they are children not mini adults. You
dont see people waving about picket-signs
with dead raped women-try explaining that
to your 5 year old. So why is it ok for
them to wave about a picture of a dead
feotus? Like you said "they are
people". |
i don't recall my mom ever saying me that
a child come from any stork. When I have
children I will decide what will be the
appropiate answers to those questions but
thank you for the prayer. I am praying
for you as well. As regard to the picket
like I said this situation is very
unlikely to happen. I remember a time
when I was little I slept with parents for
some time because of some horror movie I
saw. I was older maybe like 10 years old.
It was those of antichrist movies, like
owen. But you know for taking my sleep
away it took a lot to see of the movie.
Glancing at a pic for just seconds I don't
see how that could cause nightmares.
Obviously you are not going to stay for a
while in the picket hanging with a 5 year
old kid.
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Posted: 06-20-06 20:59pm
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Yes we lie to our children just like all
of the childrens books. :roll:
also, like I said before not everyone has
the same parenting skills. Just like some
people beat their kids some dont. Some
let their kids watch horror movies, some
dont.
Anyway another pointless dicussion...Tazzy
d really had it all in one.
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Posted: 06-21-06 01:39am
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| cherry88
wrote: |
anyway another pointless
dicussion.... |
why is it pointless, could it be because
you did not get the response you had hoped
for.
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