Emma2
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:47pm
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| allie_18
wrote: | | loulou1980
wrote: | not being offensive allie,
but have you always gone for older
blokes.An old school friend who is 25 has
been with her bloke for 6 years hes 58 and
theyve got a 4 yr ol together.
I mean its not for me and I dont see the
appeal,but as long as you are both happy
and take care of each other ,thats all
that matters |
nope this is the first older guy ive been
with. Guys my age arent ready for
commitment or babies. Hes great with my
son etc etc etc, I think people who
disagree with it just because of a number
need to be more open minded about things.
Theres loads of diff relationships out
there, so what long as they are
happy. |
it's not about being open minded ! Its
about it being plain wrong! He could be
your dad! What can you possible have in
common? What happens in 2 years when you
see a better looking guy decided to dump
him ..What will happen to your child when
hes attached to the old guy? Your baby
is 3 months olds..You should concentrating
on him not older men to support you !
Guys your age arent mature because like
we' have been telling you "17 years olds
are babies!"
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Da_Dez_Bombzzz
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:48pm
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| loulou1980
wrote: | | im on 8 pound an
hour.(keyboards change format so pound
signs dissapeared),i work full-time and we
struggle.Rent is soo expensive in certain
areas. I pay 90 pound a week in just
rent ,not including council tax
etc |
sry I dont know what that means? I dont
know the conversion of the money
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AlliE_18
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:49pm
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| ayamiyaki
wrote: | it's probably just me, but I
don't trust daycares. I watched
.Dateline waaay too many times with those
hidden camera shows, and that has pretty
much scarred me as far as leaving my young
child with someone. If we had family
close by, I would probably be okay leaving
my baby with them while I went to work,
but I would probably spend my entire
working day terrified about my child
*edit* in a daycare setting *edit*. Is
it just me that feels that way, ladies?
:(
good lord, I can't type today.
*sigh* |
i dont trust them either! No way, but you
say something against daycare centres on
this forum everyone gets mad because most
the parents in here stick their kids in
them all day and say its ok because then
they can work, when most have husbands who
work fulltime and they could be
financially secure without 2 incomes but
they wanna be greedy, at the expense of
their kids happiness and care!
Go stay at home moms!!!!
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AlliE_18
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:50pm
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| emma2
wrote: | -it should be illegal
-personality has nothing to do with it
i do believe that if a woman should go to
work if possbile to support their
children. I believe social assistance
should be handed out only for those who
have real problems. You got legs and
arms you go to work! We do not look down
on women on welfare who have real problems
but I do not know why a 17 years old cant
get a job and go to school and make the
most of her young life. There is a point
to getting a real job and working your ass
off like all adults
do! |
because over here I wouldnt be any better
off, benefits are more than welfare you
get in the usa. Im not going to lose the
time I have with my son each day, so I can
'work my a$$ off' as you put it, and have
no more money than I already have on
benefits! Duh it makes no freak'in sense.
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Da_Dez_Bombzzz
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:51pm
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| allie_18
wrote: | | emma2
wrote: | -it should be illegal
-personality has nothing to do with it
i do believe that if a woman should go to
work if possbile to support their
children. I believe social assistance
should be handed out only for those who
have real problems. You got legs and
arms you go to work! We do not look
down on women on welfare who have real
problems but I do not know why a 17 years
old cant get a job and go to school and
make the most of her young life. There
is a point to getting a real job and
working your ass off like all adults
do! |
because over here I wouldnt be any better
off, benefits are more than welfare you
get in the usa. Im not going to lose the
time I have with my son each day, so I can
'work my a$$ off' as you put it, and have
no more money than I already have on
benefits! Duh it makes no freak'in
sense. |
this girl really just doens't get it. Lol
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Da_Dez_Bombzzz
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:52pm
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Ok guys time for a doc appt but not
anywhere related to pregnancy!!! Lol.
I will catch up with this later, I am sure
to remember we are on page 4..
Ta taaaaaa
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AlliE_18
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:52pm
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| ingi
wrote: | | for the record though, for
everyone, I am a stay at home mom and it
is so I can provide a better, more stable
homelife for my family. We do have to go
without sometimes because of it. But
that is our choice. If you choose what
you choose to make life better for your
kids, whether it be on the 'welfare'
system or whatever, then I applaud you for
doing what you think is
best. |
i agree with you, see you cut back on
spending so you can afford to live on your
hubbys income and be a stay at home mom
which is best for the kids. I believe my
son benefits from me being his carer, and
if I had a husband I would want to do the
same as you =)
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:53pm
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I *do* think the father of your child
should contribute, though... Even if his
money goes to the government instead of
directly to you. A stranger down the
street pays money back to the government
to fund these programs... The least your
child's father can do is pay something in
as well. I'm sorry, that's just how I
feel. Not trying to sound rude or
anything. :)
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Kia
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:53pm
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| sandralynn
wrote: | | allie_18
wrote: | | like kia said, its pointless
working and being no better off, so we
dont do that over
here! |
its not pointless.... If u can work,
then do it. I'd feel so much better
about myself knowing that **i** and
providing for my children, no matter what
the cost, no matter how hard I have to
work and not the
state. |
i'm still going to disagree with you on
this one.
If I work my butt off purely to pay for
the day care and still need assistance to
pay for housing etc afterwards and someone
else is raising my child - I am not going
to do it.
I simply refuse to see any point in
working a dead end job to pay another
person to raise my child differently to
how I would do it.
If there was some benefits to working -
like extra money or whatever then sure,
there may be some compromise.
Given the option of work or raise my child
for exactly the same money and i'm gonna
riase my child everytime.
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Emma2
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:55pm
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Kia, how about a dead end job and tryin to
get an education at the same time? Or
going on welfare and getting an education?
Staying home and scratching your ass is
my big problem!
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AlliE_18
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:56pm
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| emma2
wrote: | | allie_18
wrote: | | loulou1980
wrote: | not being offensive allie,
but have you always gone for older
blokes.An old school friend who is 25 has
been with her bloke for 6 years hes 58 and
theyve got a 4 yr ol together.
I mean its not for me and I dont see the
appeal,but as long as you are both happy
and take care of each other ,thats all
that matters |
nope this is the first older guy ive been
with. Guys my age arent ready for
commitment or babies. Hes great with my
son etc etc etc, I think people who
disagree with it just because of a number
need to be more open minded about things.
Theres loads of diff relationships out
there, so what long as they are
happy. |
it's not about being open minded ! Its
about it being plain wrong! He could be
your dad! What can you possible have in
common? What happens in 2 years when you
see a better looking guy decided to dump
him ..What will happen to your child when
hes attached to the old guy? Your baby
is 3 months olds..You should concentrating
on him not older men to support you !
Guys your age arent mature because like
we' have been telling you "17 years olds
are babies!" |
well you can think its wrong, thats upto
you. You could say that about any guy
you're with, 'what happens when you find
someone better' why do you think thats
going to happen? I said we are happy
together. Yeh 17yr old guys arent mature
enough for the responsibility of a baby or
a serious relationship, the ones I know
round here anyway, so that means I
shouldnt be with anyone? Just because he
isnt my age? Thats c.Rap lol
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loulou1980
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:57pm
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| da_dez_bombzzz
wrote: | | loulou1980
wrote: | | im on 8 pound an
hour.(keyboards change format so pound
signs dissapeared),i work full-time and we
struggle.Rent is soo expensive in certain
areas. I pay 90 pound a week in just
rent ,not including council tax
etc |
sry I dont know what that means? I dont
know the conversion of the
money |
8 pounds=$14.73 us dollars
90 pounds=$165.74 us dollars
hth :d
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:58pm
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| sandralynn
wrote: | lol I love being a stay at
home mom.. Somtimes I feel like I dont
contribute enough, but then .Rob puts me
in my place by reminding me that I have
the hardest job of all... Beign a mom.
In florida... Daycares have issues..
Atleast twice a summer a child gets left
in a daycare van and dies due to the heat.
(one guy forgot to drop a kid off...
Went home, took a nap, and got ready for
his second job. Came outside and saw the
kid dead in the van)
another time, there was a 17 year old girl
driving a daycare bus and flipped it,
sending several children spilling out onto
the highway. Thankfully none of them got
hurt. |
*shiver* that is just flat-out scary.
I've also seen shows with in-home nannies
literally slapping small children around
the head and throwing them into couch
cusions. That is just... I would be put
in jail if anyone so much a raised a hand
to my child. If I picked my daughter up
from daycare and she had a mark on her
(even if it was caused by another child) I
really think they would end up calling the
police on me, because I would lose my mind
in that place.
I could trust a close family member, but
we don't have family close by that's able
to watch a baby. All of our family
works/goes to school as well, so they're
in the same situation time-wise as we are.
Our only two solutions would be to put
.Alyvia in daycare at 6 weeks old while I
went back to work... The cost of daycare
would completely dissolve my paycheck, we
would still only have the use of one
paycheck, and my baby would be at the
mercy of whatever psycho the daycare
employs... Or, I stay home with the baby
while my husband works, and I work
parttime during his off hours. This will
be a financial struggle for us, no doubt,
but it's in the best interests of our
family.
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AlliE_18
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Location: uk
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:59pm
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| ayamiyaki
wrote: | | i *do* think the father of
your child should contribute, though...
Even if his money goes to the government
instead of directly to you. A stranger
down the street pays money back to the
government to fund these programs... The
least your child's father can do is pay
something in as well. I'm sorry, that's
just how I feel. Not trying to sound
rude or anything.
:) |
yeh I think they should in most cases, not
all. My sons father is in jail, and ive
decided its better for him not to have any
contact.
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loulou1980
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:59pm
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| emma2
wrote: | | kia, how about a dead end
job and tryin to get an education at the
same time? Or going on welfare and
getting an education? Staying home and
scratching your ass is my big
problem! |
thats whats I took advantage of,when I was
on benefits in between jobs
now got pc qualifications coming out of my
ears lol
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Emma2
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Posted: 06-21-06 12:59pm
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| allie_18
wrote: | | emma2
wrote: | | allie_18
wrote: | | loulou1980
wrote: | not being offensive allie,
but have you always gone for older
blokes.An old school friend who is 25 has
been with her bloke for 6 years hes 58 and
theyve got a 4 yr ol together.
I mean its not for me and I dont see the
appeal,but as long as you are both happy
and take care of each other ,thats all
that matters |
nope this is the first older guy ive been
with. Guys my age arent ready for
commitment or babies. Hes great with
my son etc etc etc, I think people who
disagree with it just because of a number
need to be more open minded about things.
Theres loads of diff relationships out
there, so what long as they are
happy. |
it's not about being open minded ! Its
about it being plain wrong! He could be
your dad! What can you possible have in
common? What happens in 2 years when
you see a better looking guy decided to
dump him ..What will happen to your child
when hes attached to the old guy?
Your baby is 3 months olds..You should
concentrating on him not older men to
support you ! Guys your age arent
mature because like we' have been telling
you "17 years olds are
babies!" |
well you can think its wrong, thats upto
you. You could say that about any guy
you're with, 'what happens when you find
someone better' why do you think thats
going to happen? I said we are happy
together. Yeh 17yr old guys arent mature
enough for the responsibility of a baby or
a serious relationship, the ones I know
round here anyway, so that means I
shouldnt be with anyone? Just because he
isnt my age? Thats c.Rap
lol |
who cares what you do and who you do it
with thats not the point. Stop tryin to
justify that there isnt anythign wrong
with the age difference and that your all
mature because the fact remians your dont
know a thing about life. And I will wager
you $1000 thats in less than 2 years youll
be with another....Oh boy you have lots to
learn allie!
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Emma2
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Posted: 06-21-06 13:01pm
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| loulou1980
wrote: | | emma2
wrote: | | kia, how about a dead end
job and tryin to get an education at the
same time? Or going on welfare and
getting an education? Staying home and
scratching your ass is my big
problem! |
thats whats I took advantage of,when I was
on benefits in between jobs
now got pc qualifications coming out of my
ears lol |
exactly! And thats very honorable! I
have no respect for people on welfare who
dont even try to better themselves!
Online on a pc chatting away and
justifying your self and complaining and
playing games online ...Why not take the
time and get an online education while
your baby sleeps?
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AlliE_18
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Posted: 06-21-06 13:02pm
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| sandralynn
wrote: | | well in a case like that, I
totally understand. Ive made the point
several times... If I have to work 40
hours a week, bring home 200$ and then
turn around and give it to a daycare, what
the hells the
point? |
exactly!
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 06-21-06 13:02pm
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Oh good lord, i'm sitting here reading
this post and lost complete track of time!
I have a doc appointment in 45 minutes!
Have a good afternoon, ladies :) i'm off
to "purtify" myself for the doc! *hugs*
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AlliE_18
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Posted: 06-21-06 13:04pm
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| emma2
wrote: | | kia, how about a dead end
job and tryin to get an education at the
same time? Or going on welfare and
getting an education? Staying home and
scratching your ass is my big
problem! |
staying at home your raising a child not
sat on your a$$, its a 24/7 job, more work
than working in a store or whatever. Im
not losing the time I have with my son for
no good reason.
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