Its been about 2 1/2 months since I
started my diet, and I still feel very
very fatigued and unable to think clearly
alot of times. My panic attacks and just
general jitteryniss have gone away ,but im
in a state of depression right now. My
diet right now consists of about 8-10
meals in order, starting with:
1 boneless skinless chicken tender
1 fish oil tablet followed by 1tbsp
olive oil
a few nuts "brazil, soy, almonds,
pecans"
1/2 slice of whole grain no sugar added
bread or
some organic brown rice
I havent been adding lettuce lately ,but
was doing that and I tried squash for
carbs for about 1 1/2 months before
switching to brown rice. I just dunno ive
read a few posts claiming it can take 6
months to a yr in which case im right on
track, but ive seen posts stating 2 months
or so recovery so just trying to make sure
im ok. Also ive added in pies lately to
my eating pattern only at night, I make an
apple pie with: frozen apples, stevia for
sweetner, cinnamon, little butter, and pie
crust. The only thing im particulary
worried about is the pie crust, it has no
sugar in it and only a few carbs. Eating
a piece of pie doesnt effect me as long as
I eat a meal right after.
Another thing to note is I tend to feel
sick anywhere from 30-1 hour after eating
and then I eat some nuts or if its close
to the 1 1/2 to 2 hour mark I eat a meal.
I feel really odd though even though I
have no energy I feel halfway alive for
once in my life, its like im just awaking.
Alot of my life has just slipped by and
im picking up from my childhood when I
first got hypoglycemia. Its really
strange and confusing and noone really
gets it. I dunno, anyways im starting to
feel sick better go eat...
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wdiguy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 78 Location: fl
Posted: 07-29-06 22:14pm
Blackdog first off dont worry you will
feel better but everyone is different.
Second you might wanna try to stay away
from any sweetner. Thats what i'm doing,
the littlest things can throw you out of
whack. Did you try stans diet?
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Stan
Moderator
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1617 Location: ,
Posted: 07-30-06 10:18am
Your diet is way to high in carbohydrates
and includes foods you should not be
eating whatsoever, especially at the
beginning. Here's what's wrong:
1. Avoid all bread at first, doesn't
matter what kind.
2. Some people actually do okay with a
little brown rice, I say avoid it at first
to eliminate all complex carbohydrates
other than vegetables, but you can try
it.
3. Pie? You're kidding I hope. No
pie. That crust will kill you unless
you're getting an organic, whole grain
crust, which I doubt you are, but even
then it's not what you should be eating.
Pie must absolutely, without a doubt be
totally avoided for a long, long time.
I think steevia is okay if you want to try
a natural sweetener that won't raise blood
sugar (i think it's natural, make sure to
check) but i've heard xylitol is the best
for that. Eating that pie isn't
affecting you at first, but I bet it's
causing you problems days down the road,
trust me. Unless you eat straight
sugar, you will usually not notice any
symptoms for a day or so.
4. Bottom line, too many carbohydrates
for the day, you should be getting no more
than 100g and no less than 60g.
5. The people you're reading that are
getting good results in two months or less
are on low carbohydrate diets, which in my
opinion is the only way to go,
carbohydrates are added back in slowly
after you get better. Until that time,
they must be watched carefully otherwise
you'll never get better. I personally
don't know anyone, unless they have a more
minor form of hypoglycemia or fasting
hypoglycemia, who can eat a higher
carbohydrate diet with lower protein and
fat and get better. Everyone on here has
tried that diet and failed, even me. The
body has to learn to slowly tolerate a
carbohydrate level that you set, very,
very slowly.
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mendigoodwin
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 34
Posted: 07-30-06 11:09am
Hi blackdog... I have followed stan's
diet for 9 weeks and feel better than I
have in years. I actually follow the
diet. I made one bad choice and paid for
it for three days. I had to drive my son
on a 3 hour trip one evening after work.
I ate right before I left knowing I would
be home in about 3 hours. I'm an every
three hour eater. I got so very tired
only half way through the trip and worried
that I would fall asleep driving that I
drank unsweetened tea to get the caffeine
(which I had not had in 8.5 weeks). It
definitely did the trick. I was wide
awake and boy did it feel good. However,
the next couple of days I was an emotional
wreck. I felt disconnected from
everyone. I was not part of life, just
going through the motions.
That is from one controlled bad choice.
It took 3 days to get start feeling well.
My suggestion would be to find stan's diet
in this forum and give it a try for a
couple of months and see if improvement
does not start to show itself. If you
really care about yourself and want to
feel better you'll try it. It can't
hurt because you already feel like crap.
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wdiguy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 78 Location: fl
Posted: 07-30-06 17:41pm
Yeah mendi its takes me a couple of days
to feel better when I make a mistake. I
know when I used to drink beer starting
the diet it would take about a week to get
back to normal. Its crazy how it takes
that much out of you for that long.
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Blackdog
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 31
Posted: 07-30-06 21:31pm
Stan you say im eating too many carbs, ill
cut out the whole grain bread and the pie
and see how just brown rice makes me feel.
I was on your diet for about 1 1/2 months
but only changed the carbs to brown rice
and grain bread instead of squash. Your
diet is the 1tbsp of organic olive oil, a
good slice of chicken for protein, a few
nuts, squash, and romaine lettuce? If not
where can I find it? But ive only been
eating 1/2 a piece of bread(which ill be
cutting out) or 3 spoonfuls of rice for
carbs. Should I lower it to 1 spoonful of
rice? I tried eating squash raw but I
just cant do it, I mean its horrible raw,
is cooked ok? Im bummed out about the pie
I was really hoping the crust wasnt bad,
maybe later I can use the wheat pie crust.
Also when should I try and incorporate
berries(i think you said they were ok at
somepoint) right now they make me pretty
sick feeling.
And that comment about being disconnected
from reality and just socially weird hit
how I feel right on the money. Its like I
cant go out and feel normal sometimes, im
fine at my house with my roomate but going
out in crowded areas I just dont like it
and feel lost. Is this a common symptom?
Cause I never used to be like this(along
time ago) and miss talking to people and
just being normal..... Alot...
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Stan
Moderator
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1617 Location: ,
Posted: 07-31-06 08:27am
My diet is more than that, make sure to
read through it. You shouldn't be eating
the same thing every day like that, you're
body will get used to it and you won't get
as much out of it. The thread about it
is on this forum, you can't miss it.
First off, you didn't stay on the diet
long enough before adding those things so
you set yourself back. Whatever you
decide to do with rice, just make sure
your total carbohydrate intake for the
entire day does not exceed 100g. Add up
everything! You'll be surprised how much
there is and how little it takes to get to
that amount. Squash should be cooked, I
can't believe you even tried it raw to
begin with, ugh!!! The berries are
making you sick most likely because you're
eating not getting organic (strawberries
and raspberries are two of the most
saturated foods in terms of pesticide) or
because of everything else you're doing.
It takes time for the body to adjust.
Berries are fine, if you follow what I say
to do when to eat them, you should only be
having small portions of fruit at any
time, not more than like 1/4 of a serving
per meal. The symptom you explain is
common, which is unfortunate. Part of it
is just the simple fear of having a major
sugar crash while not in the comfort of
your home (where everything is at hand and
safe), so that's totally normal. I'm not
sure why it's such a common symptom, I
have this theory that the brain actually
has a "sense of reality" that people
aren't aware of to help you function in
social situations, making you more able to
adhere to what you have to do without
paying attention, if that makes any sense
to anyone. For some reason, this section
of the brain tends to shut down in
hypoglycemics. Not sure why, but I guess
the brain thinks it's not very important.
Stupid brain.
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Blackdog
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 31
Posted: 07-31-06 10:10am
Ok, ill try and find some organic berries.
Ill prolly need to add the lettuce back
into my diet as well. The thing bout
eating all the different meats is, theyre
all pretty expensive and I just aint got
that kinda cash so ive been eating just
chicken, ill try and get some variety
though if its gonna help. What about
eating sausage and beef are those bad?
Anywho im off the pie and bread im feeling
pretty good today since ive started eating
the rice, maybe ill revert back to squash
to see if it makes me feel even better
after about a week or so. And good thing
I can cook the squash I read somewhere its
best to eat it raw, but I just cooked it
anyways so good good. Im bout to go live
with my mom to recover(.........) cause
working 12 hours a day sanding walls and
preparing houses im sure isnt helping any.
Thx stan ive been reading up on your
info for awhile but hotmail doesnt except
this sites emails for some reason so I
switched to yahoo.
Oh and by the way is it just me or does it
seem hard to talk sometimes? Like ill
feel good then ill start talking alot cuz
I feel like I can then ill start feeling
nautious. Not sure if thats normal. I
also get a feeling in my stomach when im
bout to get sick and thats when I eat
should I try and eat sooner than this?
Sometimes its a short while after
eating(which I think is because my diet
sucked) but ill try and hold out for the 1
1/2 - 2 hour mark.
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Stan
Moderator
Joined: 01 Jan 2006 Posts: 1617 Location: ,
Posted: 07-31-06 10:37am
If they're too expensive you can try
nonorganic, blueberries and blackberries
are the best because they don't use as
much pesticides on them as strawberries
and raspberries, which are the worst of
all. You may find luck buying frozen
berries too, but make sure they don't have
added sugar. Another thing you could try
is fish if you want. I avoid it because
of mercury warnings, but eating it for a
time is not really a problem, just make
sure to eat more things like flounder and
tilapia instead of swordfish, which has
more mercury. Salmon is good too, but
make sure it's wild caught, do not buy
atlantic salmon or any fish that's farm
raised! They're fed body parts of fish
and other crap. I avoid pork only
because of this diet called the maker's
diet, but you don't have to if you don't
want to. It's just a recommendation.
Check to make sure the sausage has no
added sugar or too many artificial
ingredients. How about turkey? You
could get a big turkey and cook it, and it
will last you several days, you can freeze
the extras and thaw them when you eat them
again. The only thing I strongly
recommend amongst everything is that if
you can do it, for the love of god onlyl
get naturally raise meat, it doens't have
to be organic (which is even more
expensive), but try as much as possible to
get naturally raised (not antibiotics or
hormones and sometimes free range). I
myself don't get organic frozen beans or
anything, but I do get organic lettuce
because they cover that shiat with tons of
pesticides and it makes me sick. The
talking thing is normal as well.
Hypoglycemics will sometimes get confused
and feel like their thoughts aren't
working properly. I know some russian so
sometimes, when I was bad enough, I would
mix phrases and words into my english.
It's also common to feel a little on edge
and talk a lot in the process. Another
symptom, similar to mania but not as
extreme. The sick feeling is just
another symptom as well, though a bad diet
will make it worse. As you go on it
should get better. I still get this from
time to time.
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tygrbabi
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 126
Posted: 07-31-06 10:44am
Blackdog, I make stewed "fruit" when I
want a change. It's like making a pie
filling without the pie. But I don't use
any sweetner.
Recently, i've made my own fruit granite.
It's like italian ice but all fruit and
no sugar. I put fruit in a blender,
liquify it and freeze it. Right now, i'm
on the mixed berries craze.
I didn't know we can use stevia. I've
conflicting things about it. Any
comments on it?
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