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Posted: 08-14-06 13:08pm
nataliachick7
wrote:
diamondsz
wrote:
i never told people to drink
that is a decision people make on their
own, anything can be harmful to a
pregnancy but i'm not anal as some are im
more laid back but I guess it was how I
raised.
If I wanted to make sense I would but im
not getting paid to do it so f*ck it....
The fact that you stated anyone who drinks
will have a retarted child is disgusting,
first off you are being prejudist and
second you are not a medical professional.
All I state is that your validations
are not true I have two healthy/intellgent
kids and if something happens to my son it
is a genetic disorder that he will inherit
from his grandfather called "muscular
dystrophy."
i have done multiple debates for school
projects on alcohol during pregnancy and
85% of the studies done were woman who had
3+ drinks a day not 2-3 drinks during the
whole pregnancy. 95% of woman who had
a drink-2 drinks during the pregnancy
never had children with any birth defect
and I have the studies to prove it. I
never post it cause I dont want people to
think its okay to drink but people like me
of european background are born and raised
in the glass of wine thing occaisionally
and that is why I did the study.
I have already posted links on sites that
contradict you and I have alot more from
actual brewery, the reason they dont want
pregnant woman to drink is because they
over do it. I dont tell you everything
during my life I dont like you parenting
style but as a parent its our choice on
how we raise our children.
Alcohol in moderation is healthy and has
had multiple studies that prove a drink
every so often actually improves one
health.
I know whats right and wrong, I dont break
the rules, I smoke outside(dont even smoke
in the car unless the kids arent there) I
will never promote smoking and will be
quitting after I take my weight off and
get back into a healthy lifestyle.
I dont eat at fastfood and will only allow
my kids to eat there on special occaisons,
I never hit or abuse my kids and yes I
love them to death does not make me better
or worse then you.
So stop talking down to people its
sickening
oh before you call me retarted again
remeber who has the better job and im
furthering my education while being a
parent/wife/sister and friend so I can
still strut my stuff with confidence.
The only reason I am where I am is because
I am myself I dont read textbooks but I
follow my heart/instincts plus im blunt as
all hell.
lol! I never said everyone that drinks
will have a retarded kid, I said you are
taking a chance.
I am not going to read your whole post
because its not worth my time but I just
read the last paragraph...You have a
better job? Haha! And what makes you
think im not furthering my education?
You dont read textbooks? what? Then
how do you "further your education?"
by "following your heart" omg lol too
funny! That just made my
day-thanks!
let me remind you....You said my baby is
retarded because I had one glass of wine
during my pregnancy..
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Melissa_20
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 08-14-06 13:18pm
emma2
wrote:
let me remind you....You
said my baby is retarded because I had one
glass of wine during my
pregnancy..
"unacceptable is being a selfish hog and
not putting your baby first, instead
indulging in the "occasional" alcoholic
beverage and promoting it as a "european
thing" that is completely okay.
Whatever, its your retarded baby, not
mine. You deal with the consequences.
(for those of you who take everything way
too literally, I am not saying every child
comes out retarded/slow/ developmentally
delayed, I am saying it is possible and
you are only increasing the chances by
drinking any amount of alcohol)"
i only said the retarded thing because I
was trying to stress that it is possible.
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Emma2
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Posted: 08-14-06 13:32pm
Whatever, its your retarded baby, not
mine.<---- and this means what to you?
To me its saying that my child is already
retarded ! Are you kididng me?
Oh and you dont have to stress anything
ebcause you are not the only who knows
that drinking and smoking is not good for
anyone let alone a baby...But thats
excessive drinking dear..You make it sound
like one sip is the worst thing that
someone can ever do..When in fact, my own
Dr. Doesnt seem to agree with you at
all...Thats where your text book sh%t
needs to be reconsidered...
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 08-14-06 13:52pm
You can have retarded (i call them special
children) if you don't drink or don't take
drugs, sometimes things happen that we
have no control over. I have had a
couple of small glasses ofwine and my kids
are far from being retarded or special and
they are almost 30 years young, they never
had fetal alchohol syndrome and I did not
do drugs, I am not nor have I ever been an
alchoholic, I don't even drink now. The
meds I take are the meds that are needed
with my medical situations. After
watching my step-mother being a hateful
alchohoholic I don't feel that I could
ever be one and I have worked around them
also, they can get pretty nasty. I have
also worked around junkie or druggie
babies, that is really sad, especially
when the mother gets up and walks away as
all she cares about is getting her next
fix and we have let her know that we can
help her and that we will do all that we
can to help her baby but their are others
that stay and get the help that they need,
sometimes they have to come back for
another time or two but as long as the
baby is being taken care of is the main
thing to me!
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grniys
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 15 Location: NC
Posted: 08-15-06 01:36am
I just had to jump in the discussion.
If you drink your child will not 100% for
sure have problems. However, any drinking
can effect your pregnancy. Will one glass
of alcohol cause fas? Probably not. But
there's still a chance it could harm the
baby.
I am not- let me repeat, lest people say
i'm calling their children retarded-
saying that your baby will have problems
due to this. I am saying that it
increases the chances. Yes, ever one
little glass does increase the risk.
while it is true that a glass of wine on
occasion is healthy for an adult, that is
not true for a fetus!
Personally, I won't drink right now. I am
ttc, and I don't want to get pregnant and
unknowingly cause harm to the baby. I
have taken multiple biology classes in
college, and yes, I do learn mostly from
my text books, but it's important
information. I have a younger cousin who
was born with fas. It's not pretty. I've
seen first hand what this does to a baby,
and I can not imagine why any mother want
to take the chance of causing harm to her
child for a drink.
For anyone who stands by the argument of
women in the past drinking and having
healthy babies, that isn't a valid
argument. Your mother/ grandmother/
aunts, etc may have drank and healthy
babies. But it still doesn't make it
okay. As we move forward in time and
science and technology we are supposed to
take what we learn and improve. Just
because people did something in the past
doesn't make it okay. If that were the
case, the world would be in sad, sad
shape.
Imo, there is no excuse for a woman who
knows she's pregnant to drink alcohol. At
all. I'm not saying that your child will
have any arbd, but why risk it?
Anyway, that's just my opinion. I'm not
attacking anyone for drinking during
pregnancy, calling anyone's child
retarded, or anything like that. I'm
simply stating my opinion and backing it
up with facts.
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Emma2
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Posted: 08-15-06 08:12am
grniys
wrote:
i just had to jump in the
discussion.
If you drink your child will not 100% for
sure have problems. However, any
drinking can effect your pregnancy. Will
one glass of alcohol cause fas? Probably
not. But there's still a chance it could
harm the baby.
I am not- let me repeat, lest people say
i'm calling their children retarded-
saying that your baby will have problems
due to this. I am saying that it
increases the chances. Yes, ever one
little glass does increase the risk.
while it is true that a glass of wine on
occasion is healthy for an adult, that is
not true for a fetus!
Personally, I won't drink right now. I
am ttc, and I don't want to get pregnant
and unknowingly cause harm to the baby.
I have taken multiple biology classes in
college, and yes, I do learn mostly from
my text books, but it's important
information. I have a younger cousin who
was born with fas. It's not pretty.
I've seen first hand what this does to a
baby, and I can not imagine why any mother
want to take the chance of causing harm to
her child for a drink.
For anyone who stands by the argument of
women in the past drinking and having
healthy babies, that isn't a valid
argument. Your mother/ grandmother/
aunts, etc may have drank and healthy
babies. But it still doesn't make it
okay. As we move forward in time and
science and technology we are supposed to
take what we learn and improve. Just
because people did something in the past
doesn't make it okay. If that were the
case, the world would be in sad, sad
shape.
Imo, there is no excuse for a woman who
knows she's pregnant to drink alcohol.
At all. I'm not saying that your child
will have any arbd, but why risk it?
Anyway, that's just my opinion. I'm not
attacking anyone for drinking during
pregnancy, calling anyone's child
retarded, or anything like that. I'm
simply stating my opinion and backing it
up with
facts.