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Stan's Diet (complete, Not Confusing, Phase 1: the Purge) Posted: 08-18-06 09:03am


Here's for all the new users and everyone who has had to trudge through the mess of the old thread. This is my complete diet, the first phase, which we'll call the purge because you're going to hardcore train your body to get used to a different type of diet. First, though, here is the list of foods to avoid at the start of treatment (refer to diet for when to start adding things back in). I'm currently at the add-in process in the diet, so my new tricks will be added for those who are looking to progress even further after time. Anyway, here are the foods to avoid when starting out, you may need to ween off of them depending on how bad you were eating, cold turkey could cause some serious pain. You will notice I say to avoid milk products. This may surprise some people but I recommend it for best results. If you really, really want to try some you can, but I only suggest sheep's milk not cow or goat. Still, it is best to avoid it and use the calcium tablets for now. Alcohol (all varieties, no exceptions) amaranth artificial sweetener (all varieties) aspartame bananas beans (all varieties) beets black beans black-eyed peas bread (all varieties) buckwheat butter butter beans cheese (all varieties) carrots cashews (all products) cayenne pepper (any products containing or by itself) celery (not bad really, just hardly any nutrional value) chard chick peas chlorinated water cinnamon (any products containing or by itself) coffee (if containing caffeine) corn (all products) corn syrup crackers (all varieties) cumin (any products containing or by itself) dextrose eggs (organic/cage-free is fine, if not, don't eat it!) fish (in large quantities to avoid mercury, avoid farm raised entirely) fruit (1-2 servings is okay per day as long as it's an allowed type) ginger (ground may be okay, raw seems to cause problems in some) grapes high-fructose corn syrup honey iodized salt juice (all varieties) kale kefir kidney beans lentils (all varieties) lima beans meat (if not organic, organic is fine) milk (all varieties) milk products millet molasses navy beans nut butter (all varieties) nuts (only if cooked, if eaten raw/organic, perfectly fine, see diet) oats onions peanuts (all products) peas pinto beans pork (all products) potatoes powdered sugar processed food (everything you can think, even some organics are) quinoa radishes rice rutabegas saccahrin shellfish (all kinds) soda soy (all products) sucralose sucrose sugar sweet potatoes tea (if containing caffeine) tomatoes (in large quantities, 1-2 a day is fine) tumeric (any product containing or by itself) turbinado whole grains (all varieties) yams yogurt Last edited by Stan on 08-19-06 10:37am; edited 3 times in total

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Posted: 08-18-06 09:40am


Here then, is the diet with all rules and such. This must be followed as stated for at least six months if you want it to work. Some variation is acceptible, but not much and i'll mention all of this below. Number one rule is first keep carbohydrates within 100g a day and no less than 60g. Measure out your portions and calculate before you begin! 1. Each day, upon getting up (always try to eat at the same times every day to have a routine going), take one tablespoon of brewer's yeast (lewis labs makes the best in my opinion, try the "buds"). 2. Wait one half hour. Then, eat one tablespoon of olive oil (for women or men, especially if less active, half should be just fine). Follow this with 1/2 a serving of nuts. This is usually around 1/8 of a cup, but it depends on the type of nut. Sometimes it may be 1/4 of a cup. As long as the nut is not listed above to be avoided, it's fine. After the nuts, eat two eggs prepared how you like. You could even make an omellete with them and mix in some green pepper (not too much though). It's best to have the egg fried sunny-side-up using high heat spray canola oil. This can be found at most health food stores but rarely at a supermarket. Frying this way keeps the protein of the yolk more intact and more usable for the body, but eat the eggs as you like. After the eggs have 1/2 of a medium sized avocado (usually about the size of your fist is a medium one). Then, follow with a small serving of fruit. Small means small! This can either be a small amount of berries (around 16 blueberries or 10 blackberries depending on their size), one orange slice or one apple slice. Keeping that in mind you can try any fruit you like as long as it's not on the list up there. Portion size for fruit at breakfast is no larger than a golf ball. Drink some water after this (up to one liter) and then take a 1/3 of a good, natural vitamin with good balance. These can only (!!!!) be found at health food stores, not supermarkets. It needs to contain nothing listed above because many do. Also, to test your vitamin to see if it's really good, put a penny in a glass of water, wait about half an hour and put a vitamin in the water. If it doesn't break down quickly or doesn't do anything, it's worthless. Most popular vitamins are like this and simply go straight through the digestive system with little benefit. I say to have 1/3 because, typically, the vitamins you get a health food stores are overloaded with vitamins and you don't need as many as are contained in a tablet, some even say to take three a day. 1/3 should be enough. 3. That's breakfast. For the rest of the day, before the last meal, eat every two hours. No longer than this unless you find that this is too frequent. If so, equal out portions to match what you'd be eating if you ate every two hours based on what i'm about to say. You should be eating no longer than three hours apart and not as often as one hour apart. Do not eat between meals! The goal of the first part of this diet is to calm down the pancreas before you add foods back into your program. It needs to learn to calm down. Usually, this takes at least six months to feel totally better, but some may find it done in a few weeks while others may take up to a year. If you're going longer than a year with little improvement, it's time to rethink your diet (perhaps opting for high carbohydrates instead) or go for further testing to make sure something else isn't wrong. The longest i've heard is 13 months until recovered, but the individual noticed changes the whole way through. No change after a year is not good. 4. For the other meals during the day, except the last one, do the following. First, have your serving of olive oil and then the same serving size of nuts. Follow this with a portion of protein that you can wrap in either romaine or green leaf lettuce. Organic is always preferred for anything you eat, but if you can't find any, work with what you have. The protein portion should be slightly more for the first 2-3 meals following breakfast since your body needs more food earlier in the day. This would equal out to about 1/3 of a chicken breast, so calculate based on that. Later in the day you can get away with eating only 1/4 or even 1/6 of a chicken breast but it's best to at first eat a little more for the first few meals. Any meat is allowed as long as you follow the list above. Again, to repeat, organic is best, but if you can't find it eat what you have. A slice of tomato or some spices (as long as not above) can be added to the protein wrap so it feels like a sandwich or burrito. Then eat a serving size of any vegetable not listed above. I like green beans, zucchini and eggplant best, but you can have whatever you like. After you eat this, have one half of the fruit serving you ate for breakfast. If 10 blueberries, eat 5, if 1 apple slice eat 1/2. Don't eat more fruit than that. Then drink some water (up to one liter). Later in the day, have a calcium/magensium/zinc tablet cut in half. This will make sure you're getting enough calcium since this is low at the beginning of the diet until you can add sheep's milk products back in. 5. For the final meal, you're essentially going to eat the same thing, with some changes. First, stretch out this meal to be 2 1/2 hours away from the last. 1/2 hour before eating the meal, have the brewer's yeast again (one tablespoon). After waiting a half of an hour eat the olive oil, nuts, and then two eggs served how you like (i prefer hard boiled). Then, eat your vegetables (including the lettuce), drink your water and go to sleep no longer than 1 hour after eating last. If you're up a bit longer, have another egg or some nuts. 6. It's best to vary what you're eating every four days. Thus, if you have brazil nuts and salmon on one day, it's best not to eat this for at least 4 days. This way, you can see if certain foods cause a reaction by keeping track of how you feel using a journal or calendar. I prefer to use a calendar, writing down a letter for the food I eat and then a symbol. I use a circle to indicate an okay day neither good nor bad, a cirlce with a minus in it to indicate a day that was mostly bad but not terrible, a minus to indicate a horrible day, a circle with a plus to indicate a good day with some minor problems and a plus to indicate a great day. This is useful for tracking progress and also to see if any foods are giving you problems. 7. All milk products are best avoided at first, but you may try to use anything made from sheep's milk, though I only recommend yogurt to start, in small amounts. However, it is best to wait to add this. 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Posted: 08-18-06 20:24pm


Thanks heaps man, it sure looks like you put alot of time and effort into this. Im sure all the new members will appreciate it, and the other members will be using it to make sure their still on track. One thing with eating 4 eggs a day, when I gave up milk for 2 weeks I had 3-4eggs a day for breakfast and it seemed I started putting weight on. Turns out my sweating is caused by anxiety I think, not the milk.

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Posted: 08-18-06 20:30pm


Are you experiencing other symptoms though? If not that doesn't make any sense and if you're having anxiety you need to plug the diet more to get it to go away.

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Posted: 08-18-06 21:25pm


Hmm I sometimes experience other symptoms but not often. Sometimes if I havnt eaten for a while I start to feel a bit dizzy and that. I think I need to go back onto a hardcore strict diet and make this anxiety go away. The sweating only occurs when im not in comfortable surroundings, thats why some days I dont get it at all.

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Posted: 08-19-06 16:27pm


Wouldnt milk and yogurt be absolutely out of the question considering the large amount of sugar in them? Also stan ive been feeling pretty tired, ive been on the diet for about 3 months now. Also just before im bout to eat every 2 hours I can feel the sickness coming on do u get this too?

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Posted: 08-19-06 17:33pm


Only if you're eating yogurt from cow or goat's milk. Sheep's milk, per cup, has only 7g of carbohydrates and 3g of sugar, as opposed to cow's 13g of both sugar and carbohydrates. Sheep's milk is much different. I don't feel that way, no. My drops would occur an hour after eating, but around that time make sense. Are you eating my diet exactly or doing something else? If the latter, please list what you're eating.

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Posted: 08-21-06 13:13pm


Ya, its about an hour or 1/2 when I start to feel it coming on. Im following your diet to the t. I feel raindrops on my head. Also, I have to drink unsweetened soy milk, in some products even with 1g of sugar I can feel weird.

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Posted: 08-21-06 13:27pm


Soy milk isn't the best idea, our bodies are not geared to digest large amounts of soy and have to actually take nutrients and minerals from your body to digest it. Not worth it. Better to try yogurt if you want (only sheep) or just take a calcium tablet for the time being. You may be eating too much for your activity level, if you want to test that hold back on the olive oil a little bit.

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Posted: 08-28-06 12:13pm


Ive held back on the olive oil and im feeling a little better. Although I am pretty active I swim or run everyday and play games outside my house. I dunno I just am tired.

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Posted: 08-28-06 18:48pm


How constant is the tiredness?

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Posted: 08-29-06 13:10pm


Everyday for the past couple weeks or so. Its usually right after I eat. Its pretty much nonstop except at night. I notice you put pork as a bad thing, isnt it fine just not the healthiest thing for you? Also what about straight organic from my back yard green beans? They have low carbs and I cant see whats wrong with them. Also I have just got calcium-magnesium-zinc tablets that check out fine except for calcium(as calcium carbonate and calcium gluconate?) dunno what that is but it hasnt made me feel weird so. Thx buddy!

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Posted: 08-29-06 17:30pm


The beans are certainly fine! So are the calcium tabs, i'm not home now but I seem to recall that's one of the ingredients in mine. Okay, so about a week. I'd say give this a month tops from when you noticed you were tired a lot. Some people take longer to get better, so I wouldn't be surprised. You may need diet adjustments, but I suggest waiting before deciding on that. Pork is okay, the only reason I avoid it (and shellfish) is based on things i've read concerning their protein content and stuff in the maker's diet about them. Techincally you can eat them if you want, I just try to avoid as many toxins as possible with my diet.

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Posted: 09-02-06 14:04pm


Bump.

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Posted: 10-17-06 17:48pm


I'm just now realizing wiith the help of a doctor, that i've had untreated hg for two years now. In that time, I also had my gallbladder out, and have been put on questran resin for the subsequent daily bouts of diarrhea. The symptoms that lead the doctor to suggest hg have been many, varied, and nonspecific: extreme fatigue, malaise, weakness in the legs, severe headaches, right side pressure, sore throat, visual oddities (beer-goggles) derealization disorder, gradual anorgasmia, red skin, bulging veins (especially carotids) and then bouts (recently realized were happening 2-4 hours after eating) of very severe headaches, shaking, rapid heartrate, nervousness, sweating and overall feeling drunk. I've seen er doctors and tons of specialists, and have been told it could be anything from lyme disease to depression, unfortunately every test i've had, has shown me to be in perfect health. Except I feel horrible. These symptoms have been constant, not just after I eat, it just reaches severe levels after I eat. Being italian, I had a big-time sweet tooth and was raised on pasta. For about 2 weeks now, i've been cutting out sugars and carbs like white bread, rice and pasta, and eating mainly fish, nuts, and fruits and veggies. This has eliminated the severe attaks (termed "panic attacks" by the lovely doctors in the er). I found this thread for the diet, and frankly, i'm wondering how this diet was put together. I can see much anecdotal evidence supporting it, and i'd like to try it, but I really can't afford to get much worse. I'm hoping it will work for me, but i'm hesitant. I've felt so sick for the last two years, and felt isolated based on doctors not listening to me, misdiagnosing me, and overall just calling me a hypochondriac, that i've come to trust no one and resign myself to the fact that I would always be sick. I'm hoping that stan's diet is the right thing for me, and helps me improve even faster than I have been. Thank you for your time.

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Posted: 10-17-06 19:29pm


Try it and let us know how it goes! I'm always excited to watch people get better. It should at least give you a good starting point, but depending on activity level and sex you will need to adjust it probably (especially the fat content). Look for my dressing recipe and use that to get your fat and make yourself some nice salads!

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Posted: 10-17-06 22:34pm


Jude I hope this diet does work out for you. From the symptoms and your situation I can see hg most likely is your cause. Stan will tell you that you will be amazed to see your symptoms disappear. But you have to follow perfectly and not get frustrated. There will be times where you will get frustrated and feel bad, but you have to keep going and you will see the results. I had severe fatigue and also the leg aches, do you have constant yawning to with a drowsy look? Thats when I knew something wasnt right. But I am very happy that the fatigue has lifted and along with my leg aches. Im feeling a whole lot better and hope to get back to normal. If you go back to my post you will see me feeling good then writing post of me feeling bad. It is because I went out and drank cause I felt good and ate foods that I was not suppose to eat. Just wanting you to know what not to do. You will never get better doing that and you will get discouraged. It can take days to weeks for a your body to react after you make a mistake. But good luck and keep your head up.

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Posted: 10-18-06 12:17pm


I am looking forward to trying it, but what my question is, is how did you come up with this diet, stan? Did it come from research? From your own experience? I'm looking for the reasons why some foods are omitted and other aren't. Why is "brewer's yeast" included? What kind of multi-vitamin is a "good" one? Subjective, anecdotal evidence is fine, but i'm looking for the logic behind it. This seems like an extreme diet and an extreme change and before I go for it, I need to know a little more. Basically i'm asking you to defend your diet without anecdotal evidence. I know this sounds like an attack, and it's really not, i've already learned alot from reading the posts on this site since yesterday, i'm just very very skeptical of treatments, being that i've been bounced around to so many people who "knew" what was wrong with me, and there treatments amounted to nothing. As for me, since you inquired, i'm a 27-year old white male living in campbell, ca. I started to get sick in late 04, had my gallbladder out in may of 05, after passing stones a couple times a week, and have not recovered since. Hypoglycemia has been recognized as the culprit, and now i'm trying to fix almost 2 years of abuse I unknowingly did to my body. Thanks again for your responses.

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Posted: 10-18-06 17:09pm


Sure, no problem! Basically, this diet was created on a ton of research, trial and error. Since I didn't have anyone to help me I read all I could and did my best to figure out how the hypoglycemic's body seems to work. I tried different variations on diets including the diet currently mentioned in most books, that being the high-carbohydrate diet you'll see in all the most famous books on the disorder. It simply doesn't work as they say it should. Some people can handle carb loads better than others, but most of the people i've met on here have a rough time adjusting to complex carbohydrates. I have no answer why, but i'm one of them. I figured out a way to slowly retrain the body to be able to handle a certain amount of carbohydrates, and then build on it very slowly to get yourself back to a fairly normal eating routine, minus of course tons of sugar, pizza and so forth. You'll never be able to go back to eating that stuff all the time anymore, just isn't going to happen. I included brewer's yeast because it contains chromium, which helps with glucose regulation. In addition, it supplies some b vitamins you will find lacking in my diet because of the lack of grains. Also, brewer's yeast helps with digestion and kills any bad bacteria in the system, so if you have any minor problems with bacterial imbalances, they'll clear up pretty quickly with this stuff. The best kind of multi-vitamin for you will contain none of the following: sugar, starch (any kind), artificial colors, artificial flavors, preservatives, corn, yeast, wheat, grain, egg or milk products. Iron free, preferably. That eliminates pretty much every vitamin you're going to find other than those at health food stores. Just so you know, if you had problems with gallstones, olive oil will clean that out real quick. I'm not sure what you want me to answer, so if you have any questions just ask away, i'm not going to just start from the beginning unless I know what you want to know.

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Posted: 10-18-06 17:34pm


Ok, I appreciate the response. I've been reading the posts on this forum all day, and speaking with my mother (hypoglycemic) and my father (diabetic, non insulin-dependant) and also went to a health-food store and spoke with the owner, who is a registered dietitian and did her final paper on hypoglycemia. Incidentally, she supplied me with a multivitamin exactly as you described, no iron. It says take, like, 4 a day, and it yields crazy amounts of everything, which is a little scary. The multi-vitamin is "super-nutrition, men's blend". She also told me I should take chromium ("new leaf chromium polynicotine") and adrenal support in the form of "rainbow light ginseng adreno-build 4050". I didn't actually start on any of that yet, does it sound right to you? I've taken ginseng before and it amped me in a bad way, but she said this kind is "non-stimulating", and as for the chromium, should I take the suppliment or just brewer's yeast? I've been kinda miserable for so long, i'm looking forward to getting better, and so, will try your diet and see how it goes. As I said, the severe attacks don't happen now that I stopped all overt carbs and sugars and am eating every 3 hours. Now I guess I just have to train my body and watch the other symptoms disappear. Thanks.