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do you think that the pill should become over the counter

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Posted: 08-31-06 03:35am

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i have not heard a pro choicer argue against forced abortion .

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i said I don't agree with what she's said so yes, I am pro-choice as I don't agree with forced parenting or forced abortion.

if you bothered to read the other post you would see that people have stated we didn't agree with what was said. Why in the world would you think people would support forced abortion. I don't and i'm sick of people ignoring statements like this in order to group all pro-choicers together because their argument is failing.
I didn't hear one pro-life person speak out against the advocating of a member committing suicide in another thread and that's totally against pro-life ethics.
The fact is that each thread decends into petty health forum and it's rediculous, we're supposed to be adults geez.....

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Posted: 08-31-06 08:45am

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yes pro-life means anti-choice,anti-rights oh but it gets better were self absorbed and selfish ouch.....

finally, you said something that isn't a lie.

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because no matter what sick twisted statement a pro choicer comes out with they are not challenged by you lot

of course we aren't challenged by pro-lifers - we don't need to lie to support our beliefs, so we stand upon firmer ground. In terms of logic, pro-choicers win hands-down. Sorry, pro-liars...But you lose this one.

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i didn't hear one pro-life person speak out against the advocating of a member committing suicide in another thread and that's totally against pro-life ethics.
The fact is that each thread decends into petty health questioning and it's rediculous, we're supposed to be adults geez.....

but moo, don't you know that pro-life ethics only apply to unborn fetuses? So it's perfectly logical that they would wish death upon someone else, especially an evil pro-choicer. You see, when you're a pro-lifer, it's okay to be a lying hypocrite because you're doing god's will.

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Posted: 08-31-06 09:13am


I stand by my post that women and men who fail to report a rape are self absorbed and selfish if that makes me anti woman then so be it I offer no apology for it. But what I do find to be completly anti woman is a woman that would allow another woman to be raped just to save the embaressment of reporting it now that is anti woman selfishness. For those of you that have been raped how would you have felt if you found out that the person that had raped you had done it before and gone unreported knowing if he had been you would not have been raped? Well I tell you the person that raped me had offended before and had he been reported then he would not have been free to reoffend and it is not a nice feeling finding out you were raped because a selfish woman refused to report her rape anti woman yeah maybe but at least I am not the selfish one and I did something to stop the scum bag re offending .

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Posted: 08-31-06 09:26am

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but what I do find to be completly anti woman is a woman that would allow another woman to be raped just to save the embaressment of reporting it now that is anti woman selfishness.

it's not just about embarrassement but that's your view.
As i've said there are many issues as to why women don't report it (and report by no means guarentees a conviction therefore a prevention of reoffending) but each to their own.

This thread was about the morning after pill being available over the counter though...

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Posted: 08-31-06 09:40am

moo wrote:

diamond splinter wrote:

but what I do find to be completly anti woman is a woman that would allow another woman to be raped just to save the embaressment of reporting it now that is anti woman selfishness.

it's not just about embarrassement but that's your view.

As i've said there are many issues as to why women don't report it (and report by no means guarentees a conviction therefore a prevention of reoffending) but each to their own.

This thread was about the morning after pill being available over the counter though...

no reporting it does not guarantee a conviction but not reporting it does guarantee no conviction

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Posted: 08-31-06 12:21pm

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yes pro-life means anti-choice,anti-rights oh but it gets better were self absorbed and selfish ouch.....

finally, you said something that isn't a lie.

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because no matter what sick twisted statement a pro choicer comes out with they are not challenged by you lot

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amazing how you seem to overlook the part where you advocate the killing of pregnant women, we are used to that from you start all the crap then blame pro life.Way to go , twist the post like lolbahlolbah, you know I was saying that pro choice do not challenge pro choice, continue to show yourself up because you are doing such a good job for women, not.

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Posted: 08-31-06 14:14pm


Yes, sure report that your step-brother keeps on trying to rape you and you get slapped around when you are about 11y/o and get called a liar by an alcy step-mother and have her tell you that if you tell anyone else that I would not see my .Dad again, yes, you think you know it all. I was so glad when I kicked him in the nuts and now he is doing prison time and he is not allowed over any of the family's houses if he gets out except for his mommies. Later, I found out that he tried doing it to others. Their was no morning after pill at that time, that I knew of, of course I wasn't sexually active then either. But my step-mother told me that I could always come to her if I had any problems, yea, right! Last edited by sandyallen on 09-01-06 00:56am; edited 2 times in total

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Posted: 08-31-06 14:29pm

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I was so glad when I kicked him in the nuts and now he is doing prison time

pity the forceful removal of nuts with a rusty blunt instrument is not a legal punishment for rapists and child abusers.

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Posted: 08-31-06 18:00pm

diamond splinter wrote:

but what I do find to be completly anti woman is a woman that would allow another woman to be raped just to save the embaressment of reporting it now that is anti woman selfishness.

it's not embarassment, it's abject terror. It's thinking that it is your fault you were raped, so you don't deserve any help. Its the thought that if you tell, he will hurt you again. Maybe he'll kill you. You have no idea. Plus, reporting it... Makes it real; it's no longer something you can hide inside. It's real... And painful and frightening.

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for those of you that have been raped how would you have felt if you found out that the person that had raped you had done it before and gone unreported knowing if he had been you would not have been raped?

i would feel so much sympathy for the other woman, and give her a hug and tell her that it's all okay now. It's not her fault she got raped, and it's not her fault for being to terrified to report it. Rape is extremely frightening for people who aren't you, diamond.

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Posted: 08-31-06 23:54pm


I very much agree eiri! When you work with them and are around them you understand more. It does not make you less of a woman because I know that men are different.

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Posted: 09-01-06 06:39am

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yes, sure report that your step-brother keeps on trying to rape you and you get slapped around when you are about 11y/o and get called a liar by an alcy step-mother and have her tell you that if you tell anyone else that I would not see my .Dad again, yes, you think you know it all. I was so glad when I kicked him in the nuts and now he is doing prison time and he is not allowed over any of the family's houses if he gets out except for his mommies. Later, I found out that he tried doing it to others. Their was no morning after pill at that time, that I knew of, of course I wasn't sexually active then either. But my step-mother told me that I could always come to her if I had any problems, yea, right!

so did your step brother actually raped you?

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Posted: 09-01-06 08:31am

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i never said I advocated the killing of pregnant women. Once again, you show how dense you are by failing to read my post. I said that stupid people deserve to be disposed of. But if you believe "pregnant woman" is synonymous with "stupid", then that's your opinion. You've just made a whole mess of enemies on this site alone if that's the case.

Why would pro-choicers need to challenge themselves? What challenge is there? To believe in religious garbage that allegedly justifies your beliefs? To see a potential life as being more valuable than an existing and functioning one?

Try again when you actually learn to read. Maybe you should post in the teen pregnancy forum - there seems to be a lot of people there who can't read. You would be in good company.

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Posted: 09-02-06 03:08am

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and honestly, the only way we would ever see fewer or no children in foster care is if we start euthanizing them. There will never be a shortage of unwanted children because there's a surplus of stupid people in this world who insist on making more and more unwanted kids. Hell, I see no problem starting with the source and dragging said stupid people out into the road and blowing them away. Like we need their stupidity further polluting the gene pool anyway. [/quote]

well looks like I can read you called people who did not want to abort but give the child life stupid and advocate killing them, what a doing it lunatic you are.Maybe you should learn to stop lying and let people make thier own choice, after all you are supposed to be pro choice.
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Posted: 09-02-06 07:57am

We already know you can't read, cowboys - you don't need to further prove yourself.

Let me say it again - I did not advocate the killing of pregnant women. I actually said

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the only way we would ever see fewer or no children in foster care is if we start euthanizing them.

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i see no problem starting with the source and dragging said stupid people out into the road and blowing them away.

where in either of those do you see reference to pregnant women? I said specifically that people who put kids in the foster system should be disposed of because of their laziness and stupidity for bringing an unwanted child into the world only to give it away and make it someone else's problem. Part of this was sarcastic, but the other part was true. Now, there's quite a noticeable difference between what I actually said, and what you assume I said, which would be "omfg preggy wimmin r bad we shuld k/ill em all".

For the last time - read my posts before giving me your childish whines. I know as a pro-lifer, you don't have enough brain cells to make a logical or coherent argument, but the least you can do is read what is actually written rather than making stuff up and putting words in my mouth. Maybe you should learn to read, grow up, and learn that not everyone is going to agree with you.

Why is it that all these damned pro-lifers can't freaking read? Dear lord, these retards seem to have the brain capacity of the creatures they try to save.

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Posted: 09-02-06 12:20pm

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we already know you can't read, cowboys - you don't need to further prove yourself.

Let me say it again - I did not advocate the killing of pregnant women. I actually said

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the only way we would ever see fewer or no children in foster care is if we start euthanizing them.

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i see no problem starting with the source and dragging said stupid people out into the road and blowing them away.

right I have been polite to you but as you appear to be incapable of being civil I will not reply to your stupid twaddle again, before I go though, there is something I must say, you say I have no brain cells well as I agree with abortion and you are basing your stupid assumption on the fact that I am pro life, you are saying that anyone who agrees with abortion as no brain cells, keep up the good work.

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Posted: 09-02-06 15:24pm

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look, nothing that cambon said was a lie. Cambion's opinions might be harsh, but he's correct in saying that the people whining about his posts are not reading them correctly. So, his latest outburst is extremely well-deserved. Not only does he clearly explainw hat he actually said and how the pl interpretaton is wrong, but he expanded upon the inital postulations.

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Posted: 09-02-06 15:32pm

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you are basing your stupid assumption on the fact that I am pro life

no, you retard - i'm basing this on the fact that you post in the freaking pro-life forum and that you once got your panties in a wad because I said something negative about pro-lifers and you took offense to it. It's pretty pathetic when you have to switch sides because you can't handle the truth being a pro-lifer. But you made a wise decision to stop arguing - all you're doing is proving more and more how stupid you are with each new post...Not that we need further proof. This would be the first intelligent move you've made.

Thank you for your support, eiri. You see, I can accept when people respectfully or maturely present a disagreement or argument toward my opinions. See example 1.0 eiri - it's when the pro-liars show their uncanny inability to read and passion for lying when they make their childish arguments that it gets on my nerves. I swear, i've known fewer illiterate people in elementary school classes than on this board.

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Posted: 09-02-06 15:47pm

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you are basing your stupid assumption on the fact that I am pro life

if you would care to check your facts before running off with your mouth, I have always agreed with a womans choice, I am personally pro life.Plus if you care to check I also had a go at pro lifers over them slating eiri, go figure.

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Posted: 09-02-06 19:23pm


Sorry, but there's no such thing as agreeing with a woman's choice and being pro-life, unless the woman's choice is to have the child she doesn't want.

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Posted: 09-02-06 19:27pm


There absolutely is a way to be pro-life, yet agree that a woman has a right to chose. As he stated, he is personally pro-life, which means he would never make or want his partner to abort "just because"; however, he will support any woman who wants to abort (even his partner). Last edit: I keep forgetting you're a guy, cowboys xd forgive me! Last edited by Tylanas on 09-03-06 10:56am; edited 1 time in total

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