First off, if this topic belongs in the
debate forum (or it doesn't belong
anywhere), then by all means delete it - I
don't feel like having those knuckle-heads
diving down my throat about it.
I just have to ask why the pro-lifers are
so freaking narrow-minded and stupid.
They whine at pro-choicers for their
opinions, and then they whine some more
when we defend our opinions and/or throw
their crap back at them. Does anyone else
get annoyed by this? I cringe knowing
that the dumbest of the pro-lifers are
parents - those poor children.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-04-06 19:07pm
Just remember that not all pro-lifers are
bad; it is however a fact that some of the
more outspoken pro-lifers are the
extremists. That's a bad fact about our
side too. There are some pro-choicers who
are very narrowminded as well. They also
need to learn to compromise.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-04-06 19:37pm
stillherelosers
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
they also need to learn to
compromise.
when it comes to a woman's right to choose
what happens to her body, there is no
compromise.
you are one of the people who needs to
learn to compromise. We are not talking
about the woman's rights here.
The fetus is alive; and it is inherantly
bad to kill living things without a good
reason. Most people agree to this fact.
We kill meat because we need it to
survive. But most people frown upon
those who randomly shoot birds just for
the hell of it.
The fetus is also human (it might not be a
person... But it is human. This is
undeniable). As such, it is even worse
to kill it without a good reason.
Thus, the focus of pro-choice should be on
birth cotnrol, and to admitting that
abortion isn't just someting to be taken
lightly, and that normal pro-choicers don't
glibly abort, and we don't "promote" it;
we simply wish for it to remain an option.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-04-06 19:52pm
I am reinstating the "ignore stillhere"
campaign... But as I started the argument
with her here, I shall make on more post
in response to her.
I am pro-choice, not anti-choice. I
myself would abort if I was pregnant, I
don't know how much more pro-choice you
can get. But you're famous for incorrect
labling.
I repeat that you need to learn to
compromise.
We are not talking about woman's rights.
Killing things is bad.
Yes, most people, period, agree that
killing things is bad. Pro-life and
pro-choice both.
Yes, humans can live without meat. I
myself am vegetarian. But as a life-style
pro-choicer, I believe it is a person's
right to kill an animal and eat it.
I believe it is bad to hunt for sport; it
is a waste of life. Our .V.P can't aim,
and he's an fool to boot.
I mean everyone's reasons.
I am pro-choice, but i'm not your brand of
extremism. You are the odd duck. You are
the one who does not belong in a debate.
Only those who can compromise and see the
other side desrve to debate. Everyone
else just runs around screaming with their
heads cut off.
I will now ignore you.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-04-06 20:07pm
The "ignore stillhere" campaign will only
work if everyone participates, so please
try hard ^_^
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Posted: 09-04-06 23:54pm
I know out there somewhere in this world
there are pro-lifers who are rational
thinkers, and it's these people whose
opinions I can respect because they
present an argument that does not involve
whining or religion. But this board seems
to draw in the crazy fetus zealots more
than anything, and these people
practically live to pick fights with
everyone, regardless of their position. I
enjoy a good debate, but when I feel like
i'm arguing with a third grader, the
interest just dwindles.
It's too bad there aren't more mature
people on this site - I would love to have
a literate debate with some intelligent
people sometime. But at the rate this
board goes, I think hell will freeze over
before that happens. There are some cool
people on this board, I can't deny that.
But so many of them are practically
unbearable. Oh well...I suppose I can't
expect to meet nothing but agreeable
humans everywhere I go.
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JUNGLE JUICE
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Posted: 09-26-06 04:09am
eiri
wrote:
stillherelosers
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
they also need to learn to
compromise.
when it comes to a woman's right to choose
what happens to her body, there is no
compromise.
you are one of the people who needs to
learn to compromise. We are not talking
about the woman's rights here.
The fetus is alive; and it is inherantly
bad to kill living things without a good
reason. Most people agree to this fact.
We kill meat because we need it to
survive. But most people frown upon
those who randomly shoot birds just for
the hell of it.I dont kill meat,im a
veggie(thank god)
the fetus is also human (it might not be a
person... But it is human. This is
undeniable). As such, it is even worse
to kill it without a good reason.
Thus, the focus of pro-choice should be on
birth cotnrol, and to admitting that
abortion isn't just someting to be taken
lightly, and that normal pro-choicers don't
glibly abort, and we don't "promote" it;
we simply wish for it to remain an
option.
i just have to ask why the pro-lifers are
so freaking narrow-minded and stupid.
They whine at pro-choicers for their
opinions, and then they whine some more
when we defend our opinions and/or throw
their crap back at them. Does anyone
else get annoyed by this? I cringe
knowing that the dumbest of the pro-lifers
are parents - those poor
children.
i do get annoyed when people stray away
from the topic and start attacking the
person. That is not to say that I am not
a pro-lifer and who once in awhile share
my views for those who are desperate of
knowing the guilt after terminating a
life.
I guess parents are the best person to
tell us the joy of having children and
reminding us the value of giving a
helpless creature a life and a future.
that is not to say that I am
not a pro-lifer and who once in awhile
share my views for those who are desperate
of knowing the guilt after terminating a
life.
how sweet of you... Now, off to the
anti choice board,
fundie.
this is what I mean... A personal
attack... I didn't say that people
shouldn't do it but for some people
there's a feeling of guilt before they do
it and come into this forum to get some
guidance. 'those' doesn't mean 'all'.
And I based my opinions from personal
experience.
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cherry88
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Posted: 09-27-06 08:26am
Gotta say I really do get f****d off with
pro-lifers. I try to stay away from the
abortion debate as much as I can cause the
pro-life children just degrade themselves
to childish namecalling- especially the
ringleader, and we all know who he is. As
for the rest of them-puppets on strings,
following their puppet master. They all
get on my tits. One time you resond to
their ear-bashing and suddenly your the
bad guy! They try and turn it around to
you. Using the ''you started it'' wanking
crap like the children they are. Thank
the lord this is the internet cause if I
had the opportunity to meet any of them
trust me, it would be one of us leaving
that meeting. Me.
now I cant even go to the abortion forum,
cause they come on there too with their
sad name calling. It makes me sad for
their children having to be around them
all the time. I get sick of those pricks
online for 2 mins a day.
Sorry im ranting so much but after reading
that natalia's bollocks in the abortion
forum that made me so mad. Not sure if
shes pro-life or pro-choice but she sure
does act like a pro-lifer.
i just have to ask why the pro-lifers are
so freaking narrow-minded and stupid.
They whine at pro-choicers for their
opinions, and then they whine some more
when we defend our opinions and/or throw
their crap back at them. Does anyone
else get annoyed by this? I cringe
knowing that the dumbest of the pro-lifers
are parents - those poor
children.
i do get annoyed when people stray away
from the topic and start attacking the
person. That is not to say that I am not
a pro-lifer and who once in awhile share
my views for those who are desperate of
knowing the guilt after terminating a
life.
I guess parents are the best person to
tell us the joy of having children and
reminding us the value of giving a
helpless creature a life and a
future.
though stillhere may be rude, it is true
that as a pro-lifer, you should not be
posting on these boards. Please refrain
from doing so in the future. Thanks I know, I know.
Stillhere/bahah/etc posts on pro-life and
she isn't dealt with properly, but there
isn't anything I can do about that. I
however, maintain at least a modicum of
discipline on these boards.
i just have to ask why the
pro-lifers are so freaking narrow-minded
and stupid. They whine at pro-choicers
for their opinions, and then they whine
some more when we defend our opinions
and/or throw their crap back at them.
Does anyone else get annoyed by this? I
cringe knowing that the dumbest of the
pro-lifers are parents - those poor
children.
i'm a pro-lifer, and I don't start health
forum until pro-choicers [or anybody else
for that matter] starts making dumb
comments like "potential human life" and
"it's not actually human." it's human dna,
regardless of the stage of development.
Saying stuff like "potential" and "not
actually human" makes it sound like the
person saying it is suggesting that the
child is the product of beastility or
xenophilia.
The worst pro-lifers aren't parents,
though. The worst are the ones trying to
use religion to back themselves up. As
much as i'm against abortion, I really
wish some pro-lifers would just keep their
traps shut.
especially the bible thumpers.
i just have to ask why the
pro-lifers are so freaking narrow-minded
and stupid. They whine at pro-choicers
for their opinions, and then they whine
some more when we defend our opinions
and/or throw their crap back at them.
Does anyone else get annoyed by this? I
cringe knowing that the dumbest of the
pro-lifers are parents - those poor
children.
i'm a pro-lifer, and I don't start health
questioning until pro-choicers [or anybody
else for that matter] starts making dumb
comments like "potential human life" and
"it's not actually human." it's human dna,
regardless of the stage of development.
Saying stuff like "potential" and "not
actually human" makes it sound like the
person saying it is suggesting that the
child is the product of beastility or
xenophilia.
The worst pro-lifers aren't parents,
though. The worst are the ones trying to
use religion to back themselves up. As
much as i'm against abortion, I really
wish some pro-lifers would just keep their
traps shut.
especially the bible
thumpers.
i know your new mate, but this forum isnt
for you.
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diamondsz
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i'm a pro-lifer, and I don't start health
questioning until pro-choicers [or anybody
else for that matter] starts making dumb
comments like "potential human life" and
"it's not actually human." it's human dna,
regardless of the stage of development.
Saying stuff like "potential" and "not
actually human" makes it sound like the
person saying it is suggesting that the
child is the product of beastility or
xenophilia.
.
i have to disgaree with you, on the human
thing
a fetus (or foetus, or fœtus – see
below) is a developing mammal after the
embryonic stage and before birth. The
plural is fetuses or very rarely, foeti.
In humans, a fetus develops from the end
of the eighth week of pregnancy, when the
major structures and organ systems have
formed, until birth. Fetus, in latin,
literally means "filled with young,
pregnant, breeding, with young" as well as
"bringing forth, bearing, hatching,
producing."
****.Embryo
in organisms that reproduce sexually, once
a sperm fertilizes an egg cell, the result
is a cell called the zygote that has all
the dna of two parents. In plants,
animals, and some protists, the zygote
will begin to divide by mitosis to produce
a multicellular organism. The term embryo
refers to the early stages of this
development, after the zygote has divided
at least once, but before the process has
completed to produce the next stage of
development.
***infant
infant is a formal term for the word baby,
the youngest category of a child. The
term "infant" derives from the latin word
in-fans, meaning "unable to speak." there
is no exact definition for infancy. Quite
often babies are called infants until they
reach the age of one. However, babies are
traditionally called "toddlers" when they
start to walk whether or not they have
reached their first birthday. Daycares
with an "infant room" providing care will
call all their children in the infant room
"infants" even if they are older than a
year and/or walking; they will sometimes
use the term "walking infant".
Child
a child (plural: children).Precise
definitions vary; is the offspring, of any
age, of two people. The american heritage
dictionary[1] defined a child as an
individual who has not yet reached
puberty
.Adult
the term adult describes any mature
organism, but normally it refers to a
human: one that is no longer a child /
minor and is now either a man or a woman.
Coming of age is the event of becoming an
adult, i.E. Of entering adulthood.
Historically, adulthood has been
determined by puberty, which is physical
or biological adulthood; passing a series
of tests to demonstrate the child is
prepared for adulthood; or reaching a
specified age, sometimes in conjunction
with demonstrating preparation. Most
modern societies determine legal adulthood
based on reaching a legally-specified age
without requiring a demonstration of
physical maturity or preparation for
adulthood
Dani robin: you seem like an extremely
intelligent debater. I still have to
extend the warning though, that these two
forums on the bottom of the site are
supposed to be "safe havens" for each side
to come to in order to express things
without the other side interrupting.
I can't wait to see you on the debate
boards, I really see us getting along!
she has already been informed by me, and
others, in far nicer ways. You are not a
mod, you have no right to tell her what to
do. You come in here after the issue is
already resolved and try to stir up
trouble. It won't happen.
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cherry88
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Posted: 10-03-06 07:45am
What happened to the angry rant??
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Tylanas
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Isn't it the first post in this topic?
Otherwise, it may have been deleted by
tazzy.
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cherry88
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Posted: 10-03-06 18:36pm
eiri
wrote:
isn't it the first post in
this topic? Otherwise, it may have been
deleted by
tazzy.
ooooo thought it would carry on a bit
longer thats all.
especially the bible thumpers.
