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Jincks013

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Posted: 04-28-07 07:47am

Having had a stillbirth I am appalled and outraged some freak of the week pro-fetal-lifer would cut up my dead fetus and photograph it for propagandizing.
I know some zealot PFL's will do anything but that ought to be criminal!! YOu can't do that to an animal why do it to a human fetus? How can anyone justify that kind of behavior?
That is just sick, wrong and revolting.
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Posted: 04-28-07 12:31pm

Jincks013 wrote:
Having had a stillbirth I am appalled and outraged some freak of the week pro-fetal-lifer would cut up my dead fetus and photograph it for propagandizing.
I know some zealot PFL's will do anything but that ought to be criminal!! YOu can't do that to an animal why do it to a human fetus? How can anyone justify that kind of behavior?
That is just sick, wrong and revolting.


Do you have more explanation about this? Are you saying that pro-lifers take still-born babies and cut them up to make them look like late-term abortions? That's horrible!
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hershey714

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Posted: 04-26-08 14:25pm

if a kid is a still born, would you consider them human? even though they arent living and breathing?
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hershey714

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Posted: 04-26-08 14:31pm

what is wrong with you? a baby cant feed itself, you have to feed it. that doesnt mean you can kill it.
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Posted: 04-26-08 21:45pm

JennyJ wrote:
What do yall really know about abortion?

Ok.. I'll bite..
how about 24 years of research endlessly repeating myself over and over ad nausum to people like you. How about being a woman whose had an abortion? How about being a woman whose had both miscarriages and births? What do I know about abortion? Probably more then you have even attempted to grasp.

JennyJ wrote:
I mean this honestly. I'm not trying to stir caca up because i'm not completely pro-life. You say pro-lifers need to lie to support their cause. Well, abortion clinics lie also. They say things like "oh, it's not painful to have a d&c." that's a lie if I ever heard one.


And Doctors never lie right? They never tell you that 'this will just sting a bit' or 'you'll be up and around in 3 days' or 'this wont hurt'.. well sister they lie. Dentists lie. Optomitrists lie.
I dare you to find a single health care provider who does not lie. Get a grip.
I say you lie. Last D&C I had done I was unconcious for so no, it didn't hurt a bit.
When was yours?

JennyJ wrote:
I've heard many ppl say it was extremely painful.

So what we actually have here is hearsay not fact. Gotcha.

JennyJ wrote:
They tell you "oh, it looks nothing like a baby right now." it might not look like a baby in the very beginning but i've seen sonograms of babies at 9 weeks, 10 weeks, etc... They are still small of course but look human.


Do you have the first clue what you are talking about?? I lost a 20 week pregnancy, the fetus was TINY. no fat, about 5 or so inches long, no hair it was very similar but it was NOT a fully formed post birth healthy baby that you are trying to convince peoplet are being aborted.
Again.. you lie.
If you took the time to look up and understand the vast physiological differences in a full term fetus from the unable to survive outside the womb 10 - 19 week gestation you might not have posted this bit of drivel.


JennyJ wrote:
They aren't a blob of cells like some people think they are.


Oh goody.. another PL defining what I consider more then a blob of cells for me. ask me next time. I don't happen to agree with you which mean.. again you lie.
It is a blob of cells until it is self aware in my book.

JennyJ wrote:
I do agree about the images you guys were talking about though. Most of them are later or fake all together. I just wish both sides would cut the bs you know? Like, why can't girls know nothing but the honest to god facts? Cut out the crap about religion and stop trying to negate the fact that it's a baby. If it's gonna be painful, tell the girl! Give her more counseling before to prepare her for mental aspects of it instead of saying "is anyone making you do this?" and if she says no then go ahead. I just really hate aspects of both sides.


Oh give me a freaking break!!
THen women should be counseled the same when before they make a irrevokable decision to gestate. THey need to know exactly all the danger involved, physical , emotional and psychological aspects. They need to understand their lives will never be the same again.
They should have to watch a long bloody birth.. informed consent? I'm all for it.. for all sides..
Spare me the 'poor ignorant woman' syndrome.
I knew well in advance what abortion was about.

You aren't advocating protection at all. You are merely trying to find another way to control a woman and play emotional manipulation games with her.
Good thing is there are plenty of people like me to stop you.
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Posted: 04-26-08 21:50pm

Tylanas wrote:
Jincks013 wrote:
Having had a stillbirth I am appalled and outraged some freak of the week pro-fetal-lifer would cut up my dead fetus and photograph it for propagandizing.
I know some zealot PFL's will do anything but that ought to be criminal!! YOu can't do that to an animal why do it to a human fetus? How can anyone justify that kind of behavior?
That is just sick, wrong and revolting.


Do you have more explanation about this? Are you saying that pro-lifers take still-born babies and cut them up to make them look like late-term abortions? That's horrible!


what? the posted web site being commented on isn't good enough for you? ohh.. I see. its ok for YOU to comment on but anyone else needs new material eh? Rolling Eyes
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Posted: 04-27-08 18:24pm

makes me wonder though...pro lifers always say that abortions are illegal and wrong and they make it seem like its sooo new etc, but im not sure if i remember right but i read somewere that in some cultures even during the time of our ancestors herbs and concoctions were used to terminate pregnancys. could have been there was no food supply in our enviornments to handle a growing population? the time wasnt right? not a good enviornment? it would be interesting to know if it was true and if it is why the hell pro lifers are making such a big deal and blowing it up until now in the present.
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Posted: 05-28-08 03:00am

why is it that when you search for abortion pictures, the same ones seem to pop up? Oh that's right, late term abortions, you know the ones that look like babies, are RARE! So they don't have many pictures of them and have to use the same ones over and over to scare/convert clueless people
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