I have read that some people are against
hormonal contraception because it prevents
fertilised eggs from implanting and
therefore stops an embryo from growing.
Being someone who has just started taking
the pill myself, I would be interested to
hear what people's opinions are on this
subject. Is taking the pill/depo etc a
form of early abortion? Is it morally
wrong?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-10-06 16:56pm
This is a true fact, the pill can do
this.
However!!!!!
It happens very, very rarely. Personally,
I don't care if it does this. Then again,
I am personally pro-choice.
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Cambion
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Posted: 09-10-06 20:11pm
Yes, birth control can prevent the egg
from attaching itself to the lining of the
uterus, but I would call such an incident
prevention before i'd call it k/illing -
and as eiri said, it's very rare when this
happens. It's not as if a woman would
know she's got a fertilized egg floating
around in her uterus.
Also, hormonal birth control is most
definitely not a form of abortion - if it
was, there would be no need for abortion
clinics. Women would just down a packet
of pills when they are suspicious of
pregnancy if the pills could be used for
this purpose. Along the same lines, I
wouldn't call plan b an "abortion pill"
either - it's purpose is the same as birth
control pills: prevention.
Interesting topic. I'm kind of eager to
see what kind of bickering this topic
elicits.
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Jules
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Posted: 09-11-06 01:38am
Thank you for the input so far! I hope it
doesn't degenerate into
bickering. Any pro-lifers got an
opinion on this?
i have read that some people
are against hormonal contraception because
it prevents fertilised eggs from
implanting and therefore stops an embryo
from growing.
Being someone who has just started taking
the pill myself, I would be interested to
hear what people's opinions are on this
subject. Is taking the pill/depo etc a
form of early abortion? Is it morally
wrong?
in my opinion contraception, in all its
forms is the only way to decrease the
number of abortions, I cannot understand
why some people don't think that
contraceptives are a good thing in the
abortion debate.If we can stop someone who
dosen't want to be pregnant being pregnant
through contraception,then that person
wont need an abortion, everyone wins.
i have read that some people
are against hormonal contraception because
it prevents fertilised eggs from
implanting and therefore stops an embryo
from growing.
Being someone who has just started taking
the pill myself, I would be interested to
hear what people's opinions are on this
subject. Is taking the pill/depo etc a
form of early abortion? Is it morally
wrong?
i know this is a semi-old topic but I
wanted to add my opinion...I think that bc
is a good thing. I am pro-life and I am
pro-birth control. I don't think that bc
causes abortion...It prevents pregnancy
which can help lower the abortion rates.
I don't see that there is anything at all
morally wrong with birth control.
stupid gay woman... Birth control can
cause a fertilized egg from implantation.
Pro zygote murderer.
is it really that hard to be
civilized?
nope, but she is right someof the stuff
she says is right she just doesnt say it
politically correct. Birth control can
kill an early fetus but stops a sperm from
meeting an egg which is another form of
abortion that is wht the bible/church are
against it.
Thats why when I say if you are so prolife
well then you wouldnt take b/c cause in
the end that make you a hypocrite....
stupid gay woman... Birth control
can cause a fertilized egg from
implantation. Pro zygote murderer.
is it really that hard to be
civilized?
birth control can kill an early fetus
but stops a sperm from meeting an egg
which is another form of abortion that is
wht the bible/church are against it.
.
stopping sperm from meeting an egg is not
a form of abortion, health question. In
that situation, conception was
prevented-nothing happened.
Secondly, the pill does not stop sperm
from meeting an egg, bc suppress
ovulation, thus there is no egg to be
fertilized.
Very rarely does it actually happen where
the egg does get fertilized, and when it
does happen, the egg cant implant like the
original poster said.
secondly, the pill does not stop sperm
from meeting an egg, bc suppress
ovulation, thus there is no egg to be
fertilized.
Very rarely does it actually happen where
the egg does get fertilized, and when it
does happen, the egg cant implant like the
original poster
said.
correct natalia. And sometimes with the
pill the eggs gets fertilized and you do
actually get pregnant. If I get pregnant
while i'm on the pill I will for sure not
abort.
And btw protestant christian churches
(i.E. Baptist and so on) do support bc
pills. I think catholics are probably the
only ones against and i'm sure that will
change as well.
i have read that some people
are against hormonal contraception because
it prevents fertilised eggs from
implanting and therefore stops an embryo
from growing.
these people are idiots.
They are not getting their information
from any reputable medical source and
therefore are simply talking out of their
backsides.
The birth control pill has two primary
functions. 1. It stops you from
ovulating. If you do not ovulate, you
will not release an egg. If you do not
release an egg, you cannot become
pregnant.
2. It thickens the lining of the cervix to
prevent sperm from entering the uterus.
Many people get this wrong. They claim
that it thickens the lining of the uterus
which would make it harder for a
blastocyst to implant but they are
mistaken. The medical research shows
that it is the lining of the cervix that
is changed, not the lining of the uterus
itself. Further, there has been a lot
of research on this to date and reputable
studies show no evidence of the lining of
the uterus changing in women who take the
pill (or other hormonal methods) in the
correct doses from women who are not on
hormonal birth control methods.
If it has any other latent functions, i'm
sure that it would have been documented in
research long before now. The rumored
latent functions of the birth control pill
are just that - rumors. There is no
evidence, to date, that a blastocyst or
embryo would be prevented in attaching to
the uterine wall. In fact because 3-5%
of women on a hormonal birth control
method experience an unintended pregnancy,
it is further evidence that the uterus
does not change and that the woman can
still become pregnant even if she takes
the pill correctly. True, most birth
control mishaps occur from not taking it
as directed but there are still women out
there, myself included, who experienced an
unintended pregnancy from a birth control
failure who wish that the pill really
does do all that it is rumoured to do.
Quote:
being someone who
has just started taking the pill myself, I
would be interested to hear what people's
opinions are on this subject. Is taking
the pill/depo etc a form of early
abortion?
no, and neither is
emergency contraception since emergency
contraception is the exact same thing as
the birth control pill just in a higher
dosage.
Quote:
is it morally
wrong?
no. I am not the
master of all that is moral but anyone
claiming that it is morally wrong is
either coming from a very specific faith
that has always decried use of
contraceptives (to boost their numbers
despite the poverty levels of those
numbers) or does not have reputable
information to make that claim.
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secondly, the pill does not stop sperm
from meeting an egg, bc suppress
ovulation, thus there is no egg to be
fertilized.
Very rarely does it actually happen where
the egg does get fertilized, and when it
does happen, the egg cant implant like the
original poster
said.
if I get pregnant while i'm on the pill
I will for sure not abort.
.
if the egg were to get fertilized while on
the pill it would prevent it from
attaching to the uterine wall like the
original poster said. It would be
expelled from your body with your next
period and you never would have known you
were actually pregnant.
So basically, you would kind of have an
"abortion" like some people claim because
of the pill.
secondly, the pill does not stop sperm
from meeting an egg, bc suppress
ovulation, thus there is no egg to be
fertilized.
Very rarely does it actually happen where
the egg does get fertilized, and when it
does happen, the egg cant implant like the
original poster
said.
if I get pregnant while i'm on the pill
I will for sure not abort.
.
if the egg were to get fertilized while on
the pill it would prevent it from
attaching to the uterine wall like the
original poster said. It would be
expelled from your body with your next
period and you never would have known you
were actually pregnant.
So basically, you would kind of have an
"abortion" like some people claim because
of the pill.
that is true 'kind of' but not abortion
because there was no implantation. Where
does it implants it is when you are
pregnant.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 10-06-06 22:02pm
Women who become pregnant on the pill can
and do have ehalthy pregnancies, so
obviously this 'abortive' quality doe snot
happen 100% of the time.
stupid gay woman... Birth control can
cause a fertilized egg from implantation.
Pro zygote murderer.
is it really that hard to be
civilized?
nope, but she is right someof the stuff
she says is right she just doesnt say it
politically correct. Birth control can
kill an early fetus but stops a sperm from
meeting an egg which is another form of
abortion that is wht the bible/church are
against it.
Thats why when I say if you are so prolife
well then you wouldnt take b/c cause in
the end that make you a
hypocrite....
birth control does not kill an early
fetus. Stopping the sperm and egg from
meeting is not abortion. I am prolife and
do not consider myself a hypocrit because
I support birth control. Using birth
control regularly can help keep the number
of unwanted pregnancy down which in turn
could help lower the number of
abortions...I'm all for anything that
lowers the abortion rate!
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Carifairy
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Posted: 10-07-06 10:53am
Paganangel.. =)
yay for birth control! :d
many pro life people consider a
'fertilized' egg to be a baby, so the
possibility of it dying can be seen as
abortifacient.
Birth control prevents ovualtion in the
first place, so of course this would be
rare, but 'could' still happen.
secondly, the pill does not stop sperm
from meeting an egg, bc suppress
ovulation, thus there is no egg to be
fertilized.
Very rarely does it actually happen where
the egg does get fertilized, and when it
does happen, the egg cant implant like the
original poster
said.
if I get pregnant while i'm on the pill
I will for sure not abort.
.
if the egg were to get fertilized while on
the pill it would prevent it from
attaching to the uterine wall like the
original poster said. It would be
expelled from your body with your next
period and you never would have known you
were actually pregnant.
So basically, you would kind of have an
"abortion" like some people claim because
of the pill.
that is true 'kind of' but not abortion
because there was no implantation.
Where does it implants it is when you are
pregnant.
the problem I have with this comment is
because guess what?
That fertilized egg is alive. It is
dividing, it is becoming a baby. That
process starts at fertilization, and I
refuse to consider the fertilized,
unimplanted egg as "not alive yet because
it hasn't implanted".
the problem I have with this comment is
because guess what?
That fertilized egg is alive. It is
dividing, it is becoming a baby. That
process starts at fertilization, and I
refuse to consider the fertilized,
unimplanted egg as "not alive yet because
it hasn't
implanted".
who said is not alive? It is alive but
you are not pregnant until it implants.
