Boyfriend Being Unsupportive After Abortion? Posted: 09-22-06 08:20am
Okay, so I am sort of new to this but I
had an issue and because of how personal
the matter is, I couldn't muster up the
courage to talk to any friends yet about
it. So here goes:
i had a medical abortion 2 days ago. I
was told I was unable to masterbate or
have sex for two weeks to prevent
infection. I left for school tonight and
my boyfriend had the night off. When I
came home, he went to bed and I got on the
computer to start writing my essay for
english.I went to type in ask jeeves and
an internet porn site came up. I
confronted my boyfriend and found out that
while I was at school he had got online
and jacked off to internet porn. I'm not
sure how to feel about this. I guess I
just feel lke we should be in this whole
abortion thing together and that we should
both have to withold from sex and
masterbation for the 2 weeks. Why should
I have to suffer alone? I didn't get
pregnant alone right? Even still, the
fact that he had done this while looking
at other naked women hurt even worse. I
already am feeling down because of the
whole abortion and now I feel like he
betrayed me. A. He witheld the fact the
he had done it b. I also felt like we
should both be witholding from sex and c.
That he had done this while looking at
other women. Am I outta line to be upset?
Are my hormones just outta whack? Cuz I
really feel like he was wrong to have done
this....Any written feedback would be well
appreciated. Or you can just answer
poll...
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Jules
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Posted: 09-22-06 08:48am
I think you're over-reacting totally - it
probably is the hormones. There's
nothing wrong in your man looking at porn
- he needs to 'relieve himself' and surely
you'd rather he did that looking at some
saucy pictures than going out and finding
some cheap slag to sleep with?
Give the guy a break!!!
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PorraSA
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Re: Posted: 09-22-06 09:33am
Ok, I can understand that you would want
him to go through what you are going
through cause this was a joint decision
and you guys did do this together.
However rb20 you have to understand that
boys will be boys! They do that sort of
thing all the time....I agree with what
purestgreen said...Rather he get off
looking at a computer than land up in the
sack with a another slag....!
2 weeks isn't that long....You can hold
out. But as your bf just proved men cant!
Its a fact that all woman have to face!
Maybe he tried to keep it from you cause
he didn't want to hurt your feelings!
It's not like he is being unfaithful
sweetie! But I can also relate to what
you saying!
Welcome to the forum, i'm also new!!
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RB20
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Posted: 09-22-06 09:34am
Thank you for the response. I guess I am
just uneasy about the whole porn issue.
I just feel like he shouldn't have hid it
from me. What is a relationship without
communication? I just feel like the
timing was horrible for us. Here I am
stuck without any sexual contact from a
procedure that took both of us to cause
and he's going behind my back and jacking
off to internet porn. Your right in the
fact that he probably hid it from me due
to my feelings...I didn't really think
about that. Anyonelse have feedback?
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jenn_smithson
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Re: Boyfriend Being Unsupportive After Abortion? Posted: 09-22-06 14:50pm
rb20
wrote:
okay, so I am sort of new to
this but I had an issue and because of how
personal the matter is, I couldn't muster
up the courage to talk to any friends yet
about it. So here goes:
i had a medical abortion 2 days ago. I
was told I was unable to masterbate or
have sex for two weeks to prevent
infection. I left for school tonight and
my boyfriend had the night off. When I
came home, he went to bed and I got on the
computer to start writing my essay for
english.I went to type in ask jeeves and
an internet porn site came up. I
confronted my boyfriend and found out that
while I was at school he had got online
and jacked off to internet porn. I'm not
sure how to feel about this. I guess I
just feel lke we should be in this whole
abortion thing together and that we should
both have to withold from sex and
masterbation for the 2 weeks. Why should
I have to suffer alone? I didn't get
pregnant alone right? Even still, the
fact that he had done this while looking
at other naked women hurt even worse. I
already am feeling down because of the
whole abortion and now I feel like he
betrayed me. A. He witheld the fact
the he had done it b. I also felt like
we should both be witholding from sex and
c. That he had done this while looking
at other women. Am I outta line to be
upset? Are my hormones just outta whack?
Cuz I really feel like he was wrong to
have done this....Any written feedback
would be well appreciated. Or you can
just answer poll...
is this feeling about
masturbation and porn something you've
always felt or is it just now? What I
mean is, are you uncomfortable with the
idea of your boyfriend looking at porn all
the time or just right now? And, are you
uncomfortable with the idea of your
boyfriend masturbating all the time or
just right now?
If you've always been uncomfortable with
it, then you have, in my opinion, a
legitimate complaint since he would know
how you already feel about the subject.
However, if this is something new and you
haven't yet conveyed your feelings to him,
then you can't expect him to know.
Or, if you told him that just after the
abortion and he still went and did it, then
you have a legitimate complaint.
Can I just tell you something that i've
learned after being with the same guy for
over six years (going on three married)?
He's going to look at other women (whether
porn or not) in a sexual way. He's going
to fantasize about other women. He's
going to think about other women when he
masturbates and he will always masturbate.
However, the good news is that this does
not mean that he wants to break up with
you or not be with you. Everyone
fantasizes and as long as they remain just
fantasies, there's nothing harmful about
them. In fact, sharing your fantasies
with your partner can open a whole new
dialogue and sexual openness between the
two of you. I once died my hair and
bought a ridiculous outfit to spice things
up just as he regularly shaves and bought
me toy that I fantasized about once.
I do agree with you about the
communication problems and the fact that
you think he tried to hide it. I think,
though, that you both could work together
on repairing the issues of trust that were
broken. You could tell him how it feels
to be in your position right now and if
he's any type of human being, he should be
able to empathize with you.
Best of luck,
jenn
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RB20
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Posted: 09-22-06 18:18pm
In response to:
[ is this feeling about masturbation and
porn something you've always felt or is it
just now? What I mean is, are you
uncomfortable with the idea of your
boyfriend looking at porn all the time or
just right now? And, are you
uncomfortable with the idea of your
boyfriend masturbating all the time or
just right now? ]
i don't have a problem with masturbation
in general, I just don't and have never
liked him doing it while looking at other
naked women. And yea, he knew this and
had promised not to masturbate to other
women. I told him if it happened again
not to be ashamed and to tell me. I want
to understand it. When I try to talk to
him about why and what he likes and looks
at he get uncomfortable and shuts down.
We do have a normal sexual relatonship,
other than right now due to the recent
abortion.I guess I need to ether try and
understand that it will happen in our
relationship or find someone who shares my
values and doesn't. I just wish he
could've communicated more to me about the
whole thing. I'm huge on communication.
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RB20
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Posted: 09-22-06 18:28pm
In response to:
[if you are against porn, then maybe he
isn't the guy for you. You shouldn't have
to "deal with it" just because he is a
"guy". Not all men jack off to the
objectification of women. He shouldn't
have to "suffer" with you either. You had
the choice, not him, to abort. ]
i agree that there are probably other men
out there who share the same value as me
about masturbating to porn. If this
relationship doesn't work out then I will
consider that next time. On another note,
I don't assume that i, alone, had the
choice to abort. We talked and made that
choice together. Just like the conception
itself, I belived it was both our choice.
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 09-25-06 12:25pm
Hun, masterbation is normal, the need to
feel release is normal. I guess since
you weren't able to accomidate him he
dicided that he would take another route.
Like purest green stated at least it was
with a computer girl instead of some hussy
off the street. At least he didn't cheat
on you.
You are going thru a time right now. I
understand that you want him to feel what
you are going thru . But you know hun,
he will never know what you are going
thru. I really don't think that he was
wrong, I am sure that he thought it was
fine to take care of his need because he
knew that you wouldn't be able too. He
may not have wanted to pressure you into
having sex because he knew that the doctor
had told you guys not too.
Masterbation is perfectly normal, to porn
or not, but talking about it isn't really
normal to most men. I dont' think that
you should be all worked up about his
masterbation miscommunition.
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Moo
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Posted: 09-25-06 13:39pm
I personally have no problems with porn
but I think if one partner has a problem
then it should be talked about.
I'm going against the grain here but I do
think your bf was being insensitive - he
probably didn't realise but I can
understand why you'd feel hurt
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Cambion
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Posted: 09-25-06 16:58pm
Please don't be upset when I say this, but
I think you may be overreacting a little
bit. Even in the best relationships with
the best sex, partners may still feel the
need to masturbate. Your boyfriend
doesn't masturbate to porn because he has
lost interest in you...What he's doing is
merely a means of relief, rather than
pleasure. If all he needed was his hand
and a computer to make him happy, he
wouldn't be with you.
May I ask you something? Would you rather
he be masturbating to porn of other women,
or having sex with other women behind your
back? I understand you kind of want
someone else to suffer along with you, but
just because you're healing from your
abortion doesn't mean he's going to
automatically be turned off until you're
fully healed. As great as that would be,
the male body doesn't work that
conveniently
in any case, if it's really really bugging
you, have a talk with your boyfriend about
this. Do keep in mind that asking a man
to refrain from masturbating would be like
asking the pope to refrain from prayer.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 09-25-06 23:01pm
Um just a suggestion but.. Just cause you
can't have sex doesn't mean you can't get
enjoyment (wven without masturbation) from
giving him oral. I personally get a lot
of pleasure from making my guy totally
submissive. Then again, that's how we do
oral. Many couples have a stupid view of
it, and the male ends up being in control
and then the whole act becomes
degrading.
Then he wouldn't have the need to
masturbate to porn. This is what I do
during my period, since I refuse to have
sex while "on the rag"
also... What about in the shower? For
just you I mean, and just external,
clitoral stimulation. I don't see how
that could possibly introduce disease into
the vagina or uterus.
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RB20
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Posted: 09-27-06 23:46pm
In response to:he may not have wanted to
pressure you into having sex because he
knew that the doctor had told you guys not
too.
Reply:i hadn't thought of that. Thank you
for the response.
In response to:i'm going against the grain
here but I do think your bf was being
insensitive - he probably didn't realize
but I can understand why you'd feel hurt
reply:when I confronted him it did seem
clear that he hadn't even realized it
would affect me the way that it had.
Thank you for at least sympathizing with
the hurt I felt.
In response to:so you made a choice to get
pregnant? Wow. That is a new one. You
got pregnant on purpose to abort?
Reply:no, I meant that the careless action
that lead to the conception was both of
our choice. We both knew it was careless
and could lead to conceiving. That was
not my choice alone. It took two to
perform the careless act of having sex
unprotected. The pregnancy was not
planned. Although, we should've both
known better.
In response to:
and no, it was only your .C.H.O.I.C.E.
You just chose to allow your boyfriend to
have a voice in your option.
Reply:i disagree. I believed since we
both made the careless act that we both
should agree on how to handle it. We sat
down together and talked about the
decision. In the end, I choose to take
the pill that caused the abortion to take
place, yes, but he was with me every step
of the way and if at anytime he disagreed,
I would've stopped and valued his opinion
just as much as my own.
In response to:
your boyfriend doesn't masturbate to porn
because he has lost interest in you...What
he's doing is merely a means of relief,
rather than pleasure. If all he needed
was his hand and a computer to make him
happy, he wouldn't be with you.
Reply:when I confronted him he did mention
that it had nothing to do with his
feelings of satisfaction with me. He made
it clear that he was sexually satisfied
with me and that it was just easily
accessible at the time for him to look at
porn and take care of himself in that
manner. This did make me feel better
about the situation.
In response to:
i understand you kind of want someone else
to suffer along with you, but just because
you're healing from your abortion doesn't
mean he's going to automatically be turned
off until you're fully healed. As great
as that would be, the male body doesn't
work that conveniently
reply:i understand now how much the
abortion affected his attraction to me and
his feelings sexually towards me in the
healing process. He also admitted he felt
guilty about getting me pregnant and that
in itself turned him off from sexual
activity until I get on a form of birth
control.
In response to:in any case, if it's really
really bugging you, have a talk with your
boyfriend about this. Do keep in mind
that asking a man to refrain from
masturbating would be like asking the pope
to refrain from prayer.
Reply:i like your sense of humor!
In response to:just cause you can't have
sex doesn't mean you can't get enjoyment
(wven without masturbation) from giving
him oral.
Reply: I would've been more than happy to
do this but he failed to communicate to
me. I was too occupied with the abortion
itself to even think of this on my own.
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RB20
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Posted: 09-27-06 23:49pm
Thank you for all the responses..And for
being honest! I appreciate all the
thoughts, ideas and suggestions.
I had a long talk with my boyfriend about
it and feel more comfortable with the
situation.
Any more suggestions or responses would
still be well appreciated!
-rb20
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Posted: 09-28-06 10:40am
I think there is nothing wrong with a man
looking at porn as long as it does not
become abused as in 24/7, men need to be
sexually pleased and a relatioship
consists of 50/50. Honestly like eiri
said, if you dont want him watching porn
then why not do it for him and hell
probally appreciate it more.
After you have a kid you cant have sex for
6 weeks, your only asked not to do
anything for 2 weeks be happy about could
be worse right.
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