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Kypros

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Question For Those Who've Had Multiple Abortions
Posted: 09-22-06 14:36pm

Ok, maybe this isn't the correct place to put this (but I think it should be here rather than the abortion debate forum), but I would like to ask a question to the women (carifairy in particular) who've undergone several abortions. I'm not criticising you or here to mock/attack you. It's just i'm writing a thesis on the abortion debate and found multiple abortions an interesting topic.

Of course, i'm not forcing anybody to reply, although I hope to get some response. I would like to ask the following questions:

how many abortions have you had and when?
Why did you opt to terminate these pregnancies (i.E. Circumstances)?
Do you regret your decisions?
Do you admit you were careless to have multiple abortions (i'm not suggesting having multiple abortions is careless. Don't misinterpret me. In cases where multiple abortions have occurred because of no birth control it can be seen as careless and do you view your own situations as careless or non-regrettable ok decisions?)?
Did you have support (i.E. Family, father of child)

and finally a question only for carifairy:

have your multiple abortions made you choose a career path around unwanted pregnancies?

Thanks ever so much for your time.

Kypros.
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Re: Question For Those Who've Had Multiple Abortions
Posted: 09-22-06 14:58pm

kypros wrote:
in cases where multiple abortions have occurred because of no birth control it can be seen as careless and do you view your own situations as careless or non-regrettable ok decisions?)?
first, a lack of birth control is not always the carelessness of the woman who experiences an unintended pregnancy. Secondly, the last portion of the question does not fit because with an unintended pregnancy, or even multiple unintended pregnancies, the options are not "carelessness" or "non-regrettable ok decisions." you have created an either/or situation that does not allow for the huge diversity that many women experience in their personal situations. Also, with only these two options, neither of which are necessary and sufficient (one is necessary but not sufficient, the other sufficient but not necessary), you are limiting the scope and direction of your thesis. I think it is a bad question and if I was your professor, I would make you throw it out or redo it.

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have your multiple abortions made you choose a career path around unwanted pregnancies?


Thanks ever so much for your time.


Kypros.
multiple pregnancies, especially unintended pregnancies, can lead someone to choose a career path around unintended pregnancies. For example, all of our nurse practitioners experienced unintended pregnancies at young ages, two of them were very young. Not having the education to protect themselves, the inevitable occurred. In order to help other women not get into the same situation, they have all chosen to work with us. I am the only one to terminate a pregnancy, the rest have 2 to 4 children, and they are sometimes more passionate about the work that we do than I am.
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Kypros

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Re: Question For Those Who've Had Multiple Abortions
Posted: 09-22-06 15:15pm

jenn_smithson wrote:
kypros wrote:
in cases where multiple abortions have occurred because of no birth control it can be seen as careless and do you view your own situations as careless or non-regrettable ok decisions?)?
first, a lack of birth control is not always the carelessness of the woman who experiences an unintended pregnancy. Secondly, the last portion of the question does not fit because with an unintended pregnancy, or even multiple unintended pregnancies, the options are not "carelessness" or "non-regrettable ok decisions." you have created an either/or situation that does not allow for the huge diversity that many women experience in their personal situations. Also, with only these two options, neither of which are necessary and sufficient (one is necessary but not sufficient, the other sufficient but not necessary), you are limiting the scope and direction of your thesis. I think it is a bad question and if I was your professor, I would make you throw it out or redo it.


you misunderstood me. I wasn't suggesting they are the only two options. They are just two common options. I am not limiting the options. The usual factor for why people are considered/feel careless about their abortion is misuse of birth control. Being raped and impregnated, for example, is not careless on the mother's half.

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Posted: 09-22-06 16:40pm

Krypos.. I am open to any communication =) you may also im me for an email address so we could talk even further than my explaination could give.

1)how many abortions have you had and when? I have had 3 abortions..I am 24. I had 2 at 18 and 1 at 20.

2)why did you opt to terminate these pregnancies (i.E. Circumstances)?
I cannot use hormonal birth control, and both my husband and I know this because he knows my medical history. I used barrier methods of birth control, a diaphragm and the "sponge' =) I became pregnant twice while using barrier methods so I opted to get an iud, which is just as effective as tubal ligation. I became pregnant again! I do use an iud now, but I also use spermicidal lubricants as well. I was obviously using birth control because I did not want to be pregnant, and since I became pregnant when I did not want to be, I had an abortion.

3)do you regret your decisions? Not at all.

4)do you admit you were careless to have multiple abortions. I feel that carelessness makes no difference, although I advocate birth cotnrol and protecting yourself . I do not feel that I was careless, I used birth control as best as I could, and nothing is perfect.


Did you have support (i.E. Family, father of child) yes, I had and have all the support I needed to do whatever I want, but I personally do not ever want children, so I married someone who felt the same way.


Have your multiple abortions made you choose a career path around unwanted pregnancies?
Yes, partially..My mother is a nurse, and I always knew I wanted to follow in her footsteps, I just did not know which field I wanted. I do enjoy working with elderly, but I get so much more when working with womens healthcare needs.
When I had my first abortion, noone knew where I should I go, or what the best clinic was for my area.People also tried to scare me, and said false things about abortion that they labeled as facts.
I decided that I wnated to be the person who is supportive, informative, and can be there for women.

I counsel women, I also assist in the procedure, and I volunteer with a ride program to help women get to appointments.
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Posted: 09-23-06 10:57am

Thanks a lot. I've pmd you, and i'd still like other women to answer my questions if they would. The more the merrier!

Thanks again.

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Posted: 09-23-06 11:45am

My buddy would like to share her expierence and has given me permission to post this information to help other woman as well(her name is sammie)

1.)how many abortions have you had and when? 2 abortions at 19

2.)why did you opt to terminate these pregnancies (i.E. Circumstances)?
The time wasnt right &bf was abusive(posessive as hell too)

3.)do you regret your decisions? Sometimes, I think if the father would have stuck around or if the relationship was better we would have kept it, sometimes I blame the father for being such an @ss

4.)do you admit you were careless to have multiple abortions
no, I was in a relationship that I thought was normal at the time, he was the man I thought I would be with in the future and we already had one child together(later on though)

5.)did you have support (i.E. Family, father of child) I have family but they are only there when they want something, I have friends but I dont talk openly with all of them.

Just abit extra to share
the father cheated on me and I ended up with an std because I didnt protect myself, I just want other woman to take care of themselves and fight to live, abuse should not be tolerated although I do have one beautiful girl I may not have other kids because of my .S.T.D
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Posted: 09-23-06 12:30pm

Thanks very much for the post diamondsz (and thank your friend on my behalf). Just one extra thing - was she pressured into her abortions by her boyfriend?
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Posted: 09-23-06 12:38pm

kypros wrote:
thanks very much for the post diamondsz (and thank your friend on my behalf). Just one extra thing - was she pressured into her abortions by her boyfriend?


she did it without telling him she was afraid he would do something or leave her, basically I got she had an abortion and then got preggo but kept it the second time so im wondering if it was out of guilt.
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Posted: 09-23-06 14:33pm

How many abortions have you had and when?
3 i've had 2 at 19 and 1 at 20.

Why did you opt to terminate these pregnancies (i.E. Circumstances)?
I am so young, not financially stable yet, and still finishing up with school.

Do you regret your decisions?
I felt guilt. I don't regret the decision, it was the best decision for me at the time.

Do you admit you were careless to have multiple abortions ?
I have tried a number of birth control forms, I have had really bad reactions. I've tried everything: iud-it gave me unbearable cramps I couldn't even sit in class. Depot-shot-i gained 35lbs. Othro tri-cyclene low-the doctor and I could never regulate this. Nuva ring-didn't stay inside and my hair was falling out from it left and right. Condoms-give me bladder infections. However, I will admit, I got discouraged being 19 and having no working method of birth control. I gave up. I suppose I could've used a different type of condom. In fact I know I could've. The first time I got pregnant, I was with my bf of a year and we had just gotten our first apartment. We were having lots of sex and I hadn't found the right birth control for me. Instead, of using different condoms, we just used nothing. It was more convenient and yes it was 100%careless. The second time I got pregnant while on the nuva ring. The third and last time, I had gotten into a new relationship and we had both been tested. I did begin to act careless and had a lot of unprotected sex with my bf without even thinking of the consequencs. The third pregnancy, was ended three days ago. I will say that on my follow-up appt. I will be getting the depot-shot. Even though last time I gained a ton of weight on it. I think i'd rather force myself to stay ontop of exercise then to be careless and get pregnant again.
Did you have support (i.E. Family, father of child)
the first time my mother took me. The second and third time my boyfriend 100% supported me and was there for everything.

Good luck on your paper.
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Kypros

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Posted: 09-24-06 14:09pm

Thank you all! Others can still answer the questions.

I guess the question I forgot to put onto that is:

would you abort again? (if you guys could just answer that that'd be great).

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Posted: 09-24-06 15:20pm

I would have another abortion if I became pregnant again.
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Posted: 09-24-06 16:15pm

Yes,
if I had to do it all over again I would do it the same and abort. If I became pregnant again now, then yes I would have another abortion.
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Posted: 09-26-06 11:34am

Thank you all. I just need sammie to answer this question. Thanks again.

Kypros
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