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dani_robin
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Immaculate Conception: Real Or Fiction?
Posted: 09-29-06 09:36am
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So anybody who's ever been exposed to
religion probably knows that the term
immaculate conception tends to refer to
jesus and mary, but i'm not talking about
it in a religious sense.
Over the years i've heard of different
people having children without introducing
sperm/etc. Is it possible for a woman to
become pregnant without ever having sex
[including other forms of semination [is
that the right word?] that can occur.]
it must seem like a silly question, but
i've wondered about this for several
yearas now.
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Re: Immaculate Conception: Real Or Fiction?
Posted: 09-29-06 09:44am
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| dani_robin
wrote: | so anybody who's ever been
exposed to religion probably knows that
the term immaculate conception tends to
refer to jesus and mary, but i'm not
talking about it in a religious sense.
Over the years i've heard of different
people having children without introducing
sperm/etc. Is it possible for a woman to
become pregnant without ever having sex
[including other forms of semination [is
that the right word?] that can occur.]
it must seem like a silly question, but
i've wondered about this for several
yearas now. |
who have you heard of having children
without sperm?? That is the dumbest thing
I have ever heard. You cannot make a baby
without an egg and sperm, period.
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Posted: 09-29-06 10:43am
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If you were to somehow conceive without
being anywhere near sperm, you would be
all over the international news as the
next .Virgin .Mary. I won't say it's
*impossible* because I do believe it
happened once. But that was a miracle,
and miracles don't happen every day. I
will say that it is veeeeeeeeeeeery
unlikely to ever happen in our lifetimes,
and I will leave it at that.
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 09-29-06 11:01am
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This is rediculous.
It all depends on whom you talk to.
Some believe in the bible, and
christianity, and firmly believe in the
whole. *miracle conception* that begot
.Jesus.
Some believe its bologna.
Fact of the matter is, its physically
impossible to conceive without both ends
of the spectrum.
For this question to bring up any sort of
debate is rediculous. Come on you guys.
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Posted: 09-29-06 14:35pm
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Mmmmmmm you cant be for real? The only
women whom claim such things such be
locked up and in straight jackets.
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diamondsz
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Posted: 09-29-06 14:40pm
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Actually referring to the bible, mary was
actually not a virgin jesus has older and
younger sibling I believe nine so I highly
doubt it.
Honestly, an egg needs a sperm to concieve
a child doesnt matter how its done, in
vitro etc it still needs a sperm!
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Posted: 09-29-06 14:53pm
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| emma2
wrote: | | mmmmmmm you cant be for
real? The only women whom claim such
things such be locked up and in straight
jackets. |
uh,then how do you explain my situation?
How do you explain my daughter! Lmao!
I am in an *odd* mood today. . .
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Posted: 09-29-06 14:55pm
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Wait if .Jesus had older brothers
&sisters then why was .Mary even said
to be the .Virgin .Mary? 
.I mean .I don't believe in what the bible
says at all.
A bunch of sexist pigs wrote it &it's
certainly not the
"word of god" (just my opinion- .I have
high respect
for .Christians!). But is it really that
obviously flawed?
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Posted: 09-29-06 14:57pm
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I didn't think it ever mentioned that he
had brothers and sisters in the bible..
Did it? I dunno i've never actually sat
down and read it but my family has.. And
I don't think they've ever mentioned it.
Maybe i'm wrong, probably. Pretty
pathetic that i've gone to church my
whoooole life and I don't know anymore
than I do.
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Posted: 09-29-06 15:11pm
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question:
"did jesus have brothers and sisters
(siblings)?"
answer: the bible never gives an exact
count, but jesus’ siblings are mentioned
in several bible verses. Matthew 12:46,
luke 8:19, and mark 3:31 say that jesus’
mother and brothers came to see him.
Jesus had four brothers: james, joseph,
simon, and judas (matthew 13:55). Jesus
also had sisters, but they are not named
or numbered (matthew 13:55-56). In john
7:1-10, his brothers go on to the
festival. In acts 1:14, his brothers and
mother pray for him. Later in galatians
1:19, it mentions that james was jesus’
brother. The most natural conclusion of
these passages is to interpret that jesus
had actual blood siblings. There is no
biblical reason to believe that these
siblings are not the actual children of
mary and joseph. They were obviously
born after jesus, because jesus was born
of a virgin {isa 7:14; luke
1:26-38}.
i'm not at all religious, I just googled
this.
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Posted: 09-29-06 15:21pm
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| hcobrunette06
wrote: | | i didn't think it ever
mentioned that he had brothers and sisters
in the bible.. Did it? I dunno i've
never actually sat down and read it but my
family has.. And I don't think they've
ever mentioned it. Maybe i'm wrong,
probably. Pretty pathetic that i've gone
to church my whoooole life and I don't
know anymore than I do. |
this is a big controversy in the religious
world. Catholics believe the "brothers"
refered to where "friends" , they believe
jesus called his peers brothers.
Different faiths believe "brothers" is
literally blood related.
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Posted: 09-29-06 16:04pm
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I think it's kind of funny how .Jesus
claimed to be the saviour &the son of
.God (.I'm not saying he wasn't).. But if
anyone today said they were the messiah,
they'd be sent straight to the looney bin.
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Posted: 09-29-06 16:09pm
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Do you know how many people *do* claim to
be the messiah? A lot of them *belong* in
the looney bin! Of course, they also have
a miniature invisible .Elvis on their
shoulder telling them to hold up liquor
stores with tinfoil knives... 
.I'm in a silly mood today.
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Posted: 09-29-06 16:33pm
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L.M.A.O!!!
....*hides tinfoil knife*
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Posted: 09-29-06 17:55pm
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Ha, is this discussion really taking
place?
:: leaves quickly ::
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dani_robin
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Posted: 09-29-06 23:49pm
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You know, I was under the impression that
this was a mature forum. I already said
this wasn't meant as a religious question.
i had heard of cases where a woman gave
birth without sex and was wondering if it
was possible.
Btw, I came across an article today and
while it's not quite the same as what I
was asking, there is a chance that a child
can be created without sperm. If the
chromosomes of two eggs are together it
can produce a female child, but that
requires medical procedures.
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smoothiesRyummy
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Posted: 09-30-06 00:19am
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There are numerous cases of girls becoming
pregnant without having sex. One girl in
my school a few years back had that happen
to her. You see, what they do is "dry
hump" with their boyfriends with their
undies on and the little spermies somehow
find a way to travel through mommy and
daddy's undies into the girl's vagina and
.B.O.O.M there's a virgin pregnancy. It
sounds impossible, but it's happened.
I know this isn't saying whether girls can
become pregnant immaculately, but they can
without technically having sex.
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Posted: 09-30-06 00:54am
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I think the example smoothiesryummy
provided is the closest thing to
immaculate conception you'll ever find.
There's no way to conceive without sperm,
so an immaculate conception is
impossible.
Dani_robin, if the people you know are
having kids without the presence of sperm,
they are either involved in an incredible
medical anomaly, or they desperately need
to get a large dose of anti-psychotics.
Or maybe they just adopted. You don't
need sperm for that - just $20k, no bad
habits, and the same ethnicity as the
child.
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Sandbox Party
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Posted: 09-30-06 11:50am
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| smoothiesryummy
wrote: | there are numerous cases of
girls becoming pregnant without having
sex. One girl in my school a few years
back had that happen to her. You see,
what they do is "dry hump" with their
boyfriends with their undies on and the
little spermies somehow find a way to
travel through mommy and daddy's undies
into the girl's vagina and .B.O.O.M
there's a virgin pregnancy. It sounds
impossible, but it's happened.
I know this isn't saying whether girls can
become pregnant immaculately, but they can
without technically having
sex. |
yes technically without havcing sex
but not without sperm
secondly...
My friend .Jarmaine has lots of bruthas
and sistaz.. All his friends are his
bruthas and sistas.. Including me lol
(and we are sooo obviously not related.
(definate pigment difference lol)
allthough I adore him to death..)
and yeah... Even if the bible *was*
referring to blood siblings... Doesnt
mean it couldnt have been referring to
younger ones.
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Posted: 09-30-06 12:01pm
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| arcadia
wrote: | | i think it's kind of funny
how .Jesus claimed to be the saviour
&the son of .God (.I'm not saying he
wasn't).. But if anyone today said they
were the messiah, they'd be sent straight
to the looney bin. |
well it was the same thing back
then.....Except he wasn't sent to the
looney bin, he was sent to his death.
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