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Posted: 09-30-06 12:05pm

rainfire1424 wrote:
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there are numerous cases of girls becoming pregnant without having sex. One girl in my school a few years back had that happen to her. You see, what they do is "dry hump" with their boyfriends with their undies on and the little spermies somehow find a way to travel through mommy and daddy's undies into the girl's vagina and .B.O.O.M there's a virgin pregnancy. It sounds impossible, but it's happened.

I know this isn't saying whether girls can become pregnant immaculately, but they can without technically having sex.


yes technically without havcing sex

but not without sperm

secondly...



My friend .Jarmaine has lots of bruthas and sistaz.. All his friends are his bruthas and sistas.. Including me lol (and we are sooo obviously not related. (definate pigment difference lol) allthough I adore him to death..)

and yeah... Even if the bible *was* referring to blood siblings... Doesnt mean it couldnt have been referring to younger ones.


did I .F.R.E.A.K.I.N.G say without sperm???!!! I'm not stupid.
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Posted: 09-30-06 12:24pm

smoothiesryummy wrote:
rainfire1424 wrote:
smoothiesryummy wrote:
there are numerous cases of girls becoming pregnant without having sex. One girl in my school a few years back had that happen to her. You see, what they do is "dry hump" with their boyfriends with their undies on and the little spermies somehow find a way to travel through mommy and daddy's undies into the girl's vagina and .B.O.O.M there's a virgin pregnancy. It sounds impossible, but it's happened.

I know this isn't saying whether girls can become pregnant immaculately, but they can without technically having sex.


yes technically without havcing sex

but not without sperm

secondly...




My friend .Jarmaine has lots of bruthas and sistaz.. All his friends are his bruthas and sistas.. Including me lol (and we are sooo obviously not related. (definate pigment difference lol) allthough I adore him to death..)

and yeah... Even if the bible *was* referring to blood siblings... Doesnt mean it couldnt have been referring to younger ones.


did I .F.R.E.A.K.I.N.G say without sperm???!!! I'm not stupid.


hun before u get all stupid with me.. I was making a point to the thread starter, not you.
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Posted: 09-30-06 13:50pm

dani_robin wrote:
you know, I was under the impression that this was a mature forum. I already said this wasn't meant as a religious question. Mad

i had heard of cases where a woman gave birth without sex and was wondering if it was possible.


Btw, I came across an article today and while it's not quite the same as what I was asking, there is a chance that a child can be created without sperm. If the chromosomes of two eggs are together it can produce a female child, but that requires medical procedures.


this is the 'pregnancy' forum. Not the hypothetical pregnancy forum.
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Posted: 09-30-06 13:51pm

ingi wrote:
dani_robin wrote:
you know, I was under the impression that this was a mature forum. I already said this wasn't meant as a religious question. Mad

i had heard of cases where a woman gave birth without sex and was wondering if it was possible.



Btw, I came across an article today and while it's not quite the same as what I was asking, there is a chance that a child can be created without sperm. If the chromosomes of two eggs are together it can produce a female child, but that requires medical procedures.


this is the 'pregnancy' forum. Not the hypothetical pregnancy forum.


lmao
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Posted: 09-30-06 14:49pm

Well there was a girl at my school who apparently just .L.O.O.K.E.D at a guy and she got pregnant Surprised



although it might have been all that unprotected sex they had afterwards that actually did it..


Wow i'm in a weird mood tonight Laughing
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Posted: 09-30-06 14:52pm

foxy wrote:
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i think it's kind of funny how .Jesus claimed to be the saviour &the son of .God (.I'm not saying he wasn't).. But if anyone today said they were the messiah, they'd be sent straight to the looney bin. Laughing


well it was the same thing back then.....Except he wasn't sent to the looney bin, he was sent to his death.



.Yes. But he had followers. He had believers. He went on doing his messiah thing for a lonnnnnng time before he was killed on the cross. My point is only that if someone claimed to be the messiah today, nobody would give him a fighting chance. Right into a straight jacket he'd go. Times are veeeery different, now.
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Posted: 09-30-06 15:15pm

arcadia wrote:
foxy wrote:
arcadia wrote:
i think it's kind of funny how .Jesus claimed to be the saviour &the son of .God (.I'm not saying he wasn't).. But if anyone today said they were the messiah, they'd be sent straight to the looney bin. Laughing


well it was the same thing back then.....Except he wasn't sent to the looney bin, he was sent to his death.



.Yes. But he had followers. He had believers. He went on doing his messiah thing for a lonnnnnng time before he was killed on the cross. My point is only that if someone claimed to be the messiah today, nobody would give him a fighting chance. Right into a straight jacket he'd go. Times are veeeery different, now.


according to the bible, jesus performed many miracles in public. I am assuming this is one of the key reasons he had followers. He didnt just 'claim" to be the messiah, he had things to back it up with.
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Posted: 09-30-06 15:34pm

nataliachick7 wrote:
arcadia wrote:
foxy wrote:
arcadia wrote:
i think it's kind of funny how .Jesus claimed to be the saviour &the son of .God (.I'm not saying he wasn't).. But if anyone today said they were the messiah, they'd be sent straight to the looney bin. Laughing


well it was the same thing back then.....Except he wasn't sent to the looney bin, he was sent to his death.



.Yes. But he had followers. He had believers. He went on doing his messiah thing for a lonnnnnng time before he was killed on the cross. My point is only that if someone claimed to be the messiah today, nobody would give him a fighting chance. Right into a straight jacket he'd go. Times are veeeery different, now.



according to the bible, jesus performed many miracles in public. I am assuming this is one of the key reasons he had followers. He didnt just 'claim" to be the messiah, he had things to back it up with.



.I'm not saying he didn't perform miracles or anything. We don't really know. I just think the whole concept is sort of screwy. Obviously .I'm not a .Christian, &.I'm not bashing .Christians at all or anything. It takes a tremendous amount of faith &devotion to be one. It's just definitely not for me. We don't know what really happened back then. All we have is the bible to go by. &.The bible was written by a bunch of men who weren't even around when .Jesus was alive.
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Posted: 09-30-06 15:43pm

arcadia wrote:
nataliachick7 wrote:
arcadia wrote:
foxy wrote:
arcadia wrote:
i think it's kind of funny how .Jesus claimed to be the saviour &the son of .God (.I'm not saying he wasn't).. But if anyone today said they were the messiah, they'd be sent straight to the looney bin. Laughing


well it was the same thing back then.....Except he wasn't sent to the looney bin, he was sent to his death.



.Yes. But he had followers. He had believers. He went on doing his messiah thing for a lonnnnnng time before he was killed on the cross. My point is only that if someone claimed to be the messiah today, nobody would give him a fighting chance. Right into a straight jacket he'd go. Times are veeeery different, now.



according to the bible, jesus performed many miracles in public. I am assuming this is one of the key reasons he had followers. He didnt just 'claim" to be the messiah, he had things to back it up with.



.I'm not saying he didn't perform miracles or anything. We don't really know. I just think the whole concept is sort of screwy. Obviously .I'm not a .Christian, &.I'm not bashing .Christians at all or anything. It takes a tremendous amount of faith &devotion to be one. It's just definitely not for me. We don't know what really happened back then. All we have is the bible to go by. &.The bible was written by a bunch of men who weren't even around when .Jesus was alive.


thats not true. Most of the new testament was written by apostles who were in fact around when jesus was. Not only were they around, they spent much time with him.
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Posted: 09-30-06 16:04pm

nataliachick7 wrote:
arcadia wrote:
nataliachick7 wrote:
arcadia wrote:
foxy wrote:
arcadia wrote:
i think it's kind of funny how .Jesus claimed to be the saviour &the son of .God (.I'm not saying he wasn't).. But if anyone today said they were the messiah, they'd be sent straight to the looney bin. Laughing


well it was the same thing back then.....Except he wasn't sent to the looney bin, he was sent to his death.



.Yes. But he had followers. He had believers. He went on doing his messiah thing for a lonnnnnng time before he was killed on the cross. My point is only that if someone claimed to be the messiah today, nobody would give him a fighting chance. Right into a straight jacket he'd go. Times are veeeery different, now.



according to the bible, jesus performed many miracles in public. I am assuming this is one of the key reasons he had followers. He didnt just 'claim" to be the messiah, he had things to back it up with.



.I'm not saying he didn't perform miracles or anything. We don't really know. I just think the whole concept is sort of screwy. Obviously .I'm not a .Christian, &.I'm not bashing .Christians at all or anything. It takes a tremendous amount of faith &devotion to be one. It's just definitely not for me. We don't know what really happened back then. All we have is the bible to go by. &.The bible was written by a bunch of men who weren't even around when .Jesus was alive.


thats not true. Most of the new testament was written by apostles who were in fact around when jesus was. Not only were they around, they spent much time with him.



.Perhaps some of the bible. But the book in whole was written over a course of 1,500 years.
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Posted: 09-30-06 19:10pm

rainfire1424 wrote:
smoothiesryummy wrote:
rainfire1424 wrote:
smoothiesryummy wrote:
there are numerous cases of girls becoming pregnant without having sex. One girl in my school a few years back had that happen to her. You see, what they do is "dry hump" with their boyfriends with their undies on and the little spermies somehow find a way to travel through mommy and daddy's undies into the girl's vagina and .B.O.O.M there's a virgin pregnancy. It sounds impossible, but it's happened.

I know this isn't saying whether girls can become pregnant immaculately, but they can without technically having sex.


yes technically without havcing sex

but not without sperm

secondly...





My friend .Jarmaine has lots of bruthas and sistaz.. All his friends are his bruthas and sistas.. Including me lol (and we are sooo obviously not related. (definate pigment difference lol) allthough I adore him to death..)

and yeah... Even if the bible *was* referring to blood siblings... Doesnt mean it couldnt have been referring to younger ones.


did I .F.R.E.A.K.I.N.G say without sperm???!!! I'm not stupid.


hun before u get all stupid with me.. I was making a point to the thread starter, not you.


okay i'm sorry. I'm just really moody today.
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Posted: 10-10-06 20:47pm

The whole thing about being a christain is having faith. Faith isn't easy to come by, and even for the most dedicated follower it can be tough. The bible is god words that he has given to man to give to the rest of the world. If you ever took the change to read it, you would find that all scripture comes from him and that it isn't just some guy from 1500 years ago making stuff up. I guess if your not a christian, you wouldn't have the faith to trust that.

Anyways, people foretold jesus' coming and new about him before he was ever born. Scripture tells us of simeon who was told his whole life by god that he would live to see the saviour and it wasn't untill his old age that jesus was born and he saw him in the temple when mary and joseph brought him to be circumised.

And to touch on jesus having brothers. Jesus for a fact had no younger brothers because god choose mary because of her faith and purity. I'm not sure of jesus having older brothers, but it could be referring to the brother type relationship that god calls us into.
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Posted: 10-10-06 20:57pm

Im sorry I find it difficult to put my soul and faith on the line and just believe that a book is real and true.

Christianity is a cult. Churches are all commercialized.

Thats my opinion.
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Posted: 10-10-06 21:01pm

I don't really know what to believe anymore, and it really frustrates me.

I was raised in the catholic faith all of my life, and recently I just have all these doubts.
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Posted: 10-10-06 21:03pm

I mean seriously...

**hey guys!!! Lets all get together, worship this here book, center our life choices around what it says, build places of worship to pray to some guy we've never seen, spend hundreds of years trying to find this boat that supposedly carried two of every animal..**

its rediculous.
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Posted: 10-10-06 22:01pm

Sandra .I definitely agree.
Christianity is so overplayed.
I can't stand church or organized religion.
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Posted: 10-11-06 03:48am

And now for the science bit.

A bit of back ground.
Female eggs (ova) contain an x chromosome.
Sperm comtain either an x or a y chromosome.
To have a baby you need at least two bits of information (typically an ovum and a spermatazoa) and at least one x chromosome.

So technically in a lab you could strip the nucleus out of an ovum and implant it in another ovum - you have the requirements of a human embryo.
The thing is you could only produce girls by this method. (xx = female)

i can't remember why but apparently this isn't posible to do with 2 sperm. I think it is to do with the structure of the ovum.

Obviously this is not a legal procedure as it is extrememly unethical - but it isn't impossible.
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