In response to yet another locked topic, I
would like to discuss father's rights when
it comes to abortion.
How do you feel about the father's choice?
For example, if a man impregnates a woman,
and doesn't want anything to do with the
child, would you give him until the "cut
off week" (24, isn't it?) to make some
kind of legal arrangement with the court
system and the mother as to what extent he
wants involvement in the child's life?
Say dad wants abortion, mom doesn't,
should he get a 'choice' whether or not to
be a parent? Mom does...Why not dad?
Why should he be forced to pay $ for a
child he didn't want?
i
why should he be forced to pay $ for a
child he didn't want?
Thoughts?
because he stuck his thing in someone
knowing it could potentially create a
child. Sex has consequences, and its too
bad if he doesnt like them.
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-07-06 21:52pm
nataliachick7
wrote:
birch
wrote:
i
why should he be forced to pay $ for a
child he didn't want?
Thoughts?
because he stuck his thing in someone
knowing it could potentially create a
child. Sex has consequences, and its too
bad if he doesnt like
them.
while I do not wish to leave anyone out,
this is more geared towards "pro-choice".
I'm trying to determine to what extent
"pro-choice" is for some.
Regardless, natalia, do you think this
hinges on the "parenting can be the
punishment for sex" concept? Do you
think anyone should be forced into
parenting, whether financially or
physically/emotionally? Do you think
that there are better alternatives, and if
so, what are they?
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Posted: 10-07-06 22:00pm
On second thought, and I don't mean this
to upset anyone who identifies with the
pro-life movement, can we get this topic
moved to the abortion pro-choice forum?
Mucho appreciatiato... Thank you...
I am pro choice. I think a woman should
have a choice-always.
Just because I am not a hardcore advocator
of baby killing doent mean I cant be pro
choice.
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yupmeagain
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-07-06 22:32pm
birch
wrote:
thoughts?
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birch wrote:
"yup" how do you feel about father's
choice?
Pregnancy? None. Not his body, not his
choice.
Birch wrote:
in your opinion, does he get a say as to
what extent he wants involved in the
child's life?
You can't force him to parent a child
against his will. You can force (legally)
for him to pay for the said child.
Birch wrote:
for example, if a man impregnates a woman,
and doesn't want anything to do with the
child, would you give him until the "cut
off week" (24, isn't it?) to make some
kind of legal arrangement with the court
system and the mother as to what extent he
wants involvement in the child's life?
If he doesn't want involvement, he has
anytime up to the woman asking for money
to get out of parenting. After he agrees
to support the said child, he can't get
out. And if he gets out, he can only get
back in with paying back child support
first.
you happen to be someone
that encourages abortions-that is
sad.
wrong as usual, anti choicer.
I encourage the woman to do what she
wants... Not what lying cunts like
you want her to do.
nataliapenis7
wrote:
i dont encourage them, but I
believe a woman has a right to
choose.
no you don't. It is obvious you are
anti choice. Others have noticed it as
well.
no, you seem to get off on anything
pertaining to a woman getting an abortion.
Its obvious that im antichoice because im
not a fucking psychopath like you?
Whatever
like I said, I believe a woman has a right
to choose.
no, you seem to get off on
anything pertaining to a woman getting an
abortion.
wrong again, idiot.
nataliachick7
wrote:
its obvious that im
antichoice because im not a fucking
psychopath like
you?
takes one to know one.
nataliachick7
wrote:
like I said, I believe a
woman has a right to
choose.
as long as it is before conception, right
fundie?
as long as it is before 20 weeks, like
most states laws are, fuckhead.
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-08-06 01:25am
yupmevirgin
wrote:
pregnancy? None. Not his body, not
his choice.
the fetus is actually half of his body so
he should have a say too.
If the man is forced into parenting then
it is like you always say, he is punished
for having sex.
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yupmeagain
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-08-06 01:27am
nightangel73
wrote:
the fetus is actually half
of his body so he should have a say
too.
actually, the fetus is half his dna.
Moron.
nightangel73
wrote:
if the man is forced into
parenting then it is like you always say,
he is punished for having
sex.
read my post, fool. I already stated I
believe a man should have an out.
Ignorant bitch.
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yupmeagain
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Posted: 10-08-06 01:28am
nataliachick7
wrote:
as long as it is before 20
weeks, like most states laws
are.
actually, dipshit, most states are about 26
weeks. And this statement, as usual,
proves you are not pro choice, unless it
is your moral choice.
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-08-06 01:34am
yupmeagain
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actually, the fetus is half his dna.
Moron.
not only dna, is flesh and blood too.
Every cell of the fetus body is half of
him. Go to school and take a biology
class please.
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Posted: 10-08-06 01:53am
I see nothing wrong with giving men the
option of opting out of parenthood in the
event his partner conceives a child he
does not want. If the woman wants the
baby so bad, she can care for it without
leeching child support off the guy. As
far as a man having a say in an abortion,
the outcome won't always be good. If a
man had the right to make a woman abort,
could he also have the right to make her
keep a child she did not want? How would
it work for men who intentionally screw
around without protection, knock a woman
up, and sign away parental rights?
This is an issue i'm sort of torn on.
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-08-06 04:18am
nataliachick7
wrote:
birch
wrote:
i
why should he be forced to pay $ for a
child he didn't want?
Thoughts?
because he stuck his thing in someone
knowing it could potentially create a
child. Sex has consequences, and its too
bad if he doesnt like
them.
a bit hypocritical don't you think, same
could be said for the woman, she opened
her legs knowing it could create a child,
as you say sex has consequences, or are
you being sexist and saying sex only has
consequences for the man.?
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Posted: 10-08-06 08:03am
cambion
wrote:
how would it work for men
who intentionally screw around without
protection, knock a woman up, and sign
away parental rights?
This is an issue i'm sort of torn
on.
not only that how about the women who
intentionally get pregnant to trap the
men? Happens a lot.
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-08-06 08:53am
birch
wrote:
in response to yet another
locked topic, I would like to discuss
father's rights when it comes to
abortion.
How do you feel about the father's choice?
For example, if a man impregnates a woman,
and doesn't want anything to do with the
child, would you give him until the "cut
off week" (24, isn't it?) to make some
kind of legal arrangement with the court
system and the mother as to what extent he
wants involvement in the child's life?
Say dad wants abortion, mom doesn't,
should he get a 'choice' whether or not to
be a parent? Mom does...Why not dad?
Why should he be forced to pay $ for a
child he didn't want?
Thoughts?
honestly unless a man has to carry a child
I believe a woman has 85% of the rights
here yes a child was created by both but
he doesnt have to carry it which allow a
woman choice to do whatever. If a man
wanted the child and the mothers doesnt
she has two choices, have it a give full
custody to dad or have an abortion. Now
if the father didnt want it and the mother
did then she had better get her butt in
gear she as well has choice completly cut
the dad off(meaning no child support)
collect child support and keep the kid,
adoption or abortion(which in this case I
highly doubt.
If a man has full custody of a child as
per a friends case, he is allowed to
collect child support from the mother!
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yupmeagain
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Re: Father's Rights Posted: 10-08-06 09:54am
nightangel73
wrote:
not only dna, is flesh and
blood too.
incorrect. Since when does sperm carry
flesh and blood?
i
why should he be forced to pay $ for a
child he didn't want?
Thoughts?
because he stuck his thing in someone
knowing it could potentially create a
child. Sex has consequences, and its
too bad if he doesnt like
them.
a bit hypocritical don't you think, same
could be said for the woman, she opened
her legs knowing it could create a child,
as you say sex has consequences, or are
you being sexist and saying sex only has
consequences for the
man.?
what about that is hypocritical? fool.
This post is about fathers rights, and
whether they should be able to back out.
If the mother wants the baby and the
father doesnt, maybe he should have
thought about that before his stuck his
thing in her.
