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Posted: 10-27-06 21:42pm
I think you should do whatever you think
is right. Sometimes the stress of
pregnancy and quiting smoking can cause
problems (like extremly high blood
presure) and do more harm than good.. But
of course everyone knows that you shouldnt
smoke while you are prego because it says
it on the side of every freaking box. At
the same time if you can at least cut down
to the bare minumum it would be best..
But its not going to be extremly
dentramental to the child if you keep
smoking.. Babies are born addicted to
crack and manage to grow and function just
as any other child
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Sail Away
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Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 1170 Location: Missouri
Posted: 10-27-06 21:44pm
babygirlsmami
wrote:
i think you should do
whatever you think is right. Sometimes
the stress of pregnancy and quiting
smoking can cause problems (like extremly
high blood presure) and do more harm than
good.. But of course everyone knows that
you shouldnt smoke while you are prego
because it says it on the side of every
freaking box. At the same time if you
can at least cut down to the bare minumum
it would be best.. But its not going to
be extremly dentramental to the child if
you keep smoking.. Babies are born
addicted to crack and manage to grow and
function just as any other
child
yes, but just because they were born fine
doesn't mean it's right.
i think you should do
whatever you think is right. Sometimes
the stress of pregnancy and quiting
smoking can cause problems (like extremly
high blood presure) and do more harm than
good.. But of course everyone knows that
you shouldnt smoke while you are prego
because it says it on the side of every
freaking box. At the same time if you
can at least cut down to the bare minumum
it would be best.. But its not going to
be extremly dentramental to the child if
you keep smoking.. Babies are born
addicted to crack and manage to grow and
function just as any other
child
actually, new studies demonstrate that
smoking less cigarettes isnt any better
than smoking many cigarettes. It is just
as harmful to you and the baby. Second of
all, this is just ignorance. Yes it can
be extremely detrimental to the baby.
Here are a few examples:
"babies whose mothers smoked during
pregnancy are up to three times as likely
to die from sudden infant death syndrome
(sids) as babies of nonsmokers."
"can smoking cause pregnancy
complications?
Smoking has been associated with a number
of pregnancy complications. Smoking
cigarettes appears to double a woman’s
risk of developing placental problems. 1
these include placenta previa (low-lying
placenta that covers part or all of the
opening of the uterus) and placental
abruption (in which the placenta peels
away, partially or almost completely, from
the uterine wall before delivery). Both
can result in heavy bleeding during
delivery that can endanger mother and
baby, although a cesarean delivery can
prevent most deaths. Placental problems
contribute to the slightly increased risk
of stillbirth that is associated with
smoking.
How can smoking harm the newborn?
Smoking nearly doubles a woman’s risk of
having a low-birthweight baby. In 2002,
12.2 percent of babies born to smokers in
the united states were of low birthweight
(less than 5½ pounds), compared to 7.5
percent of babies of nonsmokers.2 low
birthweight can result from poor growth
before birth, preterm delivery or a
combination of both. Smoking has long
been known to slow fetal growth. Studies
also suggest that smoking increases the
risk of preterm delivery 37 weeks of
gestation). Premature and low-birthweight
babies face an increased risk of serious
health problems during the newborn period,
chronic lifelong disabilities (such as
cerebral palsy, mental retardation and
learning problems) and even death.
there are many things that can happen, so
please dont post that smoking wont harm
the baby.
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wr17
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Posted: 10-27-06 22:17pm
Tanya needs her own talk show! I love
reading your posts, girl!
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MeaghanMorphine
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People Like You Make Me Mad. Posted: 10-27-06 22:29pm
babygirlsmami
wrote:
i think you should do
whatever you think is right. Sometimes
the stress of pregnancy and quiting
smoking can cause problems (like extremly
high blood presure) and do more harm than
good.. But of course everyone knows that
you shouldnt smoke while you are prego
because it says it on the side of every
freaking box. At the same time if you
can at least cut down to the bare minumum
it would be best.. But its not going to
be extremly dentramental to the child if
you keep smoking.. Babies are born
addicted to crack and manage to grow and
function just as any other
child
so maybe your kid didn't turn out like a
lot of kids with smoking mothers. But,
are you a nitwit? Babies who are born
addicted to crack or other drugs have to
go through the same rehab feelings the
mother would too (if she ever got off of
the dang drugs). Therefore causing it to
be terrible for the child. Are you trying
to make your child live in hell going
through all of that? And for smoking it's
proven that (and this is being taken
straight from a parenting textbook):
- tobacco smoking causes: immediate
effects= reduces quality of sperm, low
birth weight, higher incident of cleft
palate, immature lungs, great chance of
miscarriage, and a higher incidence of
sids.
Long-term effects= irritablitiy, attention
deficits, behavioural problems, behind
others in math and reading, smaller in
statute, asthma and allergies, more ear
infections.
So do you honestly want you child to have
any of this?! And to top it off, here's
the drug effects:
immediate effects= defective sperm and
ova, still birth, miscarriage, premature
birth, birth defects, brain damage, damage
to heart and other organs, and the newborn
(as i've stated before) are addicted to
the drugs too.
Long-term effects= irreversible brain
damage, long-term care required, lowered
immune function, may lead to vision and
hearing impairment, may be missing limbs,
learnin and behavioural problems and
emotional problems.
And to top it all off, how do you think
your child would feel if they found out
their mom was a druggie or a smoker while
they were pregnant with them. And also
while your pregnant, your baby should come
first and your primary concern should be
your child and if they are healthy!
People like you make me mad. Screw having
the right to smoke and do drugs during
pregnancy, do you want to honestly kill
your child or injure it? Ugh. I'm done
for now.
Re: People Like You Make Me Mad. Posted: 10-27-06 22:34pm
meaghanmorphine
wrote:
babygirlsmami
wrote:
i think you should do
whatever you think is right. Sometimes
the stress of pregnancy and quiting
smoking can cause problems (like extremly
high blood presure) and do more harm than
good.. But of course everyone knows
that you shouldnt smoke while you are
prego because it says it on the side of
every freaking box. At the same time if
you can at least cut down to the bare
minumum it would be best.. But its not
going to be extremly dentramental to the
child if you keep smoking.. Babies are
born addicted to crack and manage to grow
and function just as any other
child
so maybe your kid didn't turn out like a
lot of kids with smoking mothers. But,
are you a nitwit? Babies who are born
addicted to crack or other drugs have to
go through the same rehab feelings the
mother would too (if she ever got off of
the dang drugs). Therefore causing it to
be terrible for the child. Are you
trying to make your child live in hell
going through all of that? And for
smoking it's proven that (and this is
being taken straight from a parenting
textbook):
- tobacco smoking causes: immediate
effects= reduces quality of sperm, low
birth weight, higher incident of cleft
palate, immature lungs, great chance of
miscarriage, and a higher incidence of
sids.
Long-term effects= irritablitiy, attention
deficits, behavioural problems, behind
others in math and reading, smaller in
statute, asthma and allergies, more ear
infections.
So do you honestly want you child to have
any of this?! And to top it off, here's
the drug effects:
immediate effects= defective sperm and
ova, still birth, miscarriage, premature
birth, birth defects, brain damage, damage
to heart and other organs, and the newborn
(as i've stated before) are addicted to
the drugs too.
Long-term effects= irreversible brain
damage, long-term care required, lowered
immune function, may lead to vision and
hearing impairment, may be missing limbs,
learnin and behavioural problems and
emotional problems.
And to top it all off, how do you think
your child would feel if they found out
their mom was a druggie or a smoker while
they were pregnant with them. And also
while your pregnant, your baby should come
first and your primary concern should be
your child and if they are healthy!
People like you make me mad. Screw
having the right to smoke and do drugs
during pregnancy, do you want to honestly
kill your child or injure it? Ugh. I'm
done for now.
thank you.
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cyn
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 87
Posted: 10-27-06 22:48pm
If you cant quit your own selfish need for
your flesh and blood baby then you need to
do some more indepeath thinking...I am by
no means trying to put you down or make
you feel low...But can you think ahead to
were the damage will already be done and
your child has asma and cant breath on his
own very well without an inhaler all his
freakin life becuase its to hard for you
to quit! Let me tell i'm not even
pregnant yet and I did smoke I love to
do...But I can not live knowing I put my
son or daughter in the postion that they
are now in! Get gum get a freakin
hobby...Drink more water anything....Just
cause the doc says its ok doesnt mean they
can track it all! Believe me I freakin
know!!!! Be a smart mother show give your
child the best life possible not take away
or add the problems that they will
geneticly already! Put your self aside!!!
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oh_mommy
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Posted: 10-27-06 23:18pm
what!!! Just because the baby isnt born
dosnt mean it has no rights? What about
the day before its born? It has no rights
because it hasnt made its journey outta
you? Thats fricken stupid.. You know a
babys heart starts beating when ur 3 weeks
prego?
In my oppionion when you have a heartbeat
you are living and because your living u
have rights.. So your baby would have the
right to live in a non smoking invorment..
Yes smoking is hard to quit (hence why I
never started smoking so I dont understand
fully) but think about this.. Most babys
that were born into a smoking inviroment
have asthma.. I have asthma and its not a
pretty thing... And its not cheap.. When
I was younger my parents had to buy me a
resperator because the smoking in the
house was making me have asthma attacks
and I could never keep up with the other
kids in gym class because my body couldnt
handle it.. If I never had asthma I would
be so much more fit...
Do you want to make it so ur kid cant keep
up in gym class? Do you want to buy
expensive puffers? Or a resperator?
Anything like that? No? Well then dont
smoke.. Talk to ur doctor and maybe he
can help u think of a way to cut smoking
and the stress from quitting...
And trust me being hooked up for a machine
for a hour a day isnt fun.. And it sucked
major ass... So please dont smoke, for
your babys sake and right..
I am neutral on the subject of smoking, my
parents smoked like a chimney when she was
pregnant with me and my brother and
sister, luckily we all turned out fine,
there are cases where it isnt like that,
but if u have an addiction it is hard to
quit even if u know it jeopordizes your
health, people said that ur selfish when
you have an eating disorder, ive been
there done that and I know peoeple with
these addictions whether it be smoking,
eating or not eating , gambling its not
neccasarily selfish but once youve been
doing something for so long it becomes a
part of your life and you dont know how to
handle yourself without it. With the
right help though I think it can be done.
But its also a matter of wanting to. And
whether or not you smoke or dont smoke
doesnt determine what kind of parent you
are gonna be. I dont critisize my mom
saying shes a horrible parent cuz she
decided not to quit smoking when she was
pregnant with me. I dont know what she
was going through when she was pregnant
with me. I am fine now and so is my
brother and sister so eh , crappy choice
but it wasnt mine. But im not gonna
belittle people just because they are
smoking when they are pregnant or
something .
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Becky
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Posted: 10-28-06 01:58am
Smoking in the same house as your baby
when s/he is out of the womb is just as
selfish as smoking whilst pregnant.
anyone who smokes in the same house
as their child is beyond selfish and I
don't care who I offend.
Passive smoking can have serious health
issues to a child. I would never
let my kids be around a smoky environment.
I have respect for them and their
health.
Part of being a mother is putting your
child first. If you are too selfish to
quit smoking (esp cannibas- that is just
messed up if it is in the same house as
your child) then you are a selfish b*tch
who shouldn't of had kids!
Don't try and justify it by saying 'i
close the door' or 'i do it when they're
not in the house' smoke can say in the air
for hours after its been smoked so your
child will breathe it in!
Sorry but thats my opinion and I feel
strongly about it.
smoking in the same house as
your baby when s/he is out of the womb is
just as selfish as smoking whilst
pregnant. anyone who smokes in
the same house as their child is beyond
selfish and I don't care who I offend.
Passive smoking can have serious health
issues to a child. I would never
let my kids be around a smoky
environment. I have respect for them and
their health.
Part of being a mother is putting your
child first. If you are too selfish to
quit smoking (esp cannibas- that is just
messed up if it is in the same house as
your child) then you are a selfish b*tch
who shouldn't of had kids!
Don't try and justify it by saying 'i
close the door' or 'i do it when they're
not in the house' smoke can say in the air
for hours after its been smoked so your
child will breathe it in!
Sorry but thats my opinion and I feel
strongly about it.
i hate when they smoke in the same house
the kids are in, I was living at my
parents when my son was born they smoked
outside. But then they thought they would
be sneaky and smoke when he was in bed and
iw as to but I could smell it right down
the hall and my door was always opened a
crack because my brother broke it. It
just pissed me off that she can smoke
outside when he was awake but to lazy to
go outside to smoke at night. Now they
are back to smoking in the house since no
more little kids there but its like the
smell is still in the house , smoking
outside kids or not I think is better ,
the house dont stink that way. Hubby used
to say well the doors are shut I was like
u can walk outside for 5 min lol its not
that hard to do, he said he was gonna quit
but then went and bought a carton and
split it with his friend so yeah lmao but
he smokes outside / even in the middle of
winter his ass will be on the front steps
.
I dont neccasarily fidn smoking selfish
though and that they hate there children
but they can make sacrafices such as
smoking outside etc so as to not endanger
the childs health, my parents never did
that with us but hten again I was to
little to understand anything at that
time . Most of the studies are just that
studies, not always right, for every
person, the smallest baby my mom had was
my brother at 5lbs 6oz and my sister 6lbs
5 oz and I was 7lbs 10oz , her sister who
smoked alot as well at an almost 9lb
child. Theres risks to anything pretty
much. Studies are there for a reason I
know but it doesnt mean every woman that
smokes is gonna havea 5lb child or less.
Or respiratory problems. But its up to
the mother to do what they think is best
and wahtt he dr thinks is a good idea as
to not endanger the childs health because
some people are really addicted to smoking
and would get really stressed if they quit
and that could possibly cause them to
misscarry etc or cause more problems to
the child then the smoking itself would.
Yeah the drs would love for everyone to
quit smoking but they also wanna make sure
the benefits outweigh the risks as well.
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Becky
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Posted: 10-28-06 02:55am
Of course smokers are selfish- they don't
consider/care that other people around
them might not want to breathe in their
smoke they just go right ahead and light
up near people.
Everytime a smoker lights up near me and I
was there first I always say- 'please
could you move away I don't want to
breathe in your smoke'
they should at least ask if you don't
mind. God it gets me angry!
of course smokers are
selfish- they don't consider/care that
other people around them might not want to
breathe in their smoke they just go right
ahead and light up near people.
Everytime a smoker lights up near me and I
was there first I always say- 'please
could you move away I don't want to
breathe in your smoke'
they should at least ask if you don't
mind. God it gets me
angry!
ya my mom is one of
those that doesnt care, my dad smokes as
well but he wouldnt do it at a resturaunt
or something. Sucks about germany
everyone smokes and smokes in resturaunts
wherever aroudn there own little kids etc
so eh cant get away from it but we dont go
out much either. My hubby isnt one of
them either tthank goodness he know
sbetter lol
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Becky
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Posted: 10-28-06 03:20am
tinkinpink84
wrote:
beckster06
wrote:
of course smokers are
selfish- they don't consider/care that
other people around them might not want to
breathe in their smoke they just go right
ahead and light up near people.
Everytime a smoker lights up near me and I
was there first I always say- 'please
could you move away I don't want to
breathe in your smoke'
they should at least ask if you don't
mind. God it gets me
angry!
ya my mom is one of
those that doesnt care, my dad smokes as
well but he wouldnt do it at a resturaunt
or something. Sucks about germany
everyone smokes and smokes in resturaunts
wherever aroudn there own little kids etc
so eh cant get away from it but we dont go
out much either. My hubby isnt one of
them either tthank goodness he know
sbetter lol
the .U.K are trying to ban smoking. Most
of ireland has banned smoking in public
places and alot of pubs in the uk are now
smoke free.
of course smokers are
selfish- they don't consider/care that
other people around them might not want to
breathe in their smoke they just go right
ahead and light up near people.
Everytime a smoker lights up near me and I
was there first I always say- 'please
could you move away I don't want to
breathe in your smoke'
they should at least ask if you don't
mind. God it gets me
angry!
ya my mom is one of
those that doesnt care, my dad smokes as
well but he wouldnt do it at a resturaunt
or something. Sucks about germany
everyone smokes and smokes in resturaunts
wherever aroudn there own little kids etc
so eh cant get away from it but we dont go
out much either. My hubby isnt one of
them either tthank goodness he know
sbetter lol
i never knew that, maybe germany will get
the hint as well lol, I know in florida it
is not allowed and I had goten used to
that then moving here it is totally
different, they got ciggarette machines in
neighborhoods here its crazy
the .U.K are trying to ban smoking. Most
of ireland has banned smoking in public
places and alot of pubs in the uk are now
smoke free.
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AlliE_18
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Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 2129 Location: uk
Posted: 10-28-06 06:38am
100% aggree with everything tanya said,
and everyone else's similar comments!
Jess/diamondz is just trying to make
herself feel better cos shes guilty of
being that selfish smoking while pregnant!
Its disgusting really jess. You can go
on and on about this cr@p and that cr@p
all day long if you like, but it doesnt
change what you did, it does not justify
it at all! You were selfish and careless
towards both your unborn babies in that
respect, and just because they were born
healthy enough, doesnt mean they wouldnt
have been healthier if you hadnt smoked
while pregnant, and it doesnt mean they
wont develop health problems in their
futures, like asthma which often happens
when the child gets a bit older!
Jess you're 22 right? That's old enough
to know better! You're not 16 anymore,
you should be setting a good example to
younger moms, yet teens on here behave
like better moms than you already and some
of them haven't even given birth yet! I
bet you smoke around them in the home/car
too...Poor kids...I hope you start putting
them .F.I.R.S.T soon!
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Posted: 10-28-06 06:45am
allie_18
wrote:
100% aggree with everything
tanya said, and everyone else's similar
comments!
Jess/diamondz is just trying to make
herself feel better cos shes guilty of
being that selfish smoking while pregnant!
Its disgusting really jess. You can go
on and on about this cr@p and that cr@p
all day long if you like, but it doesnt
change what you did, it does not justify
it at all! You were selfish and careless
towards both your unborn babies in that
respect, and just because they were born
healthy enough, doesnt mean they wouldnt
have been healthier if you hadnt smoked
while pregnant, and it doesnt mean they
wont develop health problems in their
futures, like asthma which often happens
when the child gets a bit older!
Jess you're 22 right? That's old enough
to know better! You're not 16 anymore,
you should be setting a good example to
younger moms, yet teens on here behave
like better moms than you already and some
of them haven't even given birth yet! I
bet you smoke around them in the home/car
too...Poor kids...I hope you start putting
them .F.I.R.S.T
soon!
i agree 100%. There is no excuses.
People just make them to try and justify
it. Its sick
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Kia
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
Posted: 10-28-06 07:49am
Whilst a heart may begn beating at 3
weeks, 5 weeks or whenever depending on
who you listen to, technically in a
scientific sense an embryo, fetus (call it
what you will) becomes a person when it is
able (with or without medical assistance)
able to live with out a host body (ie the
mother).
That is fact not opinion.
However, that is a debate for another
forum not here.
The smoking issue I disagree 100%.
I smoked from the age of 7 why? Because
my parents did too so I copied, sure I
didn't inhale or anything then. And it
was only the odd stolen ciggie here n
there.
I started smoking properly at 12 by 14 I
was smoking upto 20 a day.
5 years ago I had a drinking problem.
5 years ago I could drink a litre of
cointreau or aftershox. I could drink
pint after pint, bottle after bottle of
vodka.
I also took a hell of a lot of speed and
ecstacy.
I was smoking damn near 50 a day.
4 years ago last month I quit.
I realised what I was doing and I quit.
Not just quit smoking, I quit drinking and
I pretty much cut out drugs completely.
All at the same time.
I never looked back.
I chose not to buy any more ciggarettes, I
chose not to buy alcohol. Why? Because I
am a person and I have free will - I made
a choice to buy, I made a choice not to
buy - and what I don't have I can't
drink/smoke/take.
So when people tell me they "can't" quit I
pity them, pity them because they have no
will power, because they don't see
themselves as a person with choices.
The answer is simple - don't buy any - end
of.
All these companies are making mega bucks
by "promoting" these quit smoking aids -
what a load of trash - it's a quick buck
for them.
I took my last pill and wrap of whizz the
night I got pregnant. I was scared stiff
that, that might have harmed my child, but
sure as he|| glad I hadn't taken any more
since and hopeful that it would have
cleared my body before implanting.
So yeah I know about quitting trust me.
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JUNGLE JUICE
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Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 82 Location: Barbados
Re: Smoking While Prego Posted: 10-28-06 08:13am
hannahsbaby
wrote:
i am feeling very guilty and
ashamed about still smoking!!! I have
tried to quit and it is very hard I am 18
weeks along and the baby is doing fine but
its mamma isnt please give some tips of
how to quit and stay quit!
smokers are weak,smokers
smell,smokers are idiotic fools,i cannot
beleive that you are so stupid and
heartless to smoke that crap in
pregnancy,i h a t e you 4 that
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