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Abortion Is Not Legalized homicide Posted: 11-04-06 15:35pm
jungle juice
wrote:
legalised
homicide
abortion is not legalized homicide, by
human and charter of rights homicide is
commited when you kill a person a fetus is
not a person till brith in which case it
becomes a child/neonate.
>.Your a hypocrite
you say your prolife but you promote
abortion
jungle juice
wrote:
but in the uk 24 weeks is
aloud,and legal.
Fly to uk hun
x
make up your mind, abortion can saves
lives and I treasure the mothers life "who
is a person" then someone who isnt anyday
just like i'd put my kids ahead of any
fetus!
Anyways I loved that post about you
wanting an abortion it was flipping
beautiful hypocrite!
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Jules
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Posted: 11-04-06 17:03pm
Yeah, I think it's been pretty much
established that this person is a troll
and does not represent most pro-lifers (or
pro-choicers for that matter).
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Diamondsz & Purest Green Posted: 11-04-06 17:52pm
I agree with you both
100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Abortion Is Not Legalized Not a Nice Act Posted: 02-18-07 14:02pm
Unless you were raped and got pregnant
abortion is homicide. It still a life
that you could of prevented by using birth
control or condoms. If you laid in your
bed you make it. Its not the babys fault.
It your fault and you would not be in
that predicument if you had done something
to prevent it. Killing inncoent life is
wrong. They derserve a chance too! How
would you of felt if you were aborted.
Not your fault your mom got pregnant, but
hey give you a chance right! Give your
baby a chance.
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Re: Abortion Is Not Legalized Not a Nice Act Posted: 02-18-07 14:23pm
sheri1981
wrote:
unless you were raped and
got pregnant abortion is not a nice act.
It still a life that you could of
prevented by using birth control or
condoms. If you laid in your bed you
make it. Its not the babys fault. It
your fault and you would not be in that
predicument if you had done something to
prevent it. Killing inncoent life is
wrong. They derserve a chance too! How
would you of felt if you were aborted.
Not your fault your mom got pregnant, but
hey give you a chance right! Give your
baby a
chance.
it's not the baby's fault its mother was
raped either so why is abortion in that
scenario ok to you?
I'm playing devil's advocate here.
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Re: Abortion Is Not Legalized Not a Nice Act Posted: 02-18-07 16:23pm
sheri1981
wrote:
unless you were raped and
got pregnant abortion is not a nice act.
It still a life that you could of
prevented by using birth control or
condoms. If you laid in your bed you
make it. Its not the babys fault. It
your fault and you would not be in that
predicument if you had done something to
prevent it. Killing inncoent life is
wrong. They derserve a chance too! How
would you of felt if you were aborted.
Not your fault your mom got pregnant, but
hey give you a chance right! Give your
baby a
chance.
it is never murder because you cannot
murder that which is not a
person.
No, it is not the fetus' fault, but it is
also not the woman's fault that:
1. The condom broke
2. The pills didn't work
3. She's ignorant of pregnancy because of
her religion (the movie "saved", anyone?)
4. The iud slid out, or failed
completely
5. Her body is resitant to horomones
6. She's ignorant of pregnancy because
the subject of sex is taboo
i would not feel anything if I had been
aborted. I never would have attained the
cognitive level to be able to think, or
feel.
To actually answer that question
seriously... I would not mind if my
mother had aborted me, because I know she
would have been making a hard, but good
desicion based on the circumstances.
Thing is, I was a planned pregnancy. I was
not an accident.
My older sibling was an accident, and s/he
was aborted when my mother was in college.
I deeply respect her for this desicion.
I would not exist if she had not done so.
Everything we are is built upon out past
experiences and desicions, and on the past
experiences and desicions of those before
us. I find this absoultely staggerng and
amazing.
An unwantd pregnancy never deserves a
chance. If it is given one, then it is
very very lucky and fortunate... Maybe.
If it lives a good life, then it was
lucky. If it ends up in the poor house,
abused, or tossed from foster home to
foster home, then i'd say its mom should
have made the .Better .Choice: abortion.
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Posted: 02-18-07 16:25pm
It still a life that you could of
prevented by using birth control or
condoms
ummm..I got pregnant using an iud, which
is just as effective as sterilization...
Bc and condoms do fail, I work in an
aboriton clinic, and I see a lot. Maybe
bc has not failed you, and I am happy for
that, but it has failed others.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 02-18-07 16:33pm
Carifairy, stick quotation marks around
that top half of your post; otherwise you
look schizophrenic!
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Re: Abortion Is Not Legalized Not a Nice Act Posted: 02-18-07 16:37pm
sheri1981
wrote:
unless you were raped and
got pregnant abortion is not a nice act.
It still a life that you could of
prevented by using birth control or
condoms. If you laid in your bed you
make it. Its not the babys fault. It
your fault and you would not be in that
predicument if you had done something to
prevent it. Killing inncoent life is
wrong. They derserve a chance too! How
would you of felt if you were aborted.
Not your fault your mom got pregnant, but
hey give you a chance right! Give your
baby a
chance.
birth control fails, .Sheri1981. And
fetuses conceived by rape are also
innocent...So which is it? Either the
fetus deserves a shot because it's
innocent, or mom can abort because she's
innocent.
If you choose to say she can abort because
she's innocent, then that negates your
whole "killing innocent life wrong"
silliness. If you choose to say abortion
m*rders her fetus and she should keep the
pregnancy, then you are no better than the
rapist.
You can't be prolife and "win" with
rape.
Welcome to the debate.
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seerah
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Posted: 05-01-08 21:05pm
abortion should not be legalised?
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Re: Abortion Is Not Legalized homicide Posted: 05-01-08 22:50pm
diamondsz
wrote:
jungle juice
wrote:
legalised
homicide
abortion IS homicide: abortion kills a
baby, which is a person. Slavery was still
enslaving someone even though THEY weren't
considered people at the time; no matter
what you think it IS homicide.
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Posted: 05-02-08 00:31am
I don't believe the non-viable fetus is an
independent person. Thus, early term
abortion is not homicide - it is the woman
exercising her right to not have the fetus
inside of her. It just so happens that
early on, this right results in the death
of the fetus because it cannot survive
outside of the womb.
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Re: Abortion Is Not Legalized homicide Posted: 05-29-08 10:22am
jujujellybean
wrote:
diamondsz
wrote:
jungle juice
wrote:
legalised
homicide
abortion IS homicide: abortion kills a
baby, which is a person. Slavery was still
enslaving someone even though THEY weren't
considered people at the time; no matter
what you think it IS
homicide.
You are contradicting yourself
Slavery is against human right by forcing
someone against their will you are
enslaving them to their destiny, which is
wrong.
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cmyked
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Posted: 05-29-08 16:35pm
Homicide is defined as the illegal death
of a born person. Sometimes the unborn
counts when a pregnant woman is killed;
but I don't know the specifics. If I could
define that law, it would probably count
the death of the fetus as double homicide
if the fetus was 27 weeks old or older
since it is viable.
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Posted: 05-29-08 16:52pm
cmyked
wrote:
Homicide is defined as the
illegal death of a born person. Sometimes
the unborn counts when a pregnant woman is
killed; but I don't know the specifics. If
I could define that law, it would probably
count the death of the fetus as double
homicide if the fetus was 27 weeks old or
older since it is
viable.
From what I've read, in some places, the
unborn does count as a homicide when the
fetus is considered viable. I'm not sure
how many weeks old the fetus has to be,
though. I think it varies depending on the
area. I probably need to research this
because I'm also curious as to what
happens if someone kills a woman's unborn
baby but that unborn baby is not viable.
Like, what could they get the attacker
for? Only for assault?
(Just to nitpick, not all homicide is
illegal, like the death penalty and
killing in self-defense.)
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