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Abortions In the First Trimester
Posted: 11-09-06 06:44am

Many people think that all the photos on those 'anti-choice' sites are of late term stillbirths.

Go to www.Clinicquotes.Com and click on "pictures" for pictures of abortions in the first trimester. If you are pro-choice, and so sure of yourself, what have you to fear by going to this site?
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Re: Abortions In the First Trimester
Posted: 11-09-06 08:18am

oblina wrote:
many people think that all the photos on those 'anti-choice' sites are of late term stillbirths.

Go to www.Clinicquotes.Com and click on "pictures" for pictures of abortions in the first trimester. If you are pro-choice, and so sure of yourself, what have you to fear by going to this site?


i saw what looked like tiny pink frog legs, flippers, and in one picture, there was a microscopic pair of frog legs with a tail. I'm not seeing anything that deterrs me from being pro-choice, as i've known for a long time what the different stages of development look like. The subject fascinated e as a child. At least the pictures seem to be from the right stage of development.
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Posted: 11-09-06 09:44am

I don't understand why this should be considered a deterrent to women seeking abortion. Most women know what an abortion entails, so why should pieces of an aborted fetus be heart-wrenching? Also, are pro-lifers so lacking in lives that they need to go rummaging through dumpsters to find aborted fetus limbs half the size of dimes?

Abortion might not be a beautiful thing, but that doesn't mean it's unnecessary. I would rather see an unwanted child aborted than be born and either stuck in a foster home or kept with resentful parents who neglect or abuse it. But I guess as long as that baby gets born, it can be neglected and beaten as much as the parents see fit and that's perfectly fine. I know this isn't the case with all kids, but you can't deny that it happens.
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Re: Abortions In the First Trimester
Posted: 11-09-06 10:36am

oblina wrote:
many people think that all the photos on those 'anti-choice' sites are of late term stillbirths.

Go to www.Clinicquotes.Com and click on "pictures" for pictures of abortions in the first trimester. If you are pro-choice, and so sure of yourself, what have you to fear by going to this site?


have no fear and still wont change my views sorry Rolling Eyes

your talking to the wrong gang!
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Posted: 11-09-06 16:45pm

cambion wrote:
i don't understand why this should be considered a deterrent to women seeking abortion. Most women know what an abortion entails, so why should pieces of an aborted fetus be heart-wrenching? Also, are pro-lifers so lacking in lives that they need to go rummaging through dumpsters to find aborted fetus limbs half the size of dimes?

Abortion might not be a beautiful thing, but that doesn't mean it's unnecessary. I would rather see an unwanted child aborted than be born and either stuck in a foster home or kept with resentful parents who neglect or abuse it. But I guess as long as that baby gets born, it can be neglected and beaten as much as the parents see fit and that's perfectly fine. I know this isn't the case with all kids, but you can't deny that it happens.


cambion, you have shuichi and yuki from gravitation in your userpic! If you watch that, then you know where I got my username... Lol.
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Re: Abortions In the First Trimester
Posted: 11-10-06 09:10am

oblina wrote:
many people think that all the photos on those 'anti-choice' sites are of late term stillbirths.

Go to www.Clinicquotes.Com and click on "pictures" for pictures of abortions in the first trimester. If you are pro-choice, and so sure of yourself, what have you to fear by going to this site?

your point??
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Posted: 11-10-06 12:07pm

eiri wrote:
cambion wrote:
i don't understand why this should be considered a deterrent to women seeking abortion. Most women know what an abortion entails, so why should pieces of an aborted fetus be heart-wrenching? Also, are pro-lifers so lacking in lives that they need to go rummaging through dumpsters to find aborted fetus limbs half the size of dimes?


Abortion might not be a beautiful thing, but that doesn't mean it's unnecessary. I would rather see an unwanted child aborted than be born and either stuck in a foster home or kept with resentful parents who neglect or abuse it. But I guess as long as that baby gets born, it can be neglected and beaten as much as the parents see fit and that's perfectly fine. I know this isn't the case with all kids, but you can't deny that it happens.


cambion, you have shuichi and yuki from gravitation in your userpic! If you watch that, then you know where I got my username... Lol.



omg someone else whos watched gravitation that show is awesome sad to say an ova though loves"shuichi" thinking bout dying my hair pink

sorry off topic
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Posted: 11-10-06 13:33pm

diamondsz wrote:
eiri wrote:
cambion wrote:
i don't understand why this should be considered a deterrent to women seeking abortion. Most women know what an abortion entails, so why should pieces of an aborted fetus be heart-wrenching? Also, are pro-lifers so lacking in lives that they need to go rummaging through dumpsters to find aborted fetus limbs half the size of dimes?

Abortion might not be a beautiful thing, but that doesn't mean it's unnecessary. I would rather see an unwanted child aborted than be born and either stuck in a foster home or kept with resentful parents who neglect or abuse it. But I guess as long as that baby gets born, it can be neglected and beaten as much as the parents see fit and that's perfectly fine. I know this isn't the case with all kids, but you can't deny that it happens.


cambion, you have shuichi and yuki from gravitation in your userpic! If you watch that, then you know where I got my username... Lol.


omg someone else whos watched gravitation that show is awesome sad to say an ova though loves"shuichi" thinking bout dying my hair pink

sorry off topic


thought about it? Lol, I did it one year, to cosplay at a convention! Yes, back on topic indeed!

Quality of life is really, a very important consideration.
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Posted: 11-11-06 11:24am

You know, eiri, I wondered if you were a gravitation fan when I saw your username. I'm pleasantly surprised to see some other fans on here; I recently got to watch the ova episodes and I loved them - and so began the start of my christmas list.

Hey if anyone has $500 lying around needing to be spent, there's some animation cels from the ova episodes for sale on ebay - one of them being dominatrix yuki :d okay, I don't expect anyone to actually buy them, but still...

*end off-topic-ness*
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Posted: 11-11-06 12:04pm

Ooh, someone other than me likes anime here. Sweet.

Back to the topic:

.I'm pro-choice, and feel no need to look at that site. Why? Because pro-choice doesn't mean you like abortion. It means you feel a woman has the right to choose. Seeing a picture of a cut-up fetus is morbid, but has nothing to do with pro-choice. Pro-abortion, maybe, but not pro-choice.
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Posted: 11-11-06 14:00pm

cambion wrote:
you know, eiri, I wondered if you were a gravitation fan when I saw your username. I'm pleasantly surprised to see some other fans

*end off-topic-ness*


i loved gravitation I wish it had more episodes would have bought them all they are pretty expensive for an ova though.....

Another show I found like gravitation was sukisho,kaleido star &aquarian age!

K now im done nor more off topic
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Posted: 11-11-06 14:49pm

I'm so surprised so many of you like anime too!

Kaleido star is the most adorable thing I have ever seen and I luuurve it. We have anime network on demand, so i've seen every episode that's come over so far of season one and (for some reason) they were playing part of season two at the same time, so i've seen a bunch of that, too!

Alright gals, whisper me and each other for further discussion of the yays of anime!
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Posted: 11-11-06 20:24pm

I totally agree with you .Aya .Miyaki 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 11-11-06 20:33pm

I just had to look at the pictures. Don't know why.

Made me think about a girl I know who decided to abort at 21 weeks. Pretty selfish, considering she knew about the pregnancy from 8 weeks and was only trying to manipulate the father of the baby by playing games Sad
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Posted: 11-11-06 22:21pm

tim_horton wrote:
i just had to look at the pictures. Don't know why.


Made me think about a girl I know who decided to abort at 21 weeks. Pretty selfish, considering she knew about the pregnancy from 8 weeks and was only trying to manipulate the father of the baby by playing games Sad


well, she does sound psycho...
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Abortions In the First Trimester
Posted: 11-12-06 00:56am

You know i'm going to respond without reading all these posts first because well I can. To answer your question on are all these pro choice sure of them selves . Well I cant answer for all of them but honestly I think no but that dosent matter.Should it matter can you always say you are so sure of you self.People like to talk about what they would do in situations but that's what it is talk. Talk talk talk.It all depends in that moment . What do us pro choicers have to fear every thing and nothing it all depends on your life your views . I have had 2 abortions and I also have a 4 year old daughter.I was a teen mom . I have srtuggled through hardship and striff.I have made bad choices I have made good choices . I am a person.I look at the pictures I watch the videos.You know what I see people every on chooses.What do I choose I choose at the time. What do I fear everything and nothing I an human the choices we make are not always simple but they are our choices as individual's. So respect the fact that other people's choices are not always your own and hopefully in return they will respect yours as your own and we can stop the madness that has become our society of hateing eachother and support one another through our hardships .Stop the madness.Stop the hate. Let people make the choice to live their life.
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Posted: 11-12-06 02:54am

eiri wrote:
i'm so surprised so many of you like anime too!


Kaleido star is the most adorable thing I have ever seen and I luuurve it. We have anime network on demand, so i've seen every episode that's come over so far of season one and (for some reason) they were playing part of season two at the same time, so i've seen a bunch of that, too!


Alright gals, whisper me and each other for further discussion of the yays of anime!


i'm a cartoon fanatic but just can't get into anime.

Anyway.....
I'm not looking at the pics, why? Because it makes pro-life look bad to disrespect the z/e/f by posting pics up on the internet.
I'm on the fence as to what my beliefs are and i'm leaning more toward the pro-choice side of things and I can tell you one thing...I've seen nearly every picture out there on the net....And it just makes me angry that these aborted z/e/f's are being exploited.

I don't think any pro-life person in the right mind would hang around an abortion clinic waiting to pick up pieces of dead z/e/f's so they could display them on the internet. To me that's just disturbing.

Yes some are fake, some are real...(i'm not good at telling what is what) but it's still not something that anyone would want to look at.
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Re: Abortions In the First Trimester
Posted: 11-12-06 10:17am

eiri wrote:
oblina wrote:
many people think that all the photos on those 'anti-choice' sites are of late term stillbirths.

Go to www.Clinicquotes.Com and click on "pictures" for pictures of abortions in the first trimester. If you are pro-choice, and so sure of yourself, what have you to fear by going to this site?


i saw what looked like tiny pink frog legs, flippers, and in one picture, there was a microscopic pair of frog legs with a tail. I'm not seeing anything that deterrs me from being pro-choice, as i've known for a long time what the different stages of development look like. The subject fascinated e as a child. At least the pictures seem to be from the right stage of development.


but what you fail to mention is those "tiny pink frog legs" are not frog legs. It is just the name you call them to justify killing a baby in its beginning stages. As for deterring you or anyone on being pro-choice, nothing can do that. Not even limbs being torn off a late term baby or a sharp object being thrushed into its skull. Admitting that is wrong and disgusting would make you feel like your "pro-choice" argument is weak, which is what it really is.
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Posted: 11-12-06 10:19am

cambion wrote:
i don't understand why this should be considered a deterrent to women seeking abortion. Most women know what an abortion entails, so why should pieces of an aborted fetus be heart-wrenching? Also, are pro-lifers so lacking in lives that they need to go rummaging through dumpsters to find aborted fetus limbs half the size of dimes?


Abortion might not be a beautiful thing, but that doesn't mean it's unnecessary. I would rather see an unwanted child aborted than be born and either stuck in a foster home or kept with resentful parents who neglect or abuse it. But I guess as long as that baby gets born, it can be neglected and beaten as much as the parents see fit and that's perfectly fine. I know this isn't the case with all kids, but you can't deny that it happens.


why should it be heart-wrenching?? Because it is! What is wrong with mankind? Destroying a human life is heart-wrenching.
I think it is ironic that your asking if pro-life is is "lacking in lives" considering we believe in saving lives, not destroying them, as pro-choice does, all in the name of "woman's rights". Boy....What people will do just for the sake of "choice". Humans should have a choice in everything--as long as it is humane. Killing a baby is not. Therefore, that baby should have precedence over a woman's, or anyone's, choice. End of story.
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Posted: 11-12-06 11:49am

paganangel wrote:
eiri wrote:
i'm so surprised so many of you like anime too!

Kaleido star is the most adorable thing I have ever seen and I luuurve it. We have anime network on demand, so i've seen every episode that's come over so far of season one and (for some reason) they were playing part of season two at the same time, so i've seen a bunch of that, too!

Alright gals, whisper me and each other for further discussion of the yays of anime!


i'm a cartoon fanatic but just can't get into anime.

Anyway.....

I'm not looking at the pics, why? Because it makes pro-life look bad to disrespect the z/e/f by posting pics up on the internet.
I'm on the fence as to what my beliefs are and i'm leaning more toward the pro-choice side of things and I can tell you one thing...I've seen nearly every picture out there on the net....And it just makes me angry that these aborted z/e/f's are being exploited.

I don't think any pro-life person in the right mind would hang around an abortion clinic waiting to pick up pieces of dead z/e/f's so they could display them on the internet. To me that's just disturbing.

Yes some are fake, some are real...(i'm not good at telling what is what) but it's still not something that anyone would want to look at.


that's certainly a valid an interesting point of view. It gets into the realm of war photography, and all of those gruesom picturs of half-strarved locals, exploded soldiers, and dead livestock. Those photos are often exploitative as well. There comes a point where these photos have passed out of the realm of "shock" therapy, which can be good on a subject no ne knows about, and enters the realm of propaganda and exploitation.
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