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ingram

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No Pain
Posted: 06-15-07 16:11pm

I have been through many of the tests talked about in these posts. The only thing is I have not had any pain. I am just having severe episodes of nausea and diarrhea. Sometimes when the episodes are really intense I vomit. It feels like I have food poisoning. However, I don't think I would be so unlucky to have it this many times in a 7 month period. I have lost some weight mainly because of the nausea. Is it possible to have gallbladder issues without the pain? I am very frustrated as it seems many of you are. I just want to feel better. Thank.
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sandwich

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Small Bile Duct Opening Causing Gall Bladder Pains
Posted: 06-20-07 19:00pm

I had 6 attacks. They could never find anything in the bloodwork, ultrasounds, xrays, ulcers treatments, or hida scan. Finally after 4 years i had severe pain everytime I tried to eat. The pain was exactly an hour after I ate and the only "cure" was morphine. They gave me a scope down my stomach (not gastral) and found the opening from my bile duct to intestine was extremely small. They cut the hole bigger with the scope and have been good ever since. The bile was just backing up, no stones. In the past I would have one attack then for a year be good so they could never find anything. My liver enzymes did go up this last time things plugged up. Note: when you go to the emergency room ALWAYS say you've have rolaids first and NEVER say that you've had any kind of alcohol in the last year cause they'll dismiss your pain!!! Plus if its your gall bladder you'll be in so much pain don't hesitate to lay on the floor of the waiting room to get quicker care. Ask for a "pink lady" as well to help numb the pain before they get the iv going.

I had nausea during my last episode as well.

Ask your doctor about this!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E RCP
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hopie4673

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Normal Tests.... Excrutiating Pain
Posted: 08-19-07 10:30am

I have been in the hospital since Wednesday. I have had HIDA scan, CT scan, upper endoscopy, and ultrasound. All came back normal. I am supposed to have another HIDA scan on Tuesday that is supposed to see not just if the gallbladder is working, but that is working properly. I have so much pain in my right side behind my rib cage that I am staying at a friends house doped up on pain meds all weekend. I don't like pain meds, but it is the only thing that takes the edge off. I SWEAR it is my gallbladder, but nothing is coming back. I am reading on this forum about people suffering for 2-6 years with this and I refuse to do that. I have been hurting for 6 months and that is long enough for me. Is there anything that I can do, or ask or another test out there that is more accurate? I am a teacher and it is very difficult to stand in front of class and teach with this pain.
I am also looking into Irritable Bowel Syndrome (which I don't think it is because my pain is constant and I wake up at night) and diverticulitis but my pain is not in the colon. I have no idea what it is. I know I am not crazy. HELP please
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sandwich

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Posted: 08-19-07 13:27pm

How are your liver function tests? (my tests were ok until the last attack so its not 100% either)

Are they willing to try an ercp? It can enlarge or unplug the bile duct, your gall bladder might be working fine but it hurts trying to squeeze the bile through. For me this didn't show up on any tests (same as yours) only the ercp caught it.

For me it hurt exactly an hour after eating anything. Thats when the gall bladder sees the food go by. The only thing that helped me was morphine.

If they put on IV and the pain goes away that at least tells you its digestive.

It also took 3 doctors to find out the problem, I had to talk to 3 surgeons and have them working together. You can only get help by getting a relative to help you out by bugging them nonstop. I stayed in the hospital for two weeks!! but at least now its solved.

Does your family have a history of gall bladder attacks?

My advice would be go back to the hospital, put yourself on IV, take the morphine and REFUSE to leave until its solved. The key is to get into the system and stay there!!! Don't leave the hospital. Its extremly boring in there but you have to put yourself first.

Put your foot down and insist on morphine, sometimes they make you stay in pain as a diagnostic, screw that its not needed get the morphine! Let them know how bad it really is.
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sandwich

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Posted: 08-19-07 13:32pm

Again look into an ercp!!!

Get your butt back to the hospital and don't leave!
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hopie4673

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Posted: 08-19-07 16:40pm

sandwich wrote:
Again look into an ercp!!!

Get your butt back to the hospital and don't leave!


I think that is what I had... not the upper edoscopy. The sad part is, I don't have enough leave from work to sit in the hospital. I am hoping to find an answer on Tuesday. If not, I am calling my doctor and getting rowdy. It sucks. I wish I had gallstones cause that would make life a lot easier to diagnose gallbladder disease. I have this thing pegged with symptoms but I have to go through the hoops I guess.
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sandwich

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Posted: 08-19-07 22:00pm

Check with your human resources person, hopefully you have short term disability insurance. The "company" usually has its own insurance policy that pays out an employee. Hopefully you have it. The sick leave if taken together can help you get through the one week? waiting period.

With me they did an upper scope first looking for ulcers but that doesn't see the gall bladder. Its cheaper for them to do so they usually start with that.

My abdomen just below the right side rib cage always ached for about 8 months before things got really bad. It was hard to pin point, it was like it was being caused by sleeping on your side all the time or where the seat belt would be. Turned out to be my gall bladder. I didn't have any stones but it hurt just the same.

I can't say you have the same problem cause i'm not a doctor but keep asking them questions and bugging them. If you ignore it you'll miss more work in the long run Sad
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KLAX712

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All Negative Tests
Posted: 08-21-07 15:34pm

Hi, I'm an 18 year old female who has been suffering from pain in my upper right hand quadrant for the past six months. I've had about every type of test possible (HIDA, Ultra sounds, CT scans and Endoscopy) and all of my test have turned up positive. Even my blood work is all normal. I'm at my wits end, and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas for me?
~Kristin
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readytobeamommy

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Hida Scan With Diarrhea?
Posted: 10-19-07 13:40pm

I had my Hida Scan today. Within 30 minutes of getting home I began cramping and having diarrahea. It is a very strange orange color. I know this is gross but did anyone else experience this?

Also, my symptoms are nausea, belly pain, and severe indigestion/belching. Did anyone else experience this with gallbladder disease????? Embarassed

I had a CT and US with no stones found. I had endoscopy and no stomach ulcers/problems found. I had the HIDA today and won't get my results till Monday afternoon.
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4marzipan

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No More Tests Please
Posted: 10-22-07 19:13pm

I am in the same situation as most on this topic. Had CT, MRI, Ultrasound, lab work up and down and round and round all coming back normal. I had an endoscopy=normal. They jsut did the Hida scan and it showed 12%! I experienced severe nausea, sweatingbut no cramping during the test and nasty diarrahea few hours later. So finally something but the first thing they want to do is cut me open...and they don't even think i have stones. Mad

This had been going on a year for me. About 1 year to the date of my first ER visit, I visited the ER again. Liver enzymes were through roof last year and this time not as bad, but up there. My pain also radiates up and across the back even into the right shoulder.

However they did diagnosis me with chronic fatigue/fibromyalgia. I could live with the fatigue and joint/muscle pains that these produce, but this intense urq thing has got to end.

I am a teacher ...it is next to impossible to stand and teach. I didn't find relief sitting either. Nothing really helps the pain except meds. And a classroom of 9th graders and a teacher w a head full of meds is no good.

Thanks for the internet I see I am not the only one out there with same complaints and no straight answers from the medical professionals.

Has anyone had the ERCP done? Did they find stones in the ducts? Were they able to remove? And most importantly, did it fix/correct/stop the urq pain? How long and good was the recovery process? And if it did correct the pain, were the effects permanent?
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luvmywits

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Re: Hida Scan Results- Help!!!
Posted: 11-16-07 13:00pm

sick and tired wrote:
I have been dealing with pain since may of 2004- in june I had my appendix removed and thought that the nausea and pain would end. Unfortunately the pain got and continues to get worse. I too have severe pain in my urq. I am extremely frustrated and don't know what to do next- I have had the tube down my throat, ultra sound and the hida scan. Is this all in my head??? Additionally I have lost alot of weight-don't know where to turn.
Confused

I too am scheduled, with a little apprehension, after reading reports of pain during the test. But, when I read your situation, it reminded me of my mother about 5 years ago...she was hospitalized with severe pain, they ran every scan, test, cat, etc on her....Nothing....they released her and she still was suffering....we finally found a doctor that admitted for a laproscopic for exploratory....Thank God....she was full of adhesions, that do not show up on x-rays, scans, etc. ....they were so badly wrapped around her intestines and even some of her organs.....Thank God for the doctor that ordered this outpatient surgery for her.....it saved her life !!!!
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dtwesa

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Re: Gall Bladder Disease
Posted: 11-28-07 00:00am

goergina wrote:
Can anyone tell me the syptoms of gall bladder disease


I was recently diagnosed through ultra should to have gallstones, the symtoms of gallbladder disease (which are gallstones or any form of inflamation or non-functioning gallbladder) are generally all or some of as follows:

*steady, severe pain in the upper abdomen that increases rapidly and lasts from 30 minutes to several hours
*pain in the back between the shoulder blades
*pain under the right shoulder
*nausea or vomiting
*abdominal bloating
*recurring intolerance of fatty foods
*belching
*gas
*indigestion

I have all of the above and the gallbladder attacks I have are very painful. I am on a very strict low-fat high fiber diet.

I am currently on a surgical waiting list of have my gb removed.

Thanks
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Texavery

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Re: Heida Scan And Symptoms
Posted: 12-07-07 20:45pm

Anonymous wrote:
Well here I go again...Yet another chat group for another possible answer.


37 yr old female. Healthy weight and lifestyle. Eat balanced diet and exercise but not a twig.

One episode april 2004 - extreme pain, nausea etc...Told me I had indigestion. Off and on pain till jan 2005. Then kidney infection. May 2005 extreme pain in urq and right of belly button and in back.
Have had ct, colonoscopy, endoscopy, ultrasounds, laproscopy to look for endoemtriosis, various blood work (check for celiac disease, h pylori etc), occult fecal blood tests. Now still have the urq and abdominal pain, back pain....Started to have rectal bleeding once a month for the past three months, pain in right breast, under right arm, in right side of neck. Also have been experiencing muscle twitches mostly in calves feels like ants under my skin. Have heida scan schedules for 11/22. Any thoughts?Oh....And I am exhausted.


Good Lord, this could be me. Same story. 37 year old female with same exact symptoms going on 4 years now. I discovered recently that I have Narcolepsy and Auto Immune Thyroid Disease. I just had an ultrasound for gall bladder this morning after a CT for a Kidney infection revealed a "collapsed gallbladder". I have been feeling much better since the treatment of the other conditions, but I am hoping that this is the final fix to a 10 year saga of not feeling well. Don't give up until you get answers! Best wishes to you!
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ouchouchow!

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Severve Pain During Hida Scan
Posted: 01-08-08 23:07pm

So i've read all the forums and im still just lost. Im a 22 yr old female. Im active duty military fire fighter. Im incredibly fit, but I feel like Im dying. I have all the symptoms that everyone has listed here. Ive had the run around from every doctor in town. Just today I finally had a HIDA scan done. They havent let me know the results. But I have never experienced such pain in my stomach like that in my life. I almost threw up but held it back. 20 minutes later the same pain hit again. I was in tears it was so horrible. Im a tough chick, pain 'aint no thang' for a girl like me. But this unknown medical crap has given me anxiety attacks and stress you cant believe. Ive been so weak from pain all the time. My station captain has taken me off our 24 hour shift and Im stuck with the injured repainting the stations. oh what a joy. I HATE IT! Why was this cck injection so ungodly painful? please help?
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momoflbc

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same symptoms
Posted: 01-22-08 09:44am

My 15 year old was taken to ER for severe pain under his right rib cage. They said he had pleurisy. We then took him to our family doctor for a follow up visit. He thinks its his gall bladder. So far he has had an ultrasound which showed no stones. Friday he has a hida scan scheduled. He gets nausea after eating and vomits sometimes. He also gets the belching. He was diagnosed with acid reflux about 2 years ago but the medicine did not help the nausea. He has had the rib pain for about 4 months or longer. But the pain then was really mild. I hope the hida scan shows something. I hate seeing my son like this. Right now he takes tylenol with codeine and 400 mg of motrin for the pain. He is also on a low fat diet, but being a teenager he has a hard time finding foods he likes. It does seem to help a little eating the low fat foods. He hasnt had to take as much tylenol as when we first went to the ER. I hope the doctors find out whats wrong with each and everyone of you.
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hfranzel

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Re: Gallbaldder Symptoms With "normal" Hida Scan
Posted: 02-08-08 14:44pm

Ruth Greenberg wrote:
I have gallbladder syptoms (pain urq that radiates into my back) that has lasted for over 3 months and is now present on a daily basis for about a month. Today, I had a hida scan. It took 1 1/2 hours for my gallbladder to empty before they ejected the cck. When the cck was injected, I had terrible pain all over my abdomen, kidneys, stomach, and back. The hida scan came back "normal"
any thoughts?


I was wondering how everything turned out? I have had an ultrasound for my gallbladder and it came back normal and my hida scan came back normal. Now I am going for an endoscopy. My stomach feels really full and bloated and hurts.
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leia70

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another normal ultrasound with symptoms
Posted: 02-13-08 21:51pm

I to have had symptoms with a clear ultrasound. I am having the HIDA scan tues. hopefully i will have answers soon
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PrissyPenguin03

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So tired of testing
Posted: 02-13-08 23:51pm

I am a 20 year old female will be 21 in march...I have been going through pain and being sick since I was about 15 years old. I have been going through testing since I was about 16....after about 1 1/2 years i was diagnosed with Chrons disease. Six years laters i switched drs and he says its not he thinks its my galbladder. So I had my US and a hida scan today and the us came back normal and they had a hard time at first finding my gb. I have been through so much testing and being told the same thing that they just dont know i am so fusterated of being sick all the time and in soo much pain....i know how all of you feel...hopefully we all find answers soon!!
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emmagail

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Re: Gallbaldder Symptoms With "normal" Hida Scan
Posted: 03-17-08 00:08am

I have a question. I have had pain for four years following surgery for endometreosis and a year later I had a hysterectomy. It started with back pain and through the years I started having pain on the right side of my body. Now the pain starts in the center of my chest radiates to my back, right shoulder, stomach and right side above my hip. Could this be due to changes in hormones? I am waiting on results from my HIDA Scan. The technician did not ask me many questions and when I asked he said everything looked ok but the report will have to be read. In my case I am hoping that it is my gallbladder so I could have it removed and I could return to a pain free life. I have had MRI's on my back, ultrasound of abdomen and scope and all were ok. Please let me know any in-put.

Thanks
TBF
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kate7

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CCK HIDA and ENHANCED CTSCAN
Posted: 04-04-08 14:53pm

Hello everyone -

I have suffered with gall bladder pain (symptoms) since my daughter was born 32 years ago... yes, 32 years ago! 6 months after she was born I was told I had gall bladder disease. I have "bouts" wit the pain from time to time and then they go away as quickly as they came. Since last October I have had them constantly. Tube down the throat, ultrasound, colonoscopy, all negative. Which I felt was a good sign. But the pain continued. Had a severe attack 3-10 which put me in the ER for a day. all tests normal! go figure! So I had a CT Scan, Enhanced CT Scan, Hida and CCK all between yesterday and today. CCK was "wicked", sorry but it was. Knocked me for a loop... could not even go to work afterwards.
How much you want to bet that my DR calls me early next week to tell me these tests are normal too! I FEEL HORRIBLE ALL THE TIME. It has already taken its toll on my physically and now emotionally. I did not loose weight, I gained!

Thanks for listening
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