Yesterday I read an issue in a newspaper
about hiv conspiracy. It says that till
the middle of 1985, 4% of americans who
were injected with hepatitis vaccine were
infected with hiv. On the other side,
another article says that in africa, many
children were also infected with hiv,
because the vaccine they were told is for
parotitis contained the hiv virus.
Is such thing possible or these are a caca
stories? Can someone "put"
the virus in the vaccine?
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stef46
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 55
Posted: 11-29-06 19:05pm
Our newspapers are of little help when it
comes to info on hiv..The first cases were
in africa,the congo 1957.The cause were a
polio vaccine program called, chat.The
vaccine was amplified on chimpanzee
kidneys.This caused siv or simian immune
virus to contaminate the polio
vaccine.When this was given to young
babies without an established immune
system ,it mutated from siv,to hiv..The
first epedemics closley followed the polio
vaccine program...This info is witheld
from newspapers as who is ashamed of the
mistake+....The second infection was in
america in 1978.The hepatitus b program
which unbelievably also amplified the
vaccine in chimpanzee kidneys.This was 20
years after the first infection,and some
people had to know of this desease by
then.It was even being studyed by the
special cancer virus program..Promiscous
homosexuals were called upon for the hep b
vaccination program.They all developed
aids...This is what started the epidemic
in north america..While the african
episode seems to be an accident the
american infection is very suspicous,and
in all likleyhood ,some key people knew of
the way that infection took place, from
chimpanzee kidneys, and prompted the
program.Their reason,to cull,homsexuals
and drug addicts who are considered by
some "hawks" to be excess popullation..How
could people studying cancer -viruses not
know twenty years after the african event
that chimp kidneys transmited siv?..This
information is witheld from newspapers for
a myriad of reasons.
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another guy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 5 Location: UK
Posted: 12-01-06 13:32pm
Its all very well just posting this
information, how do we know that you have
not just made this up. Are you able to
give the source of this? As it sounds
like another conspiracy theory.
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stef46
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 55
Posted: 12-01-06 14:35pm
Yes of course.The source is a book called
the river,by edward hooper.This is a 1,100
page, massively re-searched book which
shows the path of the early
infections...This book is hard to find.A
google search will show a handfull.I paid
90 bucks for mine...This book and the info
is being buried by lies and bad science as
there are powerfull people who dont want
to admit to such a momentus mistake..I
just want the truth to come out so we dont
mess with animal organs.,if it dosent come
out ,more nasties are on the way..There
will never be a vaccination for hiv,like
the common cold it changes its profile.
I
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stef46
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 55
Posted: 12-01-06 15:13pm
I would like to add,that edward hoopers
book deals with the first cases and the
african outbreak..He only touches upon the
american outbreak and unlike me he never
mentions any malice by any people,like
"hawks",etc.To him it was an accident.
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another guy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 5 Location: UK
Posted: 12-02-06 07:46am
Thank you for posting back with your
source.
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fsb
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 26
Posted: 12-04-06 11:26am
I had a td vaccine several months ago (td
is tetanus in my language, do not know how
is the word in english, but this vaccine
is against infection if someone has cut a
part of his/her body with dirty knifes,
instrumets etc.)
so after reading this issue in the
newspaper and after reading your posts I
am really concerned it is possible my
vaccine to contain the hiv virus.
Should I go and have hiv test?
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stef46
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 55
Posted: 12-06-06 15:50pm
Fbs,definitly no..Only vaccines that were
amplified on chimp kidneys are
contaminated.As far as I know this was
only done on polio,and hep b
vaccinations,so you are in the clear..I
would suggest research when anyone takes a
vaccine,with the wonderfull internet we
are all enpowered with knowledge.
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stef46
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 55
Posted: 12-14-06 17:14pm
As far as I know all the vaccine programs
stopped using monkey kidneys,even though
monkey kidneys were the best substrate and
gave massive amounts of vaccination..When
they changed they never explained
why??..They just switched and gave the lie
that it wasent because of safety
concerns..What sane man would butcher a
lovley inteligent chimp to get their
kidneys and not have the instinct to tell
the3m its wrong? The vaccination programs
have a history of not imforming the public
of potential dangers and of injuries and
deaths going unreported.They have always
hushed thing up.I find this
dis-respectfull.I suggest people research
themselfs,just google your ailment or
vaccine...The days of elitists
bull$&*^%!@$ the public because they
know best, are over.
