First, I want to comment on
the "dissolves in water" trick. If you
like seeing neat experiments, try this.
Put a piece a broccoli in water for half
an hour. It doesn't dissolve! Does
that mean my body doesn't digest food???
Of course a piece of brocoli won't
dissolve in water! What you think the
water is a blender?
That's why you have teeth and you chew the
brocoli first before you swallow it and
get digested in your tummy!!
hahaha
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happyjack
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 4 Location: CA
Vitamins ~ the Usana Question... Posted: 07-11-07 11:56am
I am so laughing. Most of what I read
makes me giggle. It is a shame though with
so much ignorance.
I have no clue about USANA vitamens. I
have not taken them.
I do know that liquid whole food
supplements can be awesome and yes even
from MLM.
Ignorance about MLM is rampent. A pyramid
scheme is simply a money pyramid that has
no product. Illegal pyramids are
everywhere, but legitimate mlm companies
are just that and fully regulated by FTC
and the production of vitamins and what is
said about them is regulated by the evil
FDA.
Of course big pharma has the big say in
all of our lives, including insurance, our
elected politicians, our laws ~ can you
imagine? According to the FDA and law the
only thing that can cure a disease is a
drug!
That is a real hoot. When in fact, for the
most part our bodies do all of that work
with the food, water and rest (yes we can
get some help from some meds and our
bodies will have to compensate for some of
the damage that comes with them ~ ie I
would take a anti-biotic, but have to deal
with helping to replace some of the good
bacteria and such that gets killed off ~
hmmm, time and some supplementation will
help that too).
Ignorance is everywhere on mlm. Anyone
calling USANA or Vision for Life (v4L is
how it is know on-line) a pyramid scheme
is just ignorant of the facts.
Nearly every business and institution is a
pyramid ~ a President (owner or body of
stock holders), a few vp's and/or
directors, a few more managers and then a
bunch of the work force at the bottom. The
biggest difference is that mlm levels the
playing field and allows people with good
people skills to do really well.
liquid supplements derived from whole food
sources really make a difference. I have
taken store vitamins for years and I think
they are pretty good. But I must say that
once I discovered a good liquid
supplement, my whole health changed for
the better, as did my wife's.
MLM (going back and forth here ) is not an
industry, is not a scam, but a chosen form
of distribution. It cost a lot of money to
put products into distribution which
includes advertising, shipment to
distribution warehouses, then to stores
with all the overhead ~ thus the MARGIN
must be very high to compensate. MLM
allows for different distribution. This
puts the money saved into compensation
plans and in many cases better products ~
people are not generally going to keep
coming back without results and companies
are not going to last in mlm without a
great product. There are only a few more
than 10 years old. But the rates of all
types of new businesses failing are not
that much different.
Drink your vitamins for best absorption
(90% plus is much better than most pill
forms that will give you about 20%).
However, some capsules and some pills will
break down adequately.
Jeez, I even read a doctor saying we don't
need supplements if we are eating a lot of
fresh fruits and veggies. Well, that may
be true if you are eating a LOT of them
and know their source, but who knows that
these days. Even our Gov. Health
department has finally come to the
conclusion we should supplement ~ after
years of evidence and failing health stats
~ and yes, processed foods taking a larger
role in our lives. This doctor states the
truth, but in the context of what most of
us have access to and what we really know,
I know I am going to take my supplements.
I know have better blood pressure, better
cholesteral readings, feel better and
never get sick ~ I used to get infections
nearly every year from complications of
seasonal allergies ~ but no more!
I know, I know, only one case. But that
case is important to me ~ after all it is
me!
Now, what about you? Dont fall for pyramid
schemes, but get really good supplements
from legitimate high quality MLM companies
and you will be a happyjack too!
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fluffygrammahugs
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 1 Location: canada
Usana Supplements Posted: 07-17-07 02:50am
If you really want to know what you're
getting in your nutritional supplements
and if it's as good to get the
in-expensive ones, take a look at a book
called "Comaparative Guide To Nutritional
Supplements." It shows you in a graph what
the supplements out there actually
provide. Then he rates supplements out of
5 stars. Personally, if I'm going to take
a supplement, I want it to do for me what
it says and from what I've read, a whole
lot are just a waste of money. A company
such as Usana is a top 5 star company
which also complies to "Good Manufacturing
Practices". If I'm going to bother to
spend money on & take supplements, I
want to know exactly what I'm taking and
that it is not a waste of my money.
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misleigh
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1 Location: usa
Posted: 08-04-07 08:58am
I have not tried Usana vitamins. As for
the comment about asking your physician in
regard to taking supplements, most
allopathic physicians no next to nothing
about vitamins & nutrition. Whereas a
naturopathic doctor, who has studied
vitamins & herbs, would be an
excellent source of guidance. I work at a
medical college & their training on
this topic is sorely lacking.
Like all multi level
companies their products are overpriced
for what you get. I have looked at all
their literature and they do have good
products, but they are over priced. I
own a health store in canada, and can tell
you, you are paying for all the people
above your retailer too. Buy from a
local independent store!
Want a good quality supplement - call us
at the store speak to steve or shauna.
Panacea is a awesome product - here's the
webpage..
Edit
Yeah right. If not paying the people above
the line, just pay the store owner who
gets hefty commissions of every products
sold in the store plus advertisers and
promoters and salesmen. Your
choice.
Well, it is difficult to get some people
to understand that the money it cost to
advertise, put into distribution, provide
a profit for the traditional brick and
mortar store (and all the overhead
associated with said store) can actually
be diverted to sometimes better products
and certainly compensation plans.
I will admit that not all products and all
compensation plans are the same or even
good. But most of the companies that last,
do so because they at the very least offer
a reasonable product and reasonable
compensation plan. The range goes from not
so good to extraordinary, as anything
else. Many products on the store shelves
offer synthetics and must try very hard to
maintain the highest profit margin they
can. While the same may be true of some
network marketing companies, the good ones
that last offer great value. Ignorance is
prolific and we all run into it every day.
Its all okay! Life is good!
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SANDINMYSHOES
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 1
Usana Vitamins Posted: 08-07-07 14:20pm
I am following this forum with much
interest. USANA vitamins are recommended
by Dr. Christianne Northrup, a highly
respected OB/GYN who has some marvelous
books out. They are the only vitamins she
recommends.
I'm going to give them a try.
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happyjack
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 4 Location: CA
Re: Usana Vitamins Posted: 08-07-07 15:03pm
SANDINMYSHOES
wrote:
I am following this forum
with much interest. USANA vitamins are
recommended by Dr. Christianne Northrup, a
highly respected OB/GYN who has some
marvelous books out. They are the only
vitamins she recommends.
I'm going to give them a
try.
Hey, Good for you SANDINMYSHOES!
Now, I use something very different. But I
say go for it. Those that disparage MLM
(or network marketing) do so for many
reasons. Some, simply out of ignorance,
some because of a bad experience ~whether
that be of their own making or being
misguided by some leadership or having
false expectations and not treating it
like a business. Others disparage it
because they have a business and network
marketing is certainly becoming more and
more competition. Though it is a growing
method of distribution (technically it is
not an industry, but a real choice of
distribution in conjunction with
independent associates that do the
advertising or exposure of the product, if
you will), I don't think it will ever
replace the brick n mortar store, but it
will become even much greater than today
as a means of creating income for more and
more people.
As long as there are great products being
produced, more people will learn how to do
this kind of business more effectively. It
is not so much that it is difficult, it is
in fact simple (not easy), but simple
things to do are also simple not to do and
most people with job mentalities find it
difficult to change ~ but many more are
doing so. Still sadly, many do not yet
have the leadership they need, but with
perserverance and if they follow the
company lead (which is all most need to
do), they will make it.
On the other hand, it is still all about
the products. There are many product users
for USANA. They have been around quite a
while and are known for having great
products.
I have not tried them. Although, I use
Vision for Life liquid based
nutricueticals. At www.v4l.com/thesecret
you will find out about what is called P3
or Power of 3. It just happens to have
come from a formulation of three different
liquid products that they found could be
combined, and still have all the impact of
the original. I took the originals and
loved them, but I was glad to see them
come all together in one bottle now. They
have recommended dosages (rather than the
more is better syndrome of some
companies), they do have all the vitamens,
minerals, trace minerals and what I really
love is the Okanawan coral calcium, plus
they have 35 different vegetables,
seavegies, fruits and exotic fruits (such
as noni, mangostein, etc). But all are
micronized and in liguid form are easily
absorbed. Pill forms do not absorb well.
Capsules are certainly better than pills
in my opinion. However, V4L has MD's,
nutritionist and other alternative docs
endorsing and using, as well as doing the
business (recognizing the real world of
trading time for dollars is not
necessarily the best way for all).
But either way. I have used all kinds of
nutrients over the years and even when I
was not in business I have found that what
I got from Network Marketing companies was
generally superior (not all by any
means). I have been using V4L for several
years and I love the products.
For a while I was using a national chain
specialty store and was very disappointed
to be overly stimulated which was their
way of making you 'feel the difference' in
my opinion ~ however, the effect of the
stimulants (though i believe they were
from good sources) I did not want them and
could not find any of their products that
did not have these stimulants in them.
Gee, a little is actually good for you,
but if it interferes with my sleep, then
they have goNe to far. C what I mean?
Seriously, all I have said, I
believe in my heart to be true. And if
others like those chain products, than
fine. I am of the mind that as long as
people are taking something reasonable,
they are better off than those that do not
supplement at all. I think this is finally
getting through to more and more people.
I would like to know how you feel about
the USANA in a couple of months.
Please let me know . I hope that is okay
to put that there. I do not mean to
violate anything and that is my freefor
all email, so make sure you put remember
usana in your email subject.
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happyjack
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 4 Location: CA
Re: Try This Posted: 08-16-07 14:21pm
I
understand this if you are addressing a
particular issue. However, for the most
part the human body is quite robust if
given proper nutrition. There is a
misconception that everyone needs
something different. This is only true if
there is a serious problem. Otherwise, we
can all do well with a comprehensive
supplement and our body is smart enough to
use what it needs and through off the
rest. This does not mean we are good to
overdose on every vitamen ~ we can
actually use the generally accepted scales
~ however, we should all take a little
extra c and ensure we are getting good
quality calcium with mag. Many tend to
over-complicate it all.
Most common ailments will indeed respond
well if we treat our bods with common
sense: good quality supplements, including
minerals & trace minerals (all naturally
derived, of course), good sleep (must
dream), good water and moderate exercise
(many will overdue this last one too ~
when there is no need to wear out your
body and joints on hard repetitive
stuff).
Funny, how common sense is not so common.
But again, if one is facing some serious
stuff, they should seek out an alternative
open minded doc. It seems that most
doctors without alternative treatment
training are too ready to write harmful
prescriptions at the drop of a hat.
Herbalists? Yeah, I say give it a go if
you have an issue.
Cheers.
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buddha!
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 1
Usana Tested! Posted: 10-09-07 22:58pm
I've been using the Essentials by
Usana(Mega Anti-oxydants and
multi-minerals) for five days now. I have
been suffering from insomnia all of my
life. It can take up to 4 hours before I
fall asleep, and no matter the amount of
''sleep'' I have, I never have energy when
I get up. It's been 5 days now, it takes
me less than 1 hour to fall asleep and I
feel good when I wake up. There has been
no change in my diet, nor in my habits,
and the quantity of ''bed time'' has not
changed. This is the first time in my life
I experience such a thing. I've tried
Centrums, and I can assure you the
centrums are now in my trash can. Usana
can be a little bit expensive, yes, but it
does work for me, and that is priceless. I
want what's best for my body. Oh and my
hair is thicker also. I'll keep on
observing any further changes, and i'll
post new comment to give you a follow-up.
Say what you want to say about ''so called
pyramids'', I'm trying the Usana brand,
and so far, it works.
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Frisbee78
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 1
Posted: 10-10-07 16:48pm
Does anyone know which is best between
Usana and Maximol? I've been getting
Maximol through Sepiro
Wellbeing but with all the talk
here about Usana, I am wondering whether
to keep using Maximol...
Has anybody had experience of both?
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jhartmac
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 1
Admitted Novice Posted: 10-12-07 16:40pm
But I do my homework on just about
anything I purchase, definately well
versed when it comes to my health. Like
everyone else- typically I say that, we
want our bodies to age correctly. We
don't want to break down too quickly so
mostly all of use look for those things
which makes sense. There is credable
information about nutrition and how it
relates to diseases and overall health. I
think supplements are great, but caution
should be taken to just any type and more
importantly self evaluation. In other
words do you have a good diet? are you
getting the things you need in it? are you
on prescrip meds now? Be aware of these
things before you go just injesting
anything off the shelf. Know your
possible interaction. Also never NEVER
start anything at the recommended level ie
take (6) of these daily............just
take one a day for a week and slowly build
up that is to SIX if you really think you
need to. Now on to MLM- who really cares
about this? DOES the product work is the
main issue correct? So lets kick that to
the side completely...........its a
useless topic here. What we want is to
focus on the subject.........USANA. I'd
like to address 1st the benefits of liquid
supplements...........forgive me if I'm
wrong but doesnt absorbtion take place in
the intestines? Not the stomach? if so
wouldnt that preclude liquids or that is
the things that would be eatin up in the
solution that would be subject to stomach
acid? And hasn't it been redundantly
proven that enteric coating is a must?
unless those particular vitamins,
nutrients or whatever would not be
effected by the stomach acid/byle ect?
So with that said, what can Liquids do for
any of us? Back to USANA, from what I've
read I may try them or maybe the other
highly toted Extend Life..........these
both look to be based on the information
available viable...............and I get
my information for searches on the net not
just for vitamins and supplements but for
the treatment of health issues and what is
recommended for treatment. And as a
disclaimer Im not a MLM for anyone or
anything just a common sense type person.
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reelmandy
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Aug 2008 Posts: 3
Not sure about usana, but this is what I take Posted: 08-28-08 15:30pm
sorry if this sounds like a plug, but I've
been taking GeneWize vitamins for about 4
weeks now and could not be happier. They
are the ones that are tailored to your
specific DNA, so there's no guessing about
what your body needs. Here's my blog plug,
cause honestly I think this is the next
giant leap for nutrition:
) is not an
industry, is not a scam, but a chosen form
of distribution. It cost a lot of money to
put products into distribution which
includes advertising, shipment to
distribution warehouses, then to stores
with all the overhead ~ thus the MARGIN
must be very high to compensate. MLM
allows for different distribution. This
puts the money saved into compensation
plans and in many cases better products ~
people are not generally going to keep
coming back without results and companies
are not going to last in mlm without a
great product. There are only a few more
than 10 years old. But the rates of all
types of new businesses failing are not
that much different.
