Joined: 04 Feb 2007 Posts: 214 Location: Australia
Posted: 02-09-07 21:13pm
eiri
wrote:
auzzie_wanting_to_help
wrote:
Quote:
well, it really
isn't hard. Aborting is better than
bringing an unwanted, unloved child into a
very poor financial environment where it
could possibly be neglected and/or
rejected. Aborting is better for those
who will have a poor quality of life due
to serious foetal defects.
this goes for consentual sex (e.G not
being raped/forced into sex).....If this
is the case then the person shouldnt be
having sex! For every action there is
a reaction.... All im saying is if you
dont want to face the consequences of
having sex, then dont do
it!
you are wrong. Everyone has the right to
have sex; and thinking that every woman
who becomes pregnant during consentual sex
should have to give birth to it is
punishing her for having sex!
I'm going to no drive down the street,
since I don't want to face the consequence
of possibly dying in a car crash. It
could happen, even though I wear my
seatbelt!
I'm going to go be pranoid about every
single action in my life, since they all
have negative consequences!! Better go
live in a tiny little hole.
No. I am going to live, and make the
best choices I can, and enjoy myself
safely.
when you drive down the street you know
full well that there is a chance that you
could have an accident, you take that
risk! If you didnt want to take that risk
you would walk..... Its like if you
homicide someone, you have to be prepared
to do jail time!
I could be wrong but to me it seems like
your using abortion as a form of
contraceptive... I'm sorry if you dont
think like that but thats just how it
comes accross to me.
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jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 02-10-07 06:14am
auzzie_wanting_to_help
wrote:
when you drive down the
street you know full well that there is a
chance that you could have an accident,
you take that risk! If you didnt want to
take that risk you would walk..... Its
like if you not a nice act someone, you
have to be prepared to do jail time!
I could be wrong but to me it seems like
your using abortion as a form of
contraceptive... I'm sorry if you dont
think like that but thats just how it
comes accross to
me.
perhaps you should
address your comments to someone who has
actually had an abortion or should go back
and read all of the comments in this
thread.
Anyway, if you have sex, you can be
prepared for the consequences of that
action in a variety of ways, just as you
can be prepared for the consequences of
driving. One of those ways is by
thinking of what you would do if an
accident were to occur and another is to
try to prevent an accident from occurring.
That way, if an accident does occur
despite trying to prevent it, you can
safely manage the risks and move along
your chosen path.
And, as a final note, abortion can't be
used as a contraceptive just by the very
basic definition of the two words and what
they mean in our society.
Contraception, by its very basic
definition prevents a conception (the
majority of the time) and an implantation
from occurring. If contraception fails,
abortion is one option. Since a
conception and implantation (thus
pregnancy) have already occurred, abortion
is birth control because it absolutely
controls whether or not you give birth
should you choose it. I know that in our
colloquial uses of the words they are used
interchangeably but their functions are
different.
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Birch
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Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 3963 Location: Bliss,
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Posted: 02-10-07 09:58am
auzzie_wanting_to_help
wrote:
when you drive down the street you know
full well that there is a chance that you
could have an accident, you take that
risk! If you didnt want to take that
risk you would walk..... Its like if
you not a nice act someone, you have to be
prepared to do jail time!
I could be wrong but to me it seems like
your using abortion as a form of
contraceptive... I'm sorry if you dont
think like that but thats just how it
comes accross to
me.
if you get into an accident, you (may) go
to the hospital.
If you get pregnant, you (may) get an
abortion.
Taking responsibility for the risks you
take do not mean that:
if you drive, knowing full well you could
get injured, therefore you're not allowed
medical services.
If you have sex, knowing full well you
could get pregnant, therefore you're not
allowed to have an abortion.
Plus, all of this is null and void for
poor people, since according to you (and
many others) they shouldn't be having sex
anyways. Classifists.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 02-10-07 21:37pm
auzzie_wanting_to_help
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
auzzie_wanting_to_help
wrote:
Quote:
well, it really
isn't hard. Aborting is better than
bringing an unwanted, unloved child into a
very poor financial environment where it
could possibly be neglected and/or
rejected. Aborting is better for
those who will have a poor quality of life
due to serious foetal defects.
this goes for consentual sex (e.G not
being raped/forced into sex).....If this
is the case then the person shouldnt be
having sex! For every action there is
a reaction.... All im saying is if
you dont want to face the consequences of
having sex, then dont do
it!
you are wrong. Everyone has the right
to have sex; and thinking that every woman
who becomes pregnant during consentual sex
should have to give birth to it is
punishing her for having sex!
I'm going to no drive down the street,
since I don't want to face the consequence
of possibly dying in a car crash. It
could happen, even though I wear my
seatbelt!
I'm going to go be pranoid about every
single action in my life, since they all
have negative consequences!! Better go
live in a tiny little hole.
No. I am going to live, and make the
best choices I can, and enjoy myself
safely.
when you drive down the street you know
full well that there is a chance that you
could have an accident, you take that
risk! If you didnt want to take that
risk you would walk..... Its like if you
not a nice act someone, you have to be
prepared to do jail
time!
many places cannot be "walked" to. Your
job your school, the store. Unless you
are very very lucky and live in a
microscopic little town, you will always
have to take some kind of vehicle
somewhere, whether that is a bus, train,
car, or anything else. And even walking,
you can get hit by a car! Better not
cross the street; even if you do it during
the signal for you, a carm may still be
dumb and drive through the red light,
hitting you!!
You cannot "avoid" these situations. They
are everywhere. Unless you become a
bubble boy, you will face danger in your
life. You will face consequnces...
And abortion is a perfectly fine response
to unwanted pregnancies.
Quote:
i could be wrong
but to me it seems like your using
abortion as a form of contraceptive...
actually no i'm not. I am against
abortion as a sole form of
contraception.
It doesn't make me friends with fellow
pro-choicers, since I feel that a woman
who does nothing to protect herself and
who gets a bunch of abortions is abusing
her body. I think it is very wrong.
Quote:
i'm sorry if you
dont think like that but thats just how it
comes accross to
me.
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Moo
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Posted: 02-17-07 17:43pm
auzzie_wanting_to_help
wrote:
i could be wrong but to me it seems like
your using abortion as a form of
contraceptive... I'm sorry if you dont
think like that but thats just how it
comes accross to
me.
contraceptive prevents pregnancy, how
could abortion possible be construed as
that?
