Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 39 Location: new brunswick
Ever Have One of the Days... Posted: 02-04-04 19:00pm
I just feel like writing, actually I
really want to have a good cry but I fear
that if I start I won't stop, so i'll
write instead hoping that the feeling go
away and I can go back to the numbness
that I use to feel. I've started
remembering things which is why I feel
this way. I'm sitting with a group of
people at work who have been talking about
toys/dolls tv shows movies all the things
that we had played with or watched as
kids, and i'm remembering the childhood
i've spent my whole life forgetting.
It's nice to remember the day my baby
brother was brought home and how angry I
was that it was a boy and not a girl like
I wanted. I wish there was a way to
remember only the good things. Anyways
this is just my rambling away...I'll start
forgetting soon and be able to go on as I
always do. It's amazing how a song or
any little thing can start a whole swarm
of memories.
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Me to Posted: 02-04-04 23:53pm
Hi I agree it is so hard for me sometimes
to have lived a childhood
of being abused than marrying into it.
I have so much anger towards my parents
for the dinking the beatings the going
without while they had everything.
Sometimes I just want to scream at them
""look at what you have done to me do you
care""""but somehow I think I already know
the answer but~~
i make it a part of my life everyday to
not be like them and to realize
everyday what they are missing out on!!!
And it helps to ramble on!!!It gets things
out.And for me crying helps it makes me
stronger and helps me not to take the
abuse no matter what form it comes in.
Iam remarried now and iam happy so it can
happen even if your past haunts you .
I hope you will feel better.
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
Re: Ever Have One of the Days... Posted: 02-06-04 14:04pm
autumn24
wrote:
i just feel like writing,
actually I really want to have a good cry
but I fear that if I start I won't stop,
so i'll write instead hoping that the
feeling go away and I can go back to the
numbness that I use to feel. I've
started remembering things which is why I
feel this way. I'm sitting with a group
of people at work who have been talking
about toys/dolls tv shows movies all the
things that we had played with or watched
as kids, and i'm remembering the childhood
i've spent my whole life forgetting.
It's nice to remember the day my baby
brother was brought home and how angry I
was that it was a boy and not a girl like
I wanted. I wish there was a way to
remember only the good things. Anyways
this is just my rambling away...I'll start
forgetting soon and be able to go on as I
always do. It's amazing how a song or
any little thing can start a whole swarm
of memories.
look into cognitive behavioral therapy
(cbt). It will teach you many tools that
will enable you to feel better and put
these awful memories in their proper place
and move on with a happier life :d
q
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KittyKat
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Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 39
Posted: 02-07-04 12:56pm
Wow, this one really hit a nerve.
Autumn, maybe you should just cry. So
what if you cry for a long time, maybe you
need that release. You have a right to
be gentle and compassionate with yourself.
I never suffered from any physical or
sexual abuse from my parents, but I grew
up without love. I can't ever remember
my parents just holding me saying they
loved me. I thought parents were suppose
to give their child un-conditional love.
I would have taken any kind of love. I
spent many years wishing I was dead. I
guess if I was dead, my parents would miss
me and wish they had loved me. Gee, I
always thought that is what kid's at the
age of 8 thought. Nmy therapist thinks
this might be one of the reasons I have
low self esteem and can't love myself.
I understand about the writing, but go
ahead and cry, cry for all the things that
did/didn't happen, cry for yourself.
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autumn24
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Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 39 Location: new brunswick
Thank You For Your Responses Posted: 02-12-04 19:05pm
I just wanted to thank everyone for
writing back.
Kitty, I can't imagine what it must have
been like to grow up without love, I don't
know if that's worse or better then what I
grew up with. I'm fortunate that my
parents loved me and showed it, even if
they did or didn't do the things that they
should have. I grew up with
demostrations of love but when it really
mattered they didn't stand by me, so I
guess it was as though one minute they
loved me than the next they didn't. You
said you didn't suffer abuse but emotional
abuse is just as hurtful as physical or
sexual abuse.
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
Posted: 02-12-04 21:08pm
kittykat
wrote:
wow, this one really hit a
nerve.
Autumn, maybe you should just cry. So
what if you cry for a long time, maybe you
need that release. You have a right to
be gentle and compassionate with yourself.
I never suffered from any physical or
sexual abuse from my parents, but I grew
up without love. I can't ever remember
my parents just holding me saying they
loved me. I thought parents were
suppose to give their child un-conditional
love. I would have taken any kind of
love. I spent many years wishing I was
dead. I guess if I was dead, my parents
would miss me and wish they had loved me.
Gee, I always thought that is what kid's
at the age of 8 thought. Nmy therapist
thinks this might be one of the reasons I
have low self esteem and can't love
myself.
I understand about the writing, but go
ahead and cry, cry for all the things that
did/didn't happen, cry for
yourself.
kitty-
sorry to hear you were not loved I
grew up in a less than warm home myself
but at least was under the illusion I was
loved whether I was or not. Have you
tried cbt? It worked wonders for me :d
the author of my favorite cbt book
mentioned how he was not loved in his
family either and cbt turned his life and
self-esteem around
take care!
Q
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KittyKat
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Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 39
Posted: 02-13-04 14:52pm
Qt3: sorry to be dumb, what is cbt?
One of my main issues in therapy is
working on my self esteem. Some nights I
think of my lack of parents love and just
can't believe it. I feel so sad and
maybe I missed out on a childhood. Never
realized how much of an impact it made on
my adult life. I guess I thought that is
what everyone's family is like. Thanks
everyone.
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
Posted: 02-14-04 01:07am
kittykat
wrote:
qt3: sorry to be dumb, what
is cbt?
One of my main issues in therapy is
working on my self esteem. Some nights
I think of my lack of parents love and
just can't believe it. I feel so sad
and maybe I missed out on a childhood.
Never realized how much of an impact it
made on my adult life. I guess I
thought that is what everyone's family is
like. Thanks
everyone.
cognitive behavioral therapy (cbt). Don't
feel dumb as I was busy seeking help and
taking meds for years before I
accidentally discovered cbt. Cbt is not
like other talk therapy. A good cbt
therapist knows they cannot change what's
already happened to you but they can help
you change how you deal with what happens
in your life from here on out. In short
they teach you tools to keep you from
upsetting yourself and it is very
effective if you put in the effort to
practice the tools which teach you to
learn to think more clearly and accurately
about things and once you do your anxiety
and depression will miraculously begin to
lift before your eyes. It has changed my
life for the better at a time I was close
to giving up. The author of my favorite
introductory book on cbt (sam obitz) talks
about how he was not loved by his family
in his book "been there, done that? Do
this! So you may want to check it out at
your local library.
I didn't think I could ever be happy and
dwelled on missing out on my childhood for
a long time and today I am happier than I
ever thought possible so there is hope for
you :d
take care and give cbt a try. Feel free
to ask any other questions too
q
take care.
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KittyKat
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Nov 2003 Posts: 39
Posted: 02-14-04 12:13pm
Qt3
thank you, thank you, thank you. I am
going to head over to barnes & noble
to find this book. That is the focus of
my sessions with my therapist. So much
of it is on my shoulders and me wanting to
get better. She keeps telling me that
this will be the hardest work I will ever
do, and it is. I really think I will be
in therapy for a while, I have so many
other areas that need to be addressed.
Thanks again!
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
Posted: 02-14-04 13:29pm
kittykat
wrote:
qt3
thank you, thank you, thank you. I am
going to head over to barnes & noble
to find this book. That is the focus
of my sessions with my therapist. So
much of it is on my shoulders and me
wanting to get better. She keeps
telling me that this will be the hardest
work I will ever do, and it is. I
really think I will be in therapy for a
while, I have so many other areas that
need to be addressed.
Thanks again!
kitty,
i hope you get as much out of the obitz
book as I have and if you do I have
another great follow-up book to recommend
to you that may be even better, but is a
little too overwhelming as an introduction
to cbt. I re-read both of these books all
the time. The obitz book was only
available direct from the publisher on the
internet (www.Tao3.Com) when I bought it
but that was awhile ago so it may be at
barnes & noble now.
Take care and keep in touch :d
q
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misterlighthouse
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Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 5 Location: Edmonds, WA
Very Interesting! Posted: 02-19-04 01:17am
I am slowly seeing more and more
references to that book been there, done
that? Do this! I have read it. It
was given to me and has been a wonderful
relief to my life and psyche. The author
is a guy out of california named sam
obitz. He is an interesting writer. My
favorite part is the tea form exercises.
Whenever I am upset or confused by
something in my daily life, I can do a tea
form in about 2-3 minutes, and I feel
instantly better about 80% of the time.
you can check it out on the website and
see if ti appeals. I certainly recommend
it.
Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 39 Location: new brunswick
Kitty Posted: 02-21-04 21:03pm
I'm definitly going to look up that book
as well, it sounds as though it's a good
book to learn from. The book that i've
found the most helpful in my situation is
the courage to heal....If you've never
read it's absolutely wonderful for anyone
who has been raped or molested.
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misterlighthouse
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 5 Location: Edmonds, WA
I Love New Brunswick! Posted: 02-22-04 03:40am
I traveled there in 1999, as well as nova
scotia and pei. Spent two nights in st.
John's. Great memories from that area.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 02-22-04 06:08am
Well I feel really dumb, so I have to
share. I just read the last post and
thought... What the ...., then I realized
that autumn was from new brunswick.
Sorry, I had to share.
Anyway, I am sorry kitty that you grew up
without love. Although, I can only
remember bad things about my child hood,
there was always love. And really, the
main reason I only remember bad things is
because I have always suffered from
depression and anxiety so things always
seemed awful even when they weren't. But
what I wanted to say was, although you can
never ever fill that void that you have,
think of this. It is not you! You did
nothing wrong and you deserve just as much
love as everyone else, maybe even more!
Some people just do not have the
characteristics to be parents. Patience,
structure, stabililty, responsability,
maturity, love, etc. No offense to your
parents but it sounds like they were not
ready, or should not have had children.
So many people have kids for the wrong
reasons, or because it just happens and
then they think "well, how hard can it
be?" or "well, if joe shmoe can do it, why
can't we?" well, yeah, joe shmoe is doind
it, but who is to say they are doing it
right? Little joe shmoe could grow up to
be a serial killer we don't know.
Sorry for rambling, but my point is, just
try to not blame yourself. Easier said
then done, but turn that depression into
anger if you have to. But do not turn
the anger inward. That is one of the
worst things that you can do. Try to
work through this and know that you
deserve love, but when you need to blame,
blame them, not yourself.
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qt3
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
Posted: 02-22-04 15:47pm
Hi mister-
the tea form is definitely my favorite
exercise too. I do also like the counter
exercise when I am feeling down and the
putting things back in perspective
exercise is useful especially when used
with the tea form in my experience.
Autumn-
i hope you are doing well, just thought
i'd say hey
hotas-
don't feel dumb as I was lost when I first
read that too.... Not sure I would have
taken the time admit it her like you
though; very impressive that you did
though
q
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 02-23-04 00:01am
Qt3 hey thanks! I am glad I am not the
only one!
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qt3
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Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 264
Posted: 02-25-04 01:11am
hotasfrick
wrote:
qt3 hey thanks! I am
glad I am not the only
one!
hey hotas-
you're welcome. I'm guessing you and I
were not the only ones, just the only ones
that would admit it