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babols29

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Help With Herpes Type 2!
Posted: 01-09-07 06:24am

My wife and I both have the hsv type 1 during our teen age years. We both had pretty active and unprotected sex life before we got together. Now, we have been together for 3 years as steady dates and 6 years as a married couple. My wife attest that she has been faithful all these years. Save for one sexual encounter with a prostitute about six years ago, I never had any sexual partner other than my wife.

Recently, my wife has blisters in and around her vagina, her pubic area, near her rectum and in her thigh. She has discharge, although it does not have foul odor and appears normal in color. She experiences pain when urinating. She experiences muscle pain all over her body. She also experienced itching in her genitals and had fever days before the blisters. Save for the quality of her discharge, all of these symptoms say she has hsv type 2.


Now, this bothers me a lot. I have the following questions I hope doctors in this forum can answer.

1. Is it hsv type 2?
2. Can we rule out any other condition? I have gone through a lot of discussion/forum in the internet and I have encountered experiences by other women with similar symptoms and swear its not hsv type 2 as some of their doctors told them but connected with their menstruation as it appears after that. My wife's appeared after days of her heavy menstruation.
3. I've checked my tool for a number of times already and I can't see a single blister. I feel I am clean and she did not acquire it from me, if my wife's condition is indeed hsv type 2, are any of the following scenarios highly probable?
3.1 she acquired it years before, did not experience the symptoms, the virus stayed dormant (for nine years at least????) and was "reactivated" recently because of fatigue, stress, sickness, etc?
3.2 her hsv type 1 which she had as a teen ager, developed into hsv type 2 because she had a break in her skin down there due to too much scratching (which she did!!!) and that the vaginal itch was caused by her being a diabetic or maybe the moist caused by wearing tight fitting panties (which are both true).
3.3 she recently had sex with somebody and was just making a fool out of me! "hsv is std and there's no other way to acquire it but through sex". Although, I don't see anything about my wife that would make me suspicious and I don't think she ever has the time anyway with everything that we're busy with. Also, while most sites maintain that hsv type 2 is std and hsv type 1 is passed through kissing, I acquired my hsv type 1 when I was barely 12 years old and years before I had my first kiss. My theory is that I acquired my hsv type 1 after too much friction in my mouth and nose area when I had a cold as my first five experiences of hsv type 1 happened that way.

Thank you and I hope some doctors would give me a clear medical advice about this condition before this breaks my marriage.
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HealthySex

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Posted: 01-09-07 15:42pm

I'm not a doctor, but from what i've read about hsv ii it does indeed sound like a first-time breakout. Usually, reoccurring symptoms are not as heavy as you've described. Perhaps some itching and small sores, but everyone is different. I believe it has to do with the immune system, but some people rarely breakout with little problems, while others breakout several times a year. Again that'd be my guess, i'm not a doctor and haven't read that, and would wonder if it has to do with their immune system at the time of acquiring the virus (giving them good antibodies to fight it forever) or their immune system at the time of reoccurring breakouts (meaning sickness, stress, etc. Could have an effect).

1. Could be.

2. I'd say no. Hsv ii just like any other disease can be misdiagnosed. If it can be misdiagnosed, that means there are other diseases that similar signs and symptoms. See a doctor, get a diagnosis, and ask about possible misdiagnosis (what else could it be?). Did the women you spoke with have a name for the condition where it appears after menstruation?

3.1. It is possible to have hsv ii without any signs. Whether it can be dormant and come about 9 years later, I do not know. However, suppressed immune systems can make symptoms worse. So I suppose (but do not know, ask a doctor) that a strong immune system could keep her symptom free and then a weakened immune system allow it to present signs. However, as I understand it, diabetics have weakened immune systems and i'm not sure how much that rules out her ability to suppress symptoms all these years.

3.2. As I understand it, hsv I and hsv ii are different viruses. Both are possible to have in the mouth area and both are possible to have in the genital area. Though ii is more common genitally, and I is more common on the mouth. So i'd say it's impossible for hsv ii to form from hsv i, but I would not know if hsv I could move to the genitals (and with the severity described) from the reasons you presented (itching, etc.).

3.3 everyone has hsv i, wouldn't know the percentages, but practically everyone. Though, it may be considered generally from kissing, i'd think it could also be given by touch. Such as someone with a cold sore touching it, shaking your hand and you touching your face. Don't know though. It's likely that you got hsv I from a kiss from your mother or family member. Like I said, everyone has it.

I'd say go to a doctor and find out. Talk about misdiagnosis, the menstruation thing the women mentioned, possibilities of it remaining dormant, etc. There are underlying medical problems that could causes herpes as well.
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