Vaccines

Aborted fetal tissue is listed as human diploid cells.

Information on just what vaccines contain these cells can be found at:

http://www.Rense.Com/gen eral59/vvac.Htm

http://www.Vaclib.Org/ toc.Htm#ingredients

also general information on the dangers of vaccines can be found at:

(these sites also have onfo on aborted fetal cell lines used in vaccines)

http://users.Adelphia.Net/~cdc/< /a>

http://www.Vaclib.Org

http://www.Whale.To/vaccines.H tml

http://www.Thinktwice.Com

ht tp://www.Nvic.Org

That's doing it disgusting..

If all that sh*t is true my son is never getting a shot again.

I just have a question of which is more common? How many kids get problems from actually getting vaccinated? And how many kids are fine from it?

Natalia did u not get your son vaccinated at all from anything? Just wondering. I know some people are totally against vaccinating babies/kids. I dont know much about it so im not sure their reasons and im not trying to start a debate, I just wondered what your opinion is on them.

I just feel like i'd rather protect lucas from a nasty disease, which can cause severe problems, by getting him vaccinated, rather than risk him getting them.

Never heard of a vaccine for chicken pox, I guess its not offered over here in the uk. Chicken pox isnt all that bad tho really is it, and everyone seems to have had it -most while kids....I guess if I could protect lucas from getting it though by a vaccine -then I would.

That is disgusting. Layla has had the mmr and I did not know it contained aborted fetus tissue

i will still give logan the mmr though as the benefits outweigh the risks (to me)

Hehe trey's going for his 18 month shots today. He also got the chicken pox vaccine and the flu shot which he had to get as he is in daycare. To me the benefits outweigh the "nasty" side of things. It's not like they take the whole fetus and throw it into the mixture. Stem cells and such. People are stopping getting their kids vaccinated and these old diseases are coming back and stuff. Polio?? Not thanks. I got all my shots and am fine.

I personally would not give a child the combined mmr jab.
Way too many risks and there is the much safer option of having those jabs individually.

Sarah, you don't have to have your child vaccinated at all in the united states. There is nooo state where they can force you to do so. Don't be fooled into believing that it's true. I got into a battle royale with chu's first pediatrician about shots. He wanted me to give chu a vaccine that I was not comfortable with him having. I'm sure i've said it before but 3 of my nephews (now, tho at the time I think it was two and various other relatives) had severe, immediate respiratory side effects as soon as they got the dpt shot. All three (nephews) had to be rushed to the er and one developed pneumonia and was hospitalized for a week. The fool goat banging doctor told me that that was a chance that I would have to take. Hmmmm.....Yeah, i'm really gonna take that chance when we've a family history of severe reactions... needless to say I found a new ped. I talked with her to find out why the combined shot was causing the reaction and we were able to find a safer vaccine for diptheria and pertussis. Those I consider necessary because of the elevated risk of infant death. Now chicken pox is another story. He ain't gettin' it. Excuse my grammar, but I feel very strongly that a chicken pox vaccine is ridiculous. Not only is it not guaranteed to work it could also cause chicken pox. I don't need a seven month old with chicken pox and since he might get it later on even tho he's been vaccinated I really don't see the point. Every one has had it and I don't know a single person who's been seriously harmed by it. I think people are going overboard with these shots. Okay, i'm rambling. I'll stop now.

Chicken pox in childhood is rarely severe or dangerous. (i had it twice which apparently isn't possible but the ya go lol)

however, chicken pox in adult hood can quickly develop into shingles (iirc there is come correlation to menigitis with shingles *need to google it*).

My mom did not have chicken pox as a child but did get it as an adult and she was really ill for sometime because it developed into shingles.

Mumps also for the boys - in childhood rarely dangerous, for adult men it can be a primary cause of infertility.

Both can be life-threatening to an unborn fetus - if the pregnant woman contracts the disease for the first time while pregnant. (same with rubella/german measles).

I've never had the chicken pox.

I had it at age 4 and it's a happy memory for me because I got to stay home from school for two weeks and play board games with my mum and pap-pap all day long. I also got a brand new cabbage patch that my mom decorated with a red washable marker to match my chicken pox.

I mean, I have no family history of reactions, or any religious/philisophical beliefs.

Believe me, I was very intent on finding out the specific reasoning for each and every shot. Me and .Kay had this convo a loooong time ago...

Oni's ped actually told the hospital to hold off on her shots, as his office provided *mercury free* vaccines. Mercury is what causes many of the reactions heard about.

I think that preventing an illness, as opposed to letting them get it, makes the most sense. I mean we *are* talking about protecting our babies from harm.

I'm not gonna bash any woman that vaccinated their child, as we put our trust in the people with ".M.D" behind their names. And i, personally, ain't no doctor.

I also know that info found on the net isn't a good way to go about things. There are going to be *millions* of conflicting sights, and you choose which sit best fits your argument, ya know?

Reguardelss, all of our babies are helathy. Oni isn't going to *die* from getting the flu shot. Nor will she die from getting the chicken pox vacc.
(if there's a history of medical probs after shots, then yes, death is a possibility)

ok, ladies!! I've got hella errands to run!! I'll beee baaaaccckkk!!

Sarah

Cooorrect!

Sarah

Are you sure they contain aborted fetal matter? I guess I just don't see abortion doctors saving that stuff and storing it. I thought it was all disposed of as hazardous material.

Not trying to argue or anything! I just don't understand how that happens.

I would rather err on the side of caution. Alyvia's getting her vaccines because I would never forgive myself if she were to become sick later on. But that's me. I'm not knocking anyone who decides not to!

That is what I thought.