I Need to Know.......!!!! Posted: 02-05-04 06:03am
Hi everyone, I was just wondering wat is
classified as being anorexic? Like, wat
are the daily stuggles, thoughts
etc.........
Please, any one who is, was or knows an
anorexic (or bulimic) tell me your story
and experiences..........
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 02-05-04 11:56am
Stace,
first "anorexia" actually refers to a loss
of weight beyond the norm, & can be
caused by innumerable medical conditions,
medications, stress etc.
Anorexia nervosa is the eating disorder
but this is sometimes wrongly diagnosed by
a mindset of dr's described by my
daughter's dr as if all you have is a
hammer then everything is a nail. In
other words if your dr says teen girl +
weight loss = anorexia nervosa or bulimia
then that's what you're treated for rather
than saying, person + weight loss + other
symptoms + environmental/lifestyle changes
+ medications + tests as appropriate given
family & individual history = &
then you find the problem, the real
problem because even with anorexia nervosa
there is usually some initially causing
factor which so long as it's ignored the
anorexia is unlikely to be cured.
As to what other people
experience/think/do you are an individual
& shouldn't look to do or see if you
do what others do, that's looking through
the wrong end of the stethoscope. What do
you feel/do/think etc??
If you want to talk pm me.
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Stace
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jan 2004 Posts: 15
Posted: 02-06-04 03:03am
I understand, but I really need to know
wats normal and healthy, and whats not.
How could the docters get it wrong with
your daughter? Was she wanting to lose
weight? Was she showing signs of
anorexia or bulimia? Is she better
now?
Thanks for your reply
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purple333
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Dec 2003 Posts: 1420 Location: Sydney
Posted: 02-06-04 07:40am
First, with my daughter them getting it
wrong it was simple, they thought they
were god & they knew it all & they
chose not to hear anything or consider
anything other than anorexia nervosa
because she had lost weight & was a
teenage girl.
In fact they pushed her to the brink of a
breakdown. They refused to believe that
she was eating (despite plenty of evidence
from various sources, including themselves
once she was inhospital!!) they refused to
believe that she wasn't purging etc
despite their own tests proving she
wasn't. They refused to consider any of
the numreous & (in her case some were
highly probable) causes of sudden weight
loss eg medication(later shown to likely
be one of hers!)lifestyle changes &
especially food changes (eg move from city
australia to country -farm area - italy
for over 3 months inc major food intake
changes -also later shown to be a likely
cause for her), parasite & worm
infestation etc etc none were considered
& in fact the possibility of several
of these waas denied outright. Having put
her on food supplements they were still
unhappy with her weight gain but decided
to reduce her actual food intake which
they felt was too high but not reduce her
food supplementation!!
Second, what's normal & what's not?
It really isn't that easy. I know people
try & say it is but it's not.
People are different, they have different
food needs, like some people can not eat
wheat or gluten products, some can not
digest certain carbohydrates, some can eat
constantly & not gain alot of weight
yet not exercise much while others can
exercise but can't eat that much because
we have different metabolisms (fast slow
& in between).
My daughter can eat 5 main courses, &
7-8 desserts at a buffet she walks about 1
- 2 hours a day (that is a 30 min walk at
about 6, a walk to the shops & a 30
min walk to pick her brother up - that's
it, yet she's a slim as a reed. Her
metabolism is fast but now it seems likely
that she also has an intestinal problem
like irritable bowel so she's changing
what she eats to see if that helps.
Some people need alot more sweet stuff
than others (i need alot more salt than is
considered healthy because I have low
blood pressure).
So if you really want to know what is
normal how about giving some information,
like your height, weight, approx age
(growing teens need more energy than a
much older preson) how active you are.
Some people do alot of sport &
exercise (like athletes or people who just
enjoy sport & need to eat more to give
their body fuel so how active versus what
you eat comes into the whole equation of
what is normal??
If you think you're overweight at 200 lbs
or 80 kgs at height 5ft or 150 cm then
you're right but if you're 38 kgs or about
90kgs & 5ft or 150cm then you're slim
& may be underweight depending on your
body tome etc. So if you want to know
what's normal some starting point is
neeeded. Over to you, if you want answers
you need to give some.