Help Please, I Feel So Hysterical Posted: 01-16-07 18:43pm
I was trying to look for other sites with
information on abortion. I am sure I am
pregnant and am considering abortion. I
accidentally came across a couple pro
choice sites with extreme articles.
I was looking again for information on
places I could get counseling to help me
decide and a came across a very misleading
site. I thought it was going to help me
weigh the pros and cons and choose the
best choice for me.
I don't want to offend anyone in here, so
I apologize in advance for bringing it to
this forum, but I feel hysterical.
I saw pictures of babies limbs shredded
and tiny faces caved in. I am shaking and
I am sick. Please tell me these sights
are not real, that they are fabricated in
some way. It showed them scraping a
babies body remains out of the woman. I
came to the internet so that I could talk
to others who were considering abortion.
So I could prove to myself it was the
right desicion for me. I feel sick,
please, I don't know what to do
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Re: Help Please, I Feel So Hysterical Posted: 01-16-07 20:34pm
ifiwerenamedlola
wrote:
i was trying to look for
other sites with information on abortion.
I am sure I am pregnant and am
considering abortion. I accidentally
came across a couple pro choice sites with
extreme articles.
I was looking again for information on
places I could get counseling to help me
decide and a came across a very misleading
site. I thought it was going to help me
weigh the pros and cons and choose the
best choice for me.
I don't want to offend anyone in here, so
I apologize in advance for bringing it to
this forum, but I feel hysterical.
I saw pictures of babies limbs shredded
and tiny faces caved in. I am shaking
and I am sick. Please tell me these
sights are not real, that they are
fabricated in some way. It showed them
scraping a babies body remains out of the
woman. I came to the internet so that I
could talk to others who were considering
abortion. So I could prove to myself it
was the right desicion for me. I feel
sick, please, I don't know what to
do
i'm sorry to tell you, but those sites
sound like extremist pro-life sites, the
people who are against abortion.
Pro-choicers do not post propaganda like
that... And if they did, I am sorry.
Where you are in your potential pregnancy,
your abortion would look nothing like
those pictures; the fetus is too small and
does not look like a baby. Almost all
pro-life propaganda comes from late term
(ie third trimester) abortions where the
fetus is very well developed. We're
talking 26+ weeks here.
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Re: Help Please, I Feel So Hysterical Posted: 01-16-07 20:50pm
eiri
wrote:
i'm sorry to tell you, but those sites
sound like extremist pro-life sites, the
people who are against abortion.
Pro-choicers do not post propaganda like
that... And if they did, I am sorry.
Where you are in your potential pregnancy,
your abortion would look nothing like
those pictures; the fetus is too small and
does not look like a baby. Almost all
pro-life propaganda comes from late term
(ie third trimester) abortions where the
fetus is very well developed. We're
talking 26+ weeks
here.
eiri it depends how far along she is on
the pregnancy. Some of the sites pictures
are very true.
There is many non abortion sites just
plain reputable pregnancy sites that show
pictures of fetus at all weeks into it's
development so you can have an idea how
the fetus looks at your time of the
pregnancy. Just google search for images
of 6 week fetus and so on.
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Re: Help Please, I Feel So Hysterical Posted: 01-16-07 21:00pm
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
i'm sorry to tell you, but those sites
sound like extremist pro-life sites, the
people who are against abortion.
Pro-choicers do not post propaganda like
that... And if they did, I am sorry.
Where you are in your potential pregnancy,
your abortion would look nothing like
those pictures; the fetus is too small and
does not look like a baby. Almost all
pro-life propaganda comes from late term
(ie third trimester) abortions where the
fetus is very well developed. We're
talking 26+ weeks
here.
eiri it depends how far along she is on
the pregnancy. Some of the sites
pictures are very
true.
I don't want this to
turn into a debate but this is completely
wrong. Every "prolife" website featuring
disgusting fetal pictures that I have ever
seen have been disproven as authentic and
most have been disproven as pictures of
the products of conception following an
abortion. The majority of pictures that
show a large, nearly fully formed neonate
have been shown to be pictures of either
stillborn births or late-term
miscarriages. Even most of the pictures
of smaller parts have been found to be
completely false given the relative size
of the "fetus" to the other materials in
the photo compared with what a fetus should
look like at that stage. At 7 weeks, a
fetus is not going to look like a tiny
baby and you are not going to be able to
tell it apart from the tissue and blood
clots after the abortion. Even trained
professionals have trouble telling this
apart.
Quote:
there is many non
abortion sites just plain reputable
pregnancy sites that show pictures of
fetus at all weeks into it's development
so you can have an idea how the fetus
looks at your time of the pregnancy.
Just google search for images of 6 week
fetus and so
on.
you also have to be
careful about these as well. Most sites,
even reputable sites, use artist
renditions of what a fetus should
look like at that stage of development.
However, because it is an artists
rendition and not an actual picture, it
will necessarily be subjective to the
artist who produced it. Since artists
are human and most have an affinity for
aesthetic images, they are going to soften
the alien appearance of a fetus to make it
look more human. However, an 8 week
fetus (the time at which the vast majority
of abortions are obtained) does not look
like a little human so you should be
careful about the images you choose to
look at.
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Re: Help Please, I Feel So Hysterical Posted: 01-16-07 21:26pm
ifiwerenamedlola
wrote:
i was trying to look for
other sites with information on abortion.
I am sure I am pregnant and am
considering abortion. I accidentally
came across a couple pro choice sites with
extreme articles.
those weren't prochoice
sites. I can assure you of that.
Quote:
i was looking
again for information on places I could
get counseling to help me decide and a
came across a very misleading site. I
thought it was going to help me weigh the
pros and cons and choose the best choice
for me.
i don't want to
offend anyone in here, so I apologize in
advance for bringing it to this forum, but
I feel
hysterical.
your feelings are not,
in any way, offensive. Once upon a time
when I had a pregnancy scare, I went to a
"prolife" organization for a free
pregnancy test (not knowing what they were
really like). They made me very scared,
worried, anxious, and then very pissed
off. I know how you feel and it's
alright. Just take some deep breaths and
try to relax. Everything is going to be
alright even if it doesn't seem like that
is possible right now.
[quote]i saw pictures of babies limbs
shredded and tiny faces caved in. I am
shaking and I am sick. Please tell me
these sights are not real, that they are
fabricated in some way./quote] they are!
Take a look at the website I posted above
and the article about the most common
pictures.
Quote:
it showed them
scraping a babies body remains out of the
woman. I came to the internet so that I
could talk to others who were considering
abortion. So I could prove to myself it
was the right desicion for me. I feel
sick, please, I don't know what to
do
abortion may be right for you if:
-i believe that I have a right to choose
abortion.
-i am choosing out of thoughtful
consideration of my circumstances and
feelings.
-i have considered the feelings of my
partner and family.
-i can manage the finances of a legal
abortion.
-i am willing to make arrangements for the
abortion.
-i am prepared to handle the emotional
aspects of abortion.
-i am unwilling or unable to remain
pregnant.
-i am unwilling or unable to secure
medical attention throughout the
pregnancy.
-i am unwilling or unable to eat
nutritious foods and refrain from all
alcohol, drugs, and smoking.
Parenthood may be right if:
-i believe I am ready to assume the
responsibility of being a parent.
-i can accept the physical and emotional
aspects of pregnancy, delivery, and child
care.
-i have considered the feelings of my
partner and my family.
-i am willing to support my child and
consider my child's needs for the next 18
(i would argue 30+) years.
-i can arrange the necessary finances for
this child: medical care, food, clothing,
housing, education, etc.
-i will learn and practice parenting
skills.
-i have discussed my need for support with
those who care about me: my partner, my
family or my friends.
-i have considered the possibility that I
may have to raise the child alone.
-i am prepared to handle the emotional
aspects of parenting.
Adoption may be right if:
-i am prepared to handle the emotional
aspects of adoption.
-i believe I should continue this
pregnancy but cannot raise a child at this
time.
-i believe this child will have a chance
for a better life in another family.
-i am willing to get good medical care, go
through labor, delivery, and make adoption
arrangements.
-i have considered the feelings of my
partner and will inform him of his legal
rights.
-i can accept the probability of never
seeing this child again.
-i realize there is a possibility this
child may re-enter my life at a
later time.
I hope this helps. If you have any more
questions or need any more help, just let
us know. We want to make sure that you
get the true facts so that you can make
the best decision for yourself possible.
Peace,
jenn
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Re: Help Please, I Feel So Hysterical Posted: 01-16-07 21:33pm
nightangel73
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
i'm sorry to tell you, but those sites
sound like extremist pro-life sites, the
people who are against abortion.
Pro-choicers do not post propaganda like
that... And if they did, I am sorry.
Where you are in your potential pregnancy,
your abortion would look nothing like
those pictures; the fetus is too small and
does not look like a baby. Almost all
pro-life propaganda comes from late term
(ie third trimester) abortions where the
fetus is very well developed. We're
talking 26+ weeks
here.
eiri it depends how far along she is on
the pregnancy. Some of the sites
pictures are very true.
There is many non abortion sites just
plain reputable pregnancy sites that show
pictures of fetus at all weeks into it's
development so you can have an idea how
the fetus looks at your time of the
pregnancy. Just google search for images
of 6 week fetus and so
on.
she's so early she doesn't even know she's
pregnant yet. She wouldn't even be three
or four weeks along, if she is at
all. The images she is describing
are almost perfect examples of late-term
abortions.
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IfIWereNamedLOLA
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Posted: 01-16-07 22:07pm
Thank you very much for all your help. I
am certain that these are extremist pro
choice sites. There were many other
indications that they were not ligitimate.
I am not saying the pictures were fake,
but I know they were meant to scare and
haunt anyone considering abortion. This
were definitly not meant to simply inform
or educate from an unbias standpoint. I
am still uncertain of the the fact that I
might definitly be pregnant, though I
believe I am. I talked to my mom who is
being very supportive of me. She had me
young and has been a single parent to my
sister and I most of our lives as well as
having abortions which she absolutly does
not regret. I think after careful
consideration, and great appreciation that
I do have a choice, that abortion may not
be the choice I will pick at this time in
my life with my situation. I thank you
all so much and will be returning as I
learn more and continue reflecting. I
feel much better. Thank you very much
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jenn_smithson
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Posted: 01-16-07 22:39pm
ifiwerenamedlola
wrote:
thank you very much for all
your help. I am certain that these are
extremist pro choice
sites.
I don't want to make
this a big issue but those sites are not
prochoice sites. Prochoice organizations
are supportive of the individual .Woman,
her wishes, her life, and what she wants.
"prolife" sites are typically
unsupportive of any choice that is not
absolutely keep the pregnancy at all
costs. The sites showing graphic
pictures are meant to dissuade you from
choosing an abortion. This is something
that "prolife" organizations claim to
desire above all else regardless of how they
manage to do it. Thus, they often do not
have a problem with lying to
pregnant women in order to make the
woman choose what they think is best.
Prochoice sites want you to be informed so
that you can make the best decision for
yourself, not based on our own
opinions or beliefs about what you should
do.
Quote:
there were many
other indications that they were not
ligitimate. I am not saying the pictures
were fake, but I know they were meant to
scare and haunt anyone considering
abortion.
exactly! Does that
sound like something a group supportive of
the right to obtain an abortion (prochoice
people) would do?
Quote:
this were
definitly not meant to simply inform or
educate from an unbias standpoint. I am
still uncertain of the the fact that I
might definitly be pregnant, though I
believe I am. I talked to my mom who is
being very supportive of me. She had me
young and has been a single parent to my
sister and I most of our lives as well as
having abortions which she absolutly does
not regret. I think after careful
consideration, and great appreciation that
I do have a choice, that abortion may not
be the choice I will pick at this time in
my life with my situation. I thank you
all so much and will be returning as I
learn more and continue reflecting. I
feel much better. Thank you very
much
you're welcome. And as
long as you are happy and satisfied with
your decision, we are happy for you!
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Posted: 01-16-07 23:37pm
Jenn before abortion don't they do a
sonogram? That will show how the baby is
going on.
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Posted: 01-17-07 01:00am
Sure, and at 4-7 weeks it realy just looks
like a tiny blob on a screen.
I have had 3 abortions and I have seen all
the ultrasounds, there is not actually
much to see very early on.
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Posted: 01-17-07 05:23am
At the end of the day, it's not important
what the embryo/foetus looks like at
whatever stage of development - it's
whether you personally feel you can go
through with a procedure that terminates
the life of a developing human being.
That 'little blob' is developing and if
you have an abortion you are killing it.
Simple. Now, if you are okay with
doing that then it's your choice and, as
long as you are completely doing it of
your own free will and do not think you
will regret it then it is your right to do
so.
Your best bet is to avoid those sites that
are specifically pro-life and
pro-choice because they are equally
biased. Just educate yourself on the
procedures involved in abortion so that
you know what happens. If you do not
hold any special importance or
significance to the embryo/foetus then you
should not be bothered by reading what
happens to it during an abortion.
It sounds as if you have decided to keep
your baby anyway so perhaps this is all
moot but I wish you well in whatever you
decide. Remember that there is support
out there for you, whatever route you take
- if you're not religious though, be
careful to avoid the 'you're going to
hell' folks if you do decide to
terminate.
Keep us posted.
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jenn_smithson
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Posted: 01-17-07 12:12pm
carifairy
wrote:
sure, and at 4-7 weeks it
realy just looks like a tiny blob on a
screen.
I have had 3 abortions and I have seen all
the ultrasounds, there is not actually
much to see very early
on.
the first time my sister
was pregnant, she went in for her first
ultrasound and didn't tell anyone at the
time, but she couldn't even tell what was
the fetus and what was not. She was
depressed for several weeks after that
because she thought it was an indication
of what kind of a mother she would be.
Then, when they did that friend's episode
where rachel can't see it either, she
laughed hysterically. I think that was
her favorite friend's episode.
peace,
jenn
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IfIWereNamedLOLA
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Posted: 01-17-07 14:32pm
It was a miss type. I was bawling as I
wrote.
I am very well aware that pro-choice sites
are about choice..... These were to place
unreasonable guilt and fear on women
considering abortion.... I am certain
they were extremist pro-life sites.
Sorry for the confusion, but that really
wasn't the focus to debate.
I was just frieghtened by what I saw and
in need of support.
