Mid/low Back Pain During Night Posted: 01-19-07 14:57pm
I have been experiencing pain in my mid to
low back only during the night. It
usually only happens when I am lying on my
side, however lately it has been when I am
lying on my back as well. Usually
happens early morning (3am and on).
I have a good mattress, so I do not feel
this is the problem. We even added a
memory foam pad to the bed at one point.
Not sure if the problem could be something
beyond muscle pain??
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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Hristos
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Re: Mid/low Back Pain During Night Posted: 01-26-07 14:41pm
Back pain facts & statistics
although chiropractors care for more than
just back pain, many patients visit
chiropractors looking for relief from this
pervasive condition. In fact, 31 million
americans experience low-back pain at any
given time.1
a few interesting facts about back pain:
*
one-half of all working americans
admit to having back pain symptoms each
year.2
*
back pain is one of the most common
reasons for missed work. In fact, back
pain is the second most common reason for
visits to the doctor’s office,
outnumbered only by upper-respiratory
infections.
*
most cases of back pain are
mechanical or non-organic—meaning they
are not caused by serious conditions, such
as inflammatory arthritis, infection,
fracture or cancer.
*
americans spend at least $50 billion
each year on back pain—and that’s just
for the more easily identified costs.3
*
experts estimate that as many as 80%
of the population will experience a back
problem at some time in our lives.4
what causes back pain?
The back is a complicated structure of
bones, joints, ligaments and muscles. You
can sprain ligaments, strain muscles,
rupture disks, and irritate joints, all of
which can lead to back pain. While sports
injuries or accidents can cause back pain,
sometimes the simplest of movements—for
example, picking up a pencil from the
floor— can have painful results. In
addition, arthritis, poor posture,
obesity, and psychological stress can
cause or complicate back pain. Back pain
can also directly result from disease of
the internal organs, such as kidney
stones, kidney infections, blood clots, or
bone loss.
Manipulation as a treatment for back
problems
used primarily by doctors of chiropractic
(dcs) for the last century, manipulation
has been largely ignored by most others in
the health care community until recently.
Now, with today's growing emphasis on
treatment and cost effectiveness,
manipulation is receiving more widespread
attention.
Chiropractic spinal manipulation is a safe
and effective spine pain treatment. It
reduces pain, decreases medication,
rapidly advances physical therapy, and
requires very few passive forms of
treatment, such as bed rest.5
in fact, after an extensive study of all
currently available care for low back
problems, the agency for health care
policy and research—a federal government
research organization—recommended that
low back pain sufferers choose the most
conservative care first. And it
recommended spinal manipulation as the
only safe and effective, drugless form of
initial professional treatment for acute
low back problems in adults.6
the american chiropractic association
(aca) urges you to make an informed choice
about your back care. To learn more about
how chiropractic manipulation may help
you, contact a doctor of chiropractic in
your area. Search our online database
of aca members to find a doctor of
chiropractic near you.
Tips to prevent back pain
*
maintain a healthy diet and
weight.
*
remain active—under the
supervision of your doctor of
chiropractic.
*
avoid prolonged inactivity or bed
rest.
*
warm up or stretch before exercising
or other physical activities, such as
gardening.
*
maintain proper posture.
*
wear comfortable, low-heeled
shoes.
*
sleep on a mattress of medium
firmness to minimize any curve in your
spine.
*
lift with your knees, keep the
object close to your body, and do not
twist when lifting.
*
quit smoking. Smoking impairs blood
flow, resulting in oxygen and nutrient
deprivation to spinal tissues.
*
work with your doctor of
chiropractic to ensure that your computer
workstation is ergonomically correct.
References:
1. Jensen m, brant-zawadzki m, obuchowski
n, et al. Magnetic resonance imaging of
the lumbar spine in people without back
pain. N engl j med 1994; 331: 69-116.
2. Vallfors b. Acute, subacute and
chronic low back pain: clinical symptoms,
absenteeism and working environment. Scan
j rehab med suppl 1985; 11: 1-98.
3. This total represents only the more
readily identifiable costs for medical
care, workers compensation payments and
time lost from work. It does not include
costs associated with lost personal income
due to acquired physical limitation
resulting from a back problem and lost
employer productivity due to employee
medical absence. In project briefs: back
pain patient outcomes assessment team
(boat). In medtep update, vol. 1 issue
1, agency for health care policy and
research, rockville, md, summer 1994.
4. In vallfors b, previously cited.
5. Time to recognize value of
chiropractic care? Science and patient
satisfaction surveys cite usefulness of
spinal manipulation. Orthopedics today
2003 feb; 23(2):14-15.
6. Bigos s, bowyer o, braen g, et al.
Acute low back problems in adults.
Clinical practice guideline no.14. Ahcpr
publication no. 95-0642. Rockville, md:
agency for health care policy and
research, public health service, u.S.
Department of health and human services,
december, 1994.
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webmasterbill2
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Nighttime Back Pain Worsening Posted: 02-07-07 12:22pm
I have back pain that is very similar to
stephana's (the original poster's). It
has not arisen during the day, only at
night. It dissipates after I get out of
bed. The pain is rather general in nature
around the lower back, and feels to be in
the muscles, as if they were subtly tight
through the night and just wear themselves
out--but that's just a guess. The problem
began slowly, at least a decade ago
(roughly age 40) and has slowly gotten
worse. I start out in bed feeling fine,
but over hours the pain develops, usually
by roughly 3am, and increases, disrupting
sleep. It can be postponed by the usual
proper positions of lying on my side with
a pillow between my knees, or lying on my
back. Lying on my stomach is a big no-no,
it guarantees pain within just a few
minutes, though putting a pillow under my
belly does a lot to help delay that. (i
recently slept the whole night with a
pillow under my stomach--a big surprise to
me). I have a firm mattress with a 1-1/2"
memory foam topper. Up until I was about
40, I slept on a mattress that was *very*
soft (my wife called it a big hot dog bun)
and usually slept face-down. So I have a
life-long propensity to sleep on my
stomach, and when I do roll-over on my
belly unconsciously in my sleep, bingo! I
wake up in pain. I do exercise....I've
been jogging on a treadmill most days a
week, perhaps 5 miles each time. I do a
touch of free weight work as well. My
body weight is currently a bit on the
light side of average.
This problem has welled up quite a bit in
recent weeks, and is ruining my sleep. I
don't want to become an aleve "addict".
There is some increased stress at work
that correlates to the current flare-up,
but I can't say that's it.
Any comments? This is getting out of hand
for me.....
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Mike S
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Back Pain Only At Night Posted: 02-22-07 22:38pm
I am having the same problem as Stephana
and webmasterbill. I wake up between 2:00
and 4:00 every night with mid-back pain.
I end up taking ibuprofen or other pain
medicine and then finally go back to sleep
sitting upright on the sofa after 30
minutes to an hour. This has been going
on for almost 2 years now, and I've
probably only slept through the night 20
times in the last 2 years. I've had an
x-ray and MRI, both of which showed
nothing. I have been to a chiropractor
for an extended period, which did not
help. I've been to physical therapy for 2
different periods of time. I've also had
cortisone shots in my back and tried
several different prescription muscle
relaxers and vitamin supplements. Oh, and
I bought a new (expensive) mattress, but
that hasn't helped either. I feel like
I've tried everything, but nothing seems
to work. I am young and healthy and am
lost on this problem.
Seems like my back pain flares up more
when I am stressed at work and will even
hurt some during the day. The pain is
definitely muscular and is almost like a
form of cramping after lying down for
several hours. From everything I've read,
it would be considered myofascial pain
(trigger points). Seems like the doctors
can diagnose this problem but can't treat
it.
I've probably spent $4,000 out of pocket
on medical bills and buying a new mattress
trying to get help, but no luck so far.
I'm not giving up, but this is starting to
wear me down.
If anyone knows how to stop this pain
cycle, please help!
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mlwhner
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I Have Mid Back Pain At Night As Well! Posted: 07-23-07 00:31am
I am having the exact same issue as mike s
and the others. I wake up at about 3am
with muscle pain in mid to upper back. a
few advil helps but i seldom get through
the night. i wake up stiff but warm
shower helps and i'm mostly pain free
during the day. MRI showed nothing
major that would cause this. dr gave me
anti inflammatory but that did not help.
only warm showers and massage seem to
work.
i am adult male and thought it might be
fibromialgia but i don't seem to have pain
in other parts of my body.
i would appreciate any advice if anyone
with this problem has been able to cure
and/or improve your condition. it's
effecting quality of my life.
thanks!
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walt61588
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Back Pain At Night Posted: 07-25-07 03:41am
I have started suffering from this as
well, but it has been for a shorter period
of time. I wake up between 2-4 am and then
I have to get up due to mid/lower back
pain. Usually, by being upright it helps
and the pain lessens after half hour.
During the day I am fine and none of the
symptoms appear.
When I went to the doctor she prescribed
valium and a a lidoderm patch but they
aren't helping. Next it will probably be
some tests. She did say other conditions
could be causing this such as stomach
problems, heart, lungs, to name a few.
But this would also present other
conditions just not back pain.
I have even seen on the web that people
suffer from Irritable Bowel Syndrome and
have back pain. Unfortunately, it looks
like it could be caused by a lot of things
and figuring it out is the hardest part.
Good luck to you and hope you get an
answer. This lack of sleep is not fun.
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Sleepy Tony
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Mid back pain at night Posted: 01-21-08 01:25am
I have the same now. About 7 years ago I
had it for about 3 years and then it
disappered magically for a couple of
years. It came back about 18 months ago.
I've tried chiro's, new mattress, GP's,
Xray and CT. The first GP I saw couldn't
diagnose anything wrong. He actually told
me I'd live to be 100. Last year the GP I
saw said that I simply have a 54 year old
back! ( i'm 55 now ). This year (last
week), I am seeing an excellent caring GP
and I am undergoing a full set of tests.
There must be something causing this. My
gut feel is that because it happens at
night when our metabloism slows that it
may be a blood/oxygen circulation thing?
I might try Aspirin? I do know I have low
oxygen levels too.
I did have shingles about 7 months ago,
maybe caused by stress at work at the
time, and I wonder if this is all simply
stress related. Who knows?
Here's one from left field - don't laugh,
but I seem to think that I don't
suffer as much on the weekends, so I honed
in on that theory. Now, I sit next to a
set of electronic gates that scan freight
coming in and out of the warehouse. They
have a radiation warning sticker on them
to advise to keep about 50 cm away. I'm
about 1.5 meters away and behind glass.
Well on Thursday last week I moved desks
and that night and the 3 nights since
(today is MON) I have had pain free
nights. This week will prove interesting.
A colleague told me that he heard on the
weekend TV something about exposure to
radiation levels resulting in Iodine level
changes causing pain. Can't find
anything on the web about this though.
I will keep you posted on my testing and
theories, and would love to hear from any
of you regarding a cure or treatment...
cheers, Tony
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RichT
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Posted: 01-22-08 08:37am
Hello Stepana and others,
First thing that came to my mind om
reading your first sentence was "she needs
a new mattress". But you say you have a
good mattress. Perhaps.
First question is what type of mattress do
you have and yes, how old is it? And is
it a pillowtop?
When we are young we can sleep on almost
anything. As we get a bit older, our back
gets more "fussy" so to speak.
I'll look forward to your reply and then
I'll tell you what I know sleep on.
Take care.
RichT
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Jillshealth
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nighttime mid-back pain Posted: 06-24-08 06:41am
I have a very similar situation to you
Stepana and as near as I can tell we are
the only females complaining of this. I
tend to sleep on my right side (yes, I
have a good, firm mattress) and around 3
am or so I wake with mid-back pain. At
first, turning over seemed to help or
lying on my back. But nothing to do with
positioning, even sleeping on another
surface seems to change it now. My pain
seems to be off either/both side of my
spine, which makes me wonder if kidneys
could be involved. This started about two
months ago - and is now a nightly event.
Since your posting is over a year old, I
wonder if you've found anything more out
about cause or how to alleviate the
problem?
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cdg1
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Same here - quick question for you Posted: 08-10-08 13:41pm
Do any of you guys sleep with good
ventilation (windows open)? I read
somewhere a link that the kidneys struggle
and work overtime if they are starved of
oxygen and this would add up with the
other poster's info on metabolism.
Personally, I'm testing this theory but
the wife doesn't like a draught so I have
to relegate myself to the spare room!!
I also have problems (not back pain, just
overheating!) during the day if I don't
have a good supply of fresh air so perhaps
it's just me. It would be interesting to
know how others sleep though.
Let me know.
CDG
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friedclutch
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I've had this for 4 years now Posted: 08-11-08 05:37am
Hello all. I'm up yet again at 3:00 am
with a tight painfull back near
midsection. Tonight is notably worse than
usual. Its all the way up my neck.
To start off.... I'm male. 32 years old. I
have always been in good shape. 5'11".
155lbs. This started in my 20's. Have
tried a new bed, x-rys, doctor visits,
physical therapy ect.ect. This problem
comes and goes over the months. It's
generally always there, just not as bad at
times.
I'm a very active person. I can run a
mile, ride a motorcross track, air out a
wake board, and have no pain. I've had no
surgurys or broken bones in my life. No
serious injurys either. My back never
hurts when I am up and moving around or
durring outside recreation. It's when I
stop moving that the tightness and dull
ache starts. Sometimes even when I watch a
movie. I'm up every night a 3:00am like
clockwork and I leave the bed so my
tossing doesn't wake up my wife.
Like all of you I'm at a loss ane there
seems to be no cure. (other than getting
up and moving around) Physical therapy and
stretching exercises seem to help
sometimes. This really boils my blood
because I know many many people who arent
active, never exercise, never stretch, and
can snore all night long pain free. SO
FRUSTRATING.
I've seen three Dr's. All are baffled.
Going to try a fourth Dr next week as it
seems to be getting worse. 4-5 hrs of
sleep is maximum. I usually end up napping
on days off durring midday from the prior
week of crappy sleep.
Edit....
CDG, I do not sleep with the windows open.
I will try that but I'm in a similar
situation. My wife is an athsmatic. I
would have to sleep in the other room to
try it. Going to try it anyway now.
Also note. My twin brother has recently
been experiencing this on a less severe
scale. He says he does stretches before
bed and he's fine. I wish that worked for
me.
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weensta
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Posted: 08-12-08 07:12am
I have a very similar problem although it
doesn't just flare up at night. I cannot
lay on my left hand side on the sofa as it
gets painful after about half an hour.
This also happens in bed. I have tried
sleeping with a pillow between my legs and
this does help for a short period. I have
2 young children one of which I still
carry on my left hip a lot. I have been
prescribed anti inflammatories and take
pain killers before I go to bed and these
seem to help although would not like to be
doing this long term.
I have had an MRI scan which has shown up
a few hemangiomas and one of which is
concern is one that is 10mm so I am having
a CT scan tomorrow. THe doctor does not
know whether this is related to the pain
or not.
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tomato
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Posted: 08-25-08 17:45pm
I just used a herbal pillow, which was
heated in the microwave. It helped me
through the nite.
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krazykat
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Mid-back pain at night Posted: 08-31-08 21:52pm
I'm having the same problem, and while
it's good to see I'm not alone, it's
discouraging that no one has found a good,
solid solution or diagnosis. About a year
ago, I would have the middle-of-the-night
backache, waking me up. It was like a
painful tightening of the muscles in my
mid back and often felt as if it was
wrapping around to the front of my
ribcage. I would take some Advil or
Tylenol and it would go away within an
hour or so. Only happened about once every
4 - 6 weeks, but went several months with
no problems this past spring. Happened a
couple of times since then, but the past 9
days it has been EVERY night and it's much
more intense and long-lasting, often 4 - 5
hours awake after only an hour or two of
sleep. Went to the dr. a week ago, no
results from EKG and x-ray, given muscle
relaxers (worked one night and not since)
and painkiller (ditto) I'm becoming
sleep-deprived, and as a working mom to
two very energetic kids, I'm getting very
frustrated! Never believed in
chiropractors, but I'm starting to feel
desperate!
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jonzee
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Night back pain Posted: 09-04-08 14:41pm
My boyfriend is having the same issue.
It's always around 2ish and he has to get
up out of bed to ease the pain. I have
been googling and googling and nothing.
This is along shot... but maybe it's a
food allergy. I know it's a long shot and
it even sounds a little ridiculous.
I hope someone finds something helpful to
everyone.
To a pain free future!!
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littleonefb
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Posted: 09-08-08 01:46am
The best thing for all of you to do is
seek the opinion of a spinal surgeon to
evaluate and diagnose if you have any kind
of spinal problems going on.
You really need to see either an
orthopedic surgeon who specializes in
spines or a neurosurgeon who specializes
in only spines.
These doctors will examine you, have you
get any tests, x-rays, MRI etc that would
be needed and then determine the best
course of treatment for you.
Until you are properly evaluated by a
doctor that specializes in spines, you
will continue to suffer without any
diagnosis.
Good luck to all of you and let us know
how you make out.
Fran
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seajen
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try milk Posted: 09-23-08 12:45pm
I was having very similar pains to what
you all describe and I found somewhere
that a calcium deficiency can cause back
spasm and 'charlie horses' in your left
leg.
I tried drinking a big glass of milk
before bed that night and it worked.
Amazing. It might not be the same thing
you have, but I haven't had one incident
since I started drinking the milk before
bed. Can't hurt to try....
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NMT Therapist
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Very Curious! Need responses! Posted: 09-27-08 19:00pm
Over the years, I have encountered my
patients with this type of problem. I
have found that organ-referral is usually
present in some form. Every time, there
seems to be a different solution, with
different people, but all seem to cause
the same thing. Here are the things that
have worked, in order from most to least:
1. Stomach issues: Acid reflux,
heartburn, ulcer, etc.
2. Antioxident deficiency: Causing liver
stress, etc.
3. Low adrenal output: Adrenal fatigue
caused by excessive stress, and imbalances
in blood sugar by not eating correctly.
Anyone here identify with any of these 3?
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Mutdfan85
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Posted: 10-01-08 01:00am
I had some back pains from the way I sleep
and spending long time on the computer
(really uncomfortable chair at work) then
I started drinking a juice with Acai and
18 other fruits called Mona Vie and my
pains slowly went away. I now share it
with all my family and friends show them
how to get it for cheap and they love me
for it. Look it up.
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relli_87
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~~>PLEASE HELP<~~ Posted: 10-19-08 03:39am
For about a few months now I've been
trying figure out the cause of my
mid/lower back problems at night. I've
had several doctor appointments, but still
nothing was found. Until I came across
this forum, I couldn't believe all the
similarities I shared with everyone else.
Has anyone been able to find a solid
diagnosis? Or some way to control this
irritating pain that robs me of sleep!?
Please reply!