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Mommy35

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Posted: 01-21-07 15:36pm

I am really confused about the immunization thing. I know when my daughter was born (in 1990) everyone had their kids immunizations done and people that didn't were accused of being neglectful.

Now it seems things have changed a bit, due to new studies being done that links immunizations to autism, aspergers, or other intellectual challenges, etc. The pediatrician I plan to use is for shots and is hesitant to take jaylon on if we don't get them done on schedule. I'm not opposed to finding a new doc if I don't feel comfortable with them.

What do you mommies, mommies to be soon, and mommies to be someday think about this? What did you do? Can anybody link me to reputable web sites that will give me more info?

I should say that I do plan to breast feed

much appreciated
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Kia

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Posted: 01-21-07 15:39pm

Umm do we need to get into this again?
Only very recently it was hot topic right here
http://ehealthfor um.Com/health/topic80914.Html
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Mommy35

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Posted: 01-21-07 15:42pm

Sorry, I didn't realize it was a hot topic not long ago. I'm not able to get on every day. I don't want it to turn into a big battle, i'm asking a question.

Thanks for the link.
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Posted: 01-21-07 16:14pm

Yea kia can you lock this now before it gets really heated....
Of course every doctor is for immunizatoins, they make money off of them, and are given biased info from pharmaceutical companies that want to make money.
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Kia

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Posted: 01-21-07 16:34pm

I'll not lock it for now.

But if it does turn into another heated debate then I will.

Mommy35 if you need help with the forum functions, such as searching posts to see if there are one's similar, or anything, just holla at any mod (or supporter) and we will be happy to help you with it. Wink
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Posted: 01-21-07 16:52pm

I'll just say this and be done with it:

.I'm breastfeeding .Alyvia, and she has not gotten sick once. I'm not sure if that's completely to do with the breastfeeding or what, but there you go. We're also getting her immunizations on schedule, for her health and our peace of mind. But that was our personal choice. Do some research on them and speak with your pediatrician. Make the choice that's right for your and your child.

Good luck! Smile
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Posted: 01-22-07 04:28am

My son gets his shots, just because I think there are more kids that get shots and are okay than kids who do get autism and etc.

But....It's honestly just a personal choice. I don't care if another woman don't agree with it, it's your kid. I personally wouldn't want my child to be around another child that hasn't had shots but like I said, personal choice. Smile

and the fact that our schools here (in headstart and kindergarden) you have to have your childs shots up to date or else you won't be able to enroll them in school.
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Bridget

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Posted: 01-22-07 09:03am

I'm not willing to take any chances with my son's health so we'll be getting all his vaccinations and on time.

Personally I think the rise is autism has nothing to do with the shots, I think they're just more aware of the condition and they're seeing more and more mild cases. Now they're saying that maybe ultrasounds cause autism, are people going to stop getting those too?

Just do your research and do what's best for you and your child. It does come down to personal choice.
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Posted: 01-22-07 09:38am

My kids got all of their shots, because I know that even if the vaccine does not prevent them from getting the illness, giving them the vaccine will cause their bodies to generate antibodies, causing the illness to be less severe.

In my country we have alot of illegal immigrants that carry certain diseases, so I try to do what is necessary to protect my kids.

I myself was vaccinated and I have never contracted measels, mumps, chicken pox...... Actually nothing except the common cold and flu (knock on wood)

in the end its all up to you, read all the literature for and against vaccines and then make your decision in the best interest of your child.
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Posted: 01-22-07 09:57am

All you need to do is read up on it and make an informed decision on what is right for you and your family.
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Posted: 01-22-07 10:27am

I am choosing to not vaccinate. Because of the research I have done, I am not willing to take any chances with my child.

"there are numerous studies now that have shown a strong link between vaccination and asthma, allergies, eczema, leukemia, diabetes, autism... Just some of many problems associated with vaccination."

all of these things are much much more likely to happen than for my child to get polio or some other illness that they vaccinate for. Not to mention, the measles outbreak that occured in the midwest a few years ago, those were all cases where the people were vaccinated. Shows you how effective those vaccines are.
Rolling Eyes

one of the best books i've read is what your doctor may not tell you about children's vaccinations by stephanie cave.

she has thourougly done her research.


Here is some other info, this is specifically on the hep b shot:
http://www.909shot.Com/d iseases/hib.Htm

and if you read some of these personal stories maybe you would change your mind about vaccinating, not to mention read the vars reports:

http://www.Vran.Org/li nks/story-links.Htm


another article " vaccinations: why all the fuss?"

http ://www.Mothering.Com/guest_editors/quiet_p lace/134.Html
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Posted: 01-22-07 10:39am

I don't think that there is any reason that you shoud/shouldn't have them done. Just like I said before, look into it and go from there. Take the info that nat gave you and find some that are pro-vaccinnes and weigh the two and decide what you think is right for your family. Just because it's right for me to have them done for my child doesnt' make it right for you and yours. So don't be swayed one way or the other based on what is said here.
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:09pm

Thank you all so much for responding!!!!!

I have had all of my daughter's done and on time. I have even tried to get her the hpv vaccine, but my insurance won't cover it and it's super expensive. I had her immunized for chicken pox when she was 13 because she had never had it and I was so scared she'd get in as an adult and be really really sick. As for a child, I would let them get the chickenpox, as most everyone gets it and is fine other than a scar or two.

However, there was no link between vaccinations and other disorders then, so there was no question as to whether I should do it.

I don't really think that shots are the reason for autism, aspergers, etc either, I just think it's being diagnosed more now.

I'm just paranoid I guess. Again, thank you so much.
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:27pm

mommy35 wrote:


i don't really think that shots are the reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,



of course you dont, you havent done the amount of research on it like I have. I have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom, and I have found more than enough proof.
You know that in the amish community where they dont vaccinate, autism is basically non existant?
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:30pm

nataliachick7 wrote:
mommy35 wrote:


i don't really think that shots are the reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,



of course you dont, you havent done the amount of research on it like I have. I have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom, and I have found more than enough proof.

You know that in the amish community where they dont vaccinate, autism is basically non existant?


oh right your much better than us all because you do your research....Whatever.
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:32pm

I got trey all his vaccines. No one in my fam or my ex's fam ever had a reaction and I figured the pros outweighed the cons. You know what's gonna happen if everyone stops vaccinating?? All these old diseases will come back. Ya fun. Not for me thanks. My mom's godfather had polio as a kid and now has one leg and arm shorter than the other.
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:34pm

In all fairness though, .Nat, there are lots of things the amish don't do that we do. I'm not sure that it all comes down to just the vaccines. They rely very little (if at all) on technology. They don't use artificial preservatives or hormones in their food, for example. Not trying to argue with you love, just making a point!
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:37pm

nataliachick7 wrote:
mommy35 wrote:


i don't really think that shots are the reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,



of course you dont, you havent done the amount of research on it like I have. I have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom, and I have found more than enough proof.

You know that in the amish community where they dont vaccinate, autism is basically non existant?


i agree with cindy and I *have* done my research. They don't know the cause of autism, vaccines are a possibility but so are genetics. Personally, I believe it's genetics.

I also think that there are autistic people in the amish community, they're just not diagnosed as such.
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:40pm

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nataliachick7 wrote:
mommy35 wrote:


i don't really think that shots are the reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,



of course you dont, you havent done the amount of research on it like I have. I have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom, and I have found more than enough proof.


You know that in the amish community where they dont vaccinate, autism is basically non existant?


they have so many thought on what causes autism, some think its from an infection you can get when your pregnant, or genetics, or certain food additives....The thing with the vaccines is that some had trace amounts of mercury in them...But that is pretty much gone, when it get out to the public they took it out...I think there may be a small (very very small) amount in one but im not sure about that anymore, they may have taken it out of that one too

i honestly doubt its from vaccines

~alicia~

i agree with cindy and I *have* done my research. They don't know the cause of autism, vaccines are a possibility but so are genetics. Personally, I believe it's genetics.

I also think that there are autistic people in the amish community, they're just not diagnosed as such.
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Kia

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Posted: 01-22-07 14:13pm

There is a lot of evidence against vaccines, most of it isn't just hype - the facts are out there.

However, you have to weigh up your risks for yourself.
I mean you risk getting hit by a car every time you step outside your door - but you still do it.

If I was going through the decision making i'd be ok with the older vaccines that we can see have been ok for the most part - there is always going to be someone who reacts to something - it's a risk we take every day by breathing, eating, drinking, etc.

I however, would not be happy with the newer "combined vaccines" for instance the mmr. Which is the vaccine that has been linked with autism.

That vaccine is available in 3 separate vaccines which have been safe for a long time.

Yes, it means baby has to be stuck with 2 more needles but hey i'd rather my kid get the extra jabs instead of the new "combined" vaccine.

I was vaccinated and I still had mumps, chicken pox (twice), german measles (rubella), although I missed out on measles.

Discuss with your caregiver the fors and againsts.
But also see if there are alternatives to the higher risk options as in the case of mmr being available as 3 separate shots.
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