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Mommy35
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Immunizations
Posted: 01-21-07 15:36pm
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I am really confused about the
immunization thing. I know when my
daughter was born (in 1990) everyone had
their kids immunizations done and people
that didn't were accused of being
neglectful.
Now it seems things have changed a bit,
due to new studies being done that links
immunizations to autism, aspergers, or
other intellectual challenges, etc. The
pediatrician I plan to use is for shots
and is hesitant to take jaylon on if we
don't get them done on schedule. I'm not
opposed to finding a new doc if I don't
feel comfortable with them.
What do you mommies, mommies to be soon,
and mommies to be someday think about
this? What did you do? Can anybody
link me to reputable web sites that will
give me more info?
I should say that I do plan to breast feed
much appreciated
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Kia
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Mommy35
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Posted: 01-21-07 15:42pm
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Sorry, I didn't realize it was a hot topic
not long ago. I'm not able to get on
every day. I don't want it to turn into
a big battle, i'm asking a question.
Thanks for the link.
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 01-21-07 16:14pm
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Yea kia can you lock this now before it
gets really heated....
Of course every doctor is for
immunizatoins, they make money off of
them, and are given biased info from
pharmaceutical companies that want to make
money.
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Kia
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Posted: 01-21-07 16:34pm
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I'll not lock it for now.
But if it does turn into another heated
debate then I will.
Mommy35 if you need help with the forum
functions, such as searching posts to see
if there are one's similar, or anything,
just holla at any mod (or supporter) and
we will be happy to help you with it.

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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 01-21-07 16:52pm
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I'll just say this and be done with it:
.I'm breastfeeding .Alyvia, and she has
not gotten sick once. I'm not sure if
that's completely to do with the
breastfeeding or what, but there you go.
We're also getting her immunizations on
schedule, for her health and our peace of
mind. But that was our personal choice.
Do some research on them and speak with
your pediatrician. Make the choice that's
right for your and your child.
Good luck! 
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Sail Away
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Posted: 01-22-07 04:28am
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My son gets his shots, just because I
think there are more kids that get shots
and are okay than kids who do get autism
and etc.
But....It's honestly just a personal
choice. I don't care if another woman
don't agree with it, it's your kid. I
personally wouldn't want my child to be
around another child that hasn't had shots
but like I said, personal choice.
and the fact that our schools here (in
headstart and kindergarden) you have to
have your childs shots up to date or else
you won't be able to enroll them in
school.
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Bridget
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Posted: 01-22-07 09:03am
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I'm not willing to take any chances with
my son's health so we'll be getting all
his vaccinations and on time.
Personally I think the rise is autism has
nothing to do with the shots, I think
they're just more aware of the condition
and they're seeing more and more mild
cases. Now they're saying that maybe
ultrasounds cause autism, are people going
to stop getting those too?
Just do your research and do what's best
for you and your child. It does come down
to personal choice.
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foxy
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Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 487 Location: Nassau, Bahamas
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Posted: 01-22-07 09:38am
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My kids got all of their shots, because I
know that even if the vaccine does not
prevent them from getting the illness,
giving them the vaccine will cause their
bodies to generate antibodies, causing the
illness to be less severe.
In my country we have alot of illegal
immigrants that carry certain diseases, so
I try to do what is necessary to protect
my kids.
I myself was vaccinated and I have never
contracted measels, mumps, chicken
pox...... Actually nothing except the
common cold and flu (knock on wood)
in the end its all up to you, read all the
literature for and against vaccines and
then make your decision in the best
interest of your child.
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 01-22-07 09:57am
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All you need to do is read up on it and
make an informed decision on what is right
for you and your family.
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Nataliachick7
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Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 1535 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: 01-22-07 10:27am
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I am choosing to not vaccinate. Because
of the research I have done, I am not
willing to take any chances with my child.
"there are numerous studies now that have
shown a strong link between vaccination
and asthma, allergies, eczema, leukemia,
diabetes, autism... Just some of many
problems associated with vaccination."
all of these things are much much more
likely to happen than for my child to get
polio or some other illness that they
vaccinate for. Not to mention, the
measles outbreak that occured in the
midwest a few years ago, those were all
cases where the people were vaccinated.
Shows you how effective those vaccines
are.
one of the best books i've read is what
your
doctor may not tell you about children's
vaccinations by stephanie cave.
she has thourougly done her research.
Here is some other info, this is
specifically on the hep b shot:
http://www.909shot.Com/d
iseases/hib.Htm
and if you read some of these personal
stories maybe you would change your mind
about vaccinating, not to mention read the
vars reports:
http://www.Vran.Org/li
nks/story-links.Htm
another article " vaccinations: why all
the fuss?"
http
://www.Mothering.Com/guest_editors/quiet_p
lace/134.Html
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 01-22-07 10:39am
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I don't think that there is any reason
that you shoud/shouldn't have them done.
Just like I said before, look into it and
go from there. Take the info that nat
gave you and find some that are
pro-vaccinnes and weigh the two and decide
what you think is right for your family.
Just because it's right for me to have
them done for my child doesnt' make it
right for you and yours. So don't be
swayed one way or the other based on what
is said here.
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Mommy35
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Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 3165 Location: Vacationland, USA,
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:09pm
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Thank you all so much for responding!!!!!
I have had all of my daughter's done and
on time. I have even tried to get her
the hpv vaccine, but my insurance won't
cover it and it's super expensive. I had
her immunized for chicken pox when she was
13 because she had never had it and I was
so scared she'd get in as an adult and be
really really sick. As for a child, I
would let them get the chickenpox, as most
everyone gets it and is fine other than a
scar or two.
However, there was no link between
vaccinations and other disorders then, so
there was no question as to whether I
should do it.
I don't really think that shots are the
reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,
I just think it's being diagnosed more
now.
I'm just paranoid I guess. Again, thank
you so much.
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Nataliachick7
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Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 1535 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:27pm
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| mommy35
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i don't really think that shots are the
reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,
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of course you dont, you havent done the
amount of research on it like I have. I
have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom,
and I have found more than enough proof.
You know that in the amish community where
they dont vaccinate, autism is basically
non existant?
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:30pm
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| nataliachick7
wrote: | | mommy35
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i don't really think that shots are the
reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,
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of course you dont, you havent done the
amount of research on it like I have. I
have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom,
and I have found more than enough proof.
You know that in the amish community where
they dont vaccinate, autism is basically
non existant? |
oh right your much better than us all
because you do your research....Whatever.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:32pm
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I got trey all his vaccines. No one in
my fam or my ex's fam ever had a reaction
and I figured the pros outweighed the
cons. You know what's gonna happen if
everyone stops vaccinating?? All these
old diseases will come back. Ya fun.
Not for me thanks. My mom's godfather
had polio as a kid and now has one leg and
arm shorter than the other.
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:34pm
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In all fairness though, .Nat, there are
lots of things the amish don't do that we
do. I'm not sure that it all comes down
to just the vaccines. They rely very
little (if at all) on technology. They
don't use artificial preservatives or
hormones in their food, for example. Not
trying to argue with you love, just making
a point!
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Bridget
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:37pm
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| nataliachick7
wrote: | | mommy35
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i don't really think that shots are the
reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,
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of course you dont, you havent done the
amount of research on it like I have. I
have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom,
and I have found more than enough proof.
You know that in the amish community where
they dont vaccinate, autism is basically
non existant? |
i agree with cindy and I *have* done my
research. They don't know the cause of
autism, vaccines are a possibility but so are
genetics. Personally, I believe it's
genetics.
I also think that there are autistic
people in the amish community, they're
just not diagnosed as such.
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Idony
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Posted: 01-22-07 13:40pm
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| iheartmybostonterrier
wrote: | | nataliachick7
wrote: | | mommy35
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i don't really think that shots are the
reason for autism, aspergers, etc either,
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of course you dont, you havent done the
amount of research on it like I have. I
have piles and stacks of it in my bedroom,
and I have found more than enough proof.
You know that in the amish community where
they dont vaccinate, autism is basically
non existant? |
they have so many thought on what causes
autism, some think its from an infection
you can get when your pregnant, or
genetics, or certain food additives....The
thing with the vaccines is that some had
trace amounts of mercury in them...But
that is pretty much gone, when it get out
to the public they took it out...I think
there may be a small (very very small)
amount in one but im not sure about that
anymore, they may have taken it out of
that one too
i honestly doubt its from vaccines
~alicia~
i agree with cindy and I *have* done my
research. They don't know the cause of
autism, vaccines are a possibility but so are
genetics. Personally, I believe it's
genetics.
I also think that there are autistic
people in the amish community, they're
just not diagnosed as
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Kia
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Posted: 01-22-07 14:13pm
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There is a lot of evidence against
vaccines, most of it isn't just hype - the
facts are out there.
However, you have to weigh up your risks
for yourself.
I mean you risk getting hit by a car every
time you step outside your door - but you
still do it.
If I was going through the decision making
i'd be ok with the older vaccines that we
can see have been ok for the most part -
there is always going to be someone who
reacts to something - it's a risk we take
every day by breathing, eating, drinking,
etc.
I however, would not be happy with the
newer "combined vaccines" for instance the
mmr. Which is the vaccine that has been
linked with autism.
That vaccine is available in 3 separate
vaccines which have been safe for a long
time.
Yes, it means baby has to be stuck with 2
more needles but hey i'd rather my kid get
the extra jabs instead of the new
"combined" vaccine.
I was vaccinated and I still had mumps,
chicken pox (twice), german measles
(rubella), although I missed out on
measles.
Discuss with your caregiver the fors and
againsts.
But also see if there are alternatives to
the higher risk options as in the case of
mmr being available as 3 separate shots.
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