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Magnetic Therapy Posted: 02-09-07 03:24am
I was surprised when I found how little
information there was on magnetic therapy
in this forum. There is scientific
evidence to support it. The use of
magnets for healing goes back hundreds of
years, or even longer according to one of
the books I read. In the twentieth
century it was kick started again by
albert roy davis. He advocates using only
the north pole for healing. Other
researchers say using both poles work
well. I've used magnets (north pole) on
various aches and pains and they provided
great relief. I know other people who
have been happy with them too, so if what
your doing isn't working, you might want
to look into magnets as an alternative.
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mrs happy
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Posted: 02-15-07 14:28pm
I agree with you.
Try reading about pyramid power
fascinating
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matt182
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Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 93 Location: Australia
Posted: 02-15-07 18:35pm
There is also scientific evidence that
disproves it. Frankly, if it is to have
any effect at all, it needs to be a very
strong magnetic field, hence it is likely
to be a placebo effect.
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mrs happy
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Matt182 Posted: 02-16-07 12:55pm
Matt 182 if the scientists disapprove of
it I guess it has some kind of effect
then! Anyway if it works for what ever
reason that's good, maybe its just the
human touch that goes with the magnet?
(thought ) if the moon can move our oceans
and cause millions of women to ovulate ,
why can't a magnet effect the iron in our
bodies?
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matt182
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Posted: 02-16-07 17:36pm
Disprove as in concluding it has no
effect. And the moon doesnt cause women
to ovulate, or the tides of earth for that
matter. But anyway, its just another
quack product looking for money - after
all, it is a business.
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Eat healthy
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Magnetic Therapy Posted: 02-16-07 18:43pm
The entire medical industry is a business,
as is pretty much everything else. Does
that make you disbelieve everything
orthodox medicine tells you? Couldn't
magnetic therapy and other alternatives,
from a business standpoint, be considered
competition for orthodox medicine?
Studies can easily be manipulated. Take
vitamin c for example. Many studies
conclude that it doesn't prevent colds or
help people to get over them more quickly.
Those studies use ascorbic acid, vitamin
c in its least absorbable form, taken
orally in low doses (usually 100mg-500mg
daily). Look up vitamin c research using
sodium ascorbate orally in daily doses of
10,000mg-40,000mg, and injecting 100,000mg
or more daily, and you'd be amazed at what
vitamin c can do. Look up the research of
frederick r. Klenner, m.D.
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matt182
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Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 93 Location: Australia
Posted: 02-17-07 03:48am
Thats beacause those products work, you
dont see doctors or physios treat patients
with magnetic fields..Simply because it
doesnt work!
Anyhow your entitled to your opinion, if
you think it works by all means buy as
much magnetic therapy products as you want
:d
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Eat healthy
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Magnetic Therapy Posted: 02-17-07 13:09pm
Actually, some doctor's do use magnetic
fields with patients. They've used
electromagnets in hospitals to help heal
broken bones for many years. More
recently, they've been experimenting with
transcranial magnetic stimulation as a
treatment for depression. Some doctor's
use static magnets too. One argument
you'll hear is that only electromagnets
are effective, not static magnets. That
isn't true. There have been thousands of
studies proving the effectiveness of
static magnets, but many of them haven't
been published. If you spend some time
searching you'll find some of these
studies on the web. The north pole of the
magnet is the side that should be used,
and if the magnet isn't strong enough, and
isn't used for the proper amount of time,
it won't work. That's how studies on
magnets are manipulated. Studies that
show magnets don't work either use bipolar
magnets, which have a long history of
inconsistent results, use the south pole,
which will worsen the condition or use a
north pole magnetic field that is too
weak.
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ltbehlke
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Magnetic Therapy Posted: 02-22-07 13:34pm
I would have to agree with magnetic
therapy being effective for aches and
pains. My father uses a magnetic bracelet
to get rid of the minor arthritis in his
right wrist. He was skeptical at first but
now fully advocates the use of magnets for
those sorts of problems.
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matt182
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Posted: 02-22-07 20:53pm
There is no proof that magnets have any
healing powers, according to researchers
from Drexel University in Philadelphia.
Researchers say the lack of conclusive
evidence of any therapeutic value of
magnets in an editorial published in the
British Medical Journal. They point
specifically to problems creating
impartial studies where patients are
unaware they are using the products.
"Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary
evidence. If there is any healing effect
of magnets, it is apparently small since
published research, both theoretical and
experimental, is weighted heavily against
any therapeutic benefit," says Leonard
Finegold, Ph.D.
Studies carried out into benefits of
magnetic insoles compared to placebo
insoles (of aluminium foil) showed no
significant benefit using the magnetic
insoles compared to the placebo
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Eat healthy
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People will always try and make money when
they see an opportunity, it doesn't matter
what the topic is.
However, I have done a lot of research on
(and experimenting with) magnets and while
I don't know whether they actually help or
worsen health conditions, I really do
beleive that they do have an effect on the
body and the poles do have different
effects. I have noticed different,
repeatble, effects depending on the ways
magnets are used. It definately doesn't
seem to be a place-bo.
I have not seen any solid evidence (that
can be 100% beleiveable) either way. Until
there is solid evidence, no one can be
totally sure whether they help or not.
There are many things that we don't know
or understand and it is always possible
that we think we know/understand something
when we are actually totally wrong (which
does happen). Magnetism, I beleive, is one
of those things that we only have a very
basic understanding of. Our theory works,
but it probably doesn't include the hole
picture.
There are many different possibilities in
how magnets could effect the body. In
order to get acurate results from
scientific trials or experiments, every
possibility would need to be tested,
including using different strenghts,
sizes, positions and poles. It could also
be possible that users arn't able to
notice the effects - I know I didn't when
I first used them.
I originally used Alex Chiu's rings, which
used both poles of the magnets which were
positioned above & below the little
fingers. I felt many effects from these
including increase in body temperature and
more energy, but I stopped using when I
began to develop health problems (with may
or may not be related).
Since then I have used the north pole
only, in many different ways. They seem to
help my health problems, but as I can't be
sure, I don't use them very often. They
definately seem to help me to relex and
sleep though.
:d