Nataliachick7
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Fda: Rotavirus Vaccine May Harm Infants
Posted: 02-14-07 17:22pm
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Ap
fda: rotavirus vaccine may harm infants
tuesday february 13, 5:50 pm et
by andrew bridges, associated press
writer
fda warns of rotavirus vaccine
complications in infant patients
washington (ap) -- the government warned
on tuesday of potentially life-threatening
twisting of the intestines in infants
vaccinated against a virus that is the
leading cause of early childhood
diarrhea.
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the condition, called intussusception, is
the same that led to the withdrawal of the
first rotavirus vaccine eight years ago.
The food and drug administration said it
was unknown whether the recently approved
vaccine, called rotateq, caused the 28 new
cases. The condition also can occur
spontaneously. Indeed, the reports don't
exceed the numbers expected to occur
naturally each year -- the so-called
background rate, the fda said.
"it looks like this is the natural
background rate that we are seeing," said
Dr. Michelle goveia, medical director for
pediatric medical affairs at the vaccine's
manufacturer, merck & co. Inc.
Goveia suggested heightened concerns about
the previous vaccine, made by wyeth,
prompted the fda to act.
In tuesday's public health notification,
the agency said it wanted in part to
encourage reporting of any additional
cases of intestinal twisting or blockage
to help it assess any risks associated
with the three-shot vaccine series. It
also said the vaccine's label would
mention the cases of intussusception.
"it's a known serious, life-threatening
adverse event that is being seen at an
expected level postmarketing. But because
it is so serious, we asked the company to
change the label," fda spokeswoman karen
riley said.
Dr. Paul offit, the vaccine's
co-inventor, said the 28 reports were well
below the hundreds of cases one would
expect naturally. He suggested the fda
wanted to "shake the tree" for more
reports about the vaccine.
"i am actually encouraged by those data:
28 cases, when you would have expected at
least 500 cases, that is really
reassuring," said offit, of the children's
hospital of philadelphia. "i don't see
how those numbers suggest something's
awry. If anything, they suggest nothing's
awry."
the 28 cases included 16 infants who
required intestinal surgery. There have
been no reports of deaths.
Rotateq received fda approval in february
2006. At the time, the fda and merck said
trials of the vaccine involving nearly
70,000 infants indicated it did not
increase the risk of intussusception. But
merck and the centers for disease control
and prevention are conducting follow-up
studies of tens of thousands more infants
to track any long-term effects of the
vaccine. The fda also is monitoring
reports.
About 3.5 million doses of the merck
vaccine have been distributed in the u.S.,
though not all have been used, the fda
said.
The earlier rotavirus vaccine, wyeth's
rotashield, was pulled from the u.S.
Market in 1999 after it was linked to a
small increase in intussusception. It had
been on the market a year.
In the united states, rotavirus sickens
about 2.7 million children younger than 5,
sends up to 70,000 to the hospital and
causes 20 to 70 deaths each year.
Food and drug administration notification
on rotateq: http://www.Fda.
Gov/cber/safety/phnrota021307.Htm
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 02-14-07 17:34pm
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That's craaazy!!
But would it be the same if the child had
been previously diagnosed with .Rota
virus? Or do they even get vaccinated for
it if they've gotten it?
Do they give it to all babies? Cuz it's
not on .Oni's list of vaccinations that
she got.
Sarah
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 02-14-07 17:35pm
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| babymajic0506
wrote: | that's craaazy!!
But would it be the same if the child had
been previously diagnosed with .Rota
virus? Or do they even get vaccinated
for it if they've gotten it?
Do they give it to all babies? Cuz it's
not on .Oni's list of vaccinations that
she got.
Sarah |
im not sure what you mean by the first
part of your question.
But, its not a standard procedural shot.
But I do know that there are plenty of
docs that are pressruing people into
giving it to their babies.
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 02-14-07 17:37pm
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I mean like...Do they give the vaccination
if the baby has already been diagnosed
with .Rota .Virus. Or is it a prevention
vaccine?
Sarah
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 02-14-07 17:48pm
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I think they start them from birth with
there first series of shots, as a
preventative measure, had I seen that
article I think I woulda refused that one,
its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to
my daughter yesterday with her shots, they
do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become
twisted? Like are there symptoms tol ook
out for? I woulda thought that woudl be
listed on the paper about the vaccine.
Now that freaks me out just a tad
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 02-14-07 18:04pm
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| tinkinpink84
wrote: | i think they start them from
birth with there first series of shots, as
a preventative measure, had I seen that
article I think I woulda refused that one,
its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to
my daughter yesterday with her shots, they
do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become
twisted? Like are there symptoms tol ook
out for? I woulda thought that woudl be
listed on the paper about the vaccine.
Now that freaks me out just a
tad |
well it must be different in germany,
because in my area they dont give the
rotavirus vaccine unless you ask for it
spefifically or if they think your child
is at high risk-like if they were exposed
to kids with the rotavirus
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tinkinpink84
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Posted: 02-14-07 18:15pm
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| nataliachick7
wrote: | | tinkinpink84
wrote: | i think they start them from
birth with there first series of shots, as
a preventative measure, had I seen that
article I think I woulda refused that one,
its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to
my daughter yesterday with her shots, they
do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become
twisted? Like are there symptoms tol
ook out for? I woulda thought that
woudl be listed on the paper about the
vaccine. Now that freaks me out just a
tad |
well it must be different in germany,
because in my area they dont give the
rotavirus vaccine unless you ask for it
spefifically or if they think your child
is at high risk-like if they were exposed
to kids with the
rotavirus |
ya hmm I dunno, they get there shots at
the clinic on base, the pediatrician told
me the shots she was getting and said that
one too, like it was part of the standard
shot procedure. Like it goes along with
all the rest of the vaccines they get at
those ages I dunno. He didnt ask ifi
wanted her to get the shot or not just
told me all the shots she gets today. Or
course yesterday I didnt know about this
article so I thought nothing of it .
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 02-14-07 18:28pm
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It's not on amelia's list so nothing to
worry about here.
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Posted: 02-14-07 19:58pm
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| nataliachick7
wrote: | | tinkinpink84
wrote: | i think they start them from
birth with there first series of shots, as
a preventative measure, had I seen that
article I think I woulda refused that one,
its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to
my daughter yesterday with her shots, they
do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become
twisted? Like are there symptoms tol
ook out for? I woulda thought that
woudl be listed on the paper about the
vaccine. Now that freaks me out just a
tad |
well it must be different in germany,
because in my area they dont give the
rotavirus vaccine unless you ask for it
spefifically or if they think your child
is at high risk-like if they were exposed
to kids with the
rotavirus |
oni never got it either. It was never
even mentioned by her Dr.
So, it probably is on a need to know
basis. If children are becoming ill with
.Rota virus around you, it might come up
in a visit.
Sarah
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AyaMiyaki
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Posted: 02-14-07 21:30pm
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Isn't the rota virus vaccine the one
that's given by mouth? Alyvia's had a
sweet-tasting vaccine by mouth her last 3
shot cycles, and I think her pedi
mentioned that it was the rota virus one.
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:15pm
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| ayamiyaki
wrote: | | isn't the rota virus vaccine
the one that's given by mouth? Alyvia's
had a sweet-tasting vaccine by mouth her
last 3 shot cycles, and I think her pedi
mentioned that it was the rota virus
one. |
that's the .Rotavirus vaccine.
My mom is an .R.N working in a
pediatrician's office where the .Rotavirus
vaccine is a routine immunization.
Children's .Hospital of .Philadelphia
studies show that the incidence of
intussusception after the vaccine are, in
fact, lower than the incidence of
intussusception in the general population.
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:19pm
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Thanks, .Natalie. I was pretty sure I had
that right.
I think it's routine at our hospital, too.
She's had that one by mouth her last
three visits, and usually two in one leg
and one in the other. She only had one in
each leg yesterday, though.
Her pedi said she's up to date on her
shots until she hits a year old. Whew!
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anttm04
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:45pm
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If I recall correctly, the sweet tasting
one (is it pink?) is the oral polio
vaccine..
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:46pm
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It's polio? Really?
Crap, let me go get her shot record and
see what she had done yesterday.
*edit*
2/13/07
.D.T.P/.D.Ta/.D.T (a is lowercase on
purpose) - third round
.P.C.V/.P.P.V - third round
.Rota - third round
*double-edit to include vaccine names
after .Googling the abbreviations*
first one is diphtheria tetanus &
pertussis
second one is pneumococcal
third is obvious - rotavirus
Last edited by AyaMiyaki on 02-14-07 22:52pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:50pm
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I believe so..All my kids had a series of
oral polio vaccines (not just 1)..It was a
pink liquid...I was so glad they didn't
have to have a shot, so I remember that
particular one well..If the rotavirus
vaccine isn't a routine one (my kids never
had it, though my youngest is 7 ), then
chances are it wasn't..I remember the
chicken pox vaccine coming out..The
doctors were asking if I wanted them to
have it, as it was a new one...
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:54pm
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She had .O.P.V (oral polio vaccine) on
10/10 and 12/12, but not yesterday. So
she didn't have an oral polio vaccine
yesterday, it must have been rotavirus. I
think it was clear and not pink? 
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anttm04
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:56pm
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If it was clear, then it probably was the
rotavirus..I'd ask her pediatrician to be
sure (so that you know what she's been
vaccinated against..)..The only liquid I
remember being given to my kids was the
pink oral polio vaccine....
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Posted: 02-14-07 23:09pm
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They did not have the vaccine when my boys
were little and both of them had the
virus. My first son had it at 15 months
old, it started with vomiting for a day
and a half he couldn't even hold down a
teaspoon of water without it coming back
up. I took him to the hospital and they
sent me home saying he was fine. That
very evening it turned to diareah. That
went on for 2 days before seeing his
doctor on a monday he ordered him into the
childrens hospital and he was placed on an
iv for 2 days. My youngest contracted it
when he was 17 months old. Knowing from
what my first son had gone through I was
not about to let him go through the same
thing. So after 2 days of vomiting I took
him into the hospital and I refused to
leave until they gave him something to
make the vomiting stop and iv him to make
sure he would not dehydrate on me.
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Nataliachick7
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Posted: 02-14-07 23:21pm
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| ayamiyaki
wrote: | she had .O.P.V (oral polio
vaccine) on 10/10 and 12/12, but not
yesterday. So she didn't have an oral
polio vaccine yesterday, it must have been
rotavirus. I think it was clear and not
pink?  |
the book I am reading (what your doctor
may not tell you about childrens
vaccinations) states that the fda took the
oral polio vaccine off the market because
it was actually causing infants to
contract polio and many were dying from
it. They no longer use the oral
version-instead they now give shots and
the virus is dead rather then weakened.
Im sorry but I think its really messed up
that your doctor is still using the oral
vaccine.
Edited to add-they have plenty of the oral
vaccine left over, but its my
understanding that it is not really safe
to use it. The new shot version is much
safer.
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Posted: 02-14-07 23:39pm
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I dunno .Nat, .Alyvia had the vaccine at 2
months and 4 months and so far she's never
even had a cold. Do you remember if your
research said when the children contracted
polio after they were vaccinated?
Her shot record definitely says .O.P.V,
which according to .Google is "oral polio
vaccine". But she's had three rounds of
.Rotavirus vaccine which apparently is
also oral. She never had two oral
vaccines at once (i would remember that)
so maybe it's possible she received her
polio vaccines in a shot form and her shot
record card used the wrong initials? I
don't think they combine polio/rotavirus
into one oral vaccine, do they? 
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