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Fda: Rotavirus Vaccine May Harm Infants
Posted: 02-14-07 17:22pm

Ap
fda: rotavirus vaccine may harm infants
tuesday february 13, 5:50 pm et
by andrew bridges, associated press writer
fda warns of rotavirus vaccine complications in infant patients

washington (ap) -- the government warned on tuesday of potentially life-threatening twisting of the intestines in infants vaccinated against a virus that is the leading cause of early childhood diarrhea.

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the condition, called intussusception, is the same that led to the withdrawal of the first rotavirus vaccine eight years ago.

The food and drug administration said it was unknown whether the recently approved vaccine, called rotateq, caused the 28 new cases. The condition also can occur spontaneously. Indeed, the reports don't exceed the numbers expected to occur naturally each year -- the so-called background rate, the fda said.

"it looks like this is the natural background rate that we are seeing," said Dr. Michelle goveia, medical director for pediatric medical affairs at the vaccine's manufacturer, merck & co. Inc. Goveia suggested heightened concerns about the previous vaccine, made by wyeth, prompted the fda to act.

In tuesday's public health notification, the agency said it wanted in part to encourage reporting of any additional cases of intestinal twisting or blockage to help it assess any risks associated with the three-shot vaccine series. It also said the vaccine's label would mention the cases of intussusception.

"it's a known serious, life-threatening adverse event that is being seen at an expected level postmarketing. But because it is so serious, we asked the company to change the label," fda spokeswoman karen riley said.

Dr. Paul offit, the vaccine's co-inventor, said the 28 reports were well below the hundreds of cases one would expect naturally. He suggested the fda wanted to "shake the tree" for more reports about the vaccine.

"i am actually encouraged by those data: 28 cases, when you would have expected at least 500 cases, that is really reassuring," said offit, of the children's hospital of philadelphia. "i don't see how those numbers suggest something's awry. If anything, they suggest nothing's awry."

the 28 cases included 16 infants who required intestinal surgery. There have been no reports of deaths.

Rotateq received fda approval in february 2006. At the time, the fda and merck said trials of the vaccine involving nearly 70,000 infants indicated it did not increase the risk of intussusception. But merck and the centers for disease control and prevention are conducting follow-up studies of tens of thousands more infants to track any long-term effects of the vaccine. The fda also is monitoring reports.

About 3.5 million doses of the merck vaccine have been distributed in the u.S., though not all have been used, the fda said.

The earlier rotavirus vaccine, wyeth's rotashield, was pulled from the u.S. Market in 1999 after it was linked to a small increase in intussusception. It had been on the market a year.

In the united states, rotavirus sickens about 2.7 million children younger than 5, sends up to 70,000 to the hospital and causes 20 to 70 deaths each year.

Food and drug administration notification on rotateq: http://www.Fda. Gov/cber/safety/phnrota021307.Htm
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Posted: 02-14-07 17:34pm

That's craaazy!!

But would it be the same if the child had been previously diagnosed with .Rota virus? Or do they even get vaccinated for it if they've gotten it?

Do they give it to all babies? Cuz it's not on .Oni's list of vaccinations that she got.

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Posted: 02-14-07 17:35pm

babymajic0506 wrote:
that's craaazy!!


But would it be the same if the child had been previously diagnosed with .Rota virus? Or do they even get vaccinated for it if they've gotten it?


Do they give it to all babies? Cuz it's not on .Oni's list of vaccinations that she got.


Sarah


im not sure what you mean by the first part of your question.
But, its not a standard procedural shot. But I do know that there are plenty of docs that are pressruing people into giving it to their babies.
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Posted: 02-14-07 17:37pm

I mean like...Do they give the vaccination if the baby has already been diagnosed with .Rota .Virus. Or is it a prevention vaccine?

Sarah
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Posted: 02-14-07 17:48pm

I think they start them from birth with there first series of shots, as a preventative measure, had I seen that article I think I woulda refused that one, its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to my daughter yesterday with her shots, they do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become twisted? Like are there symptoms tol ook out for? I woulda thought that woudl be listed on the paper about the vaccine. Now that freaks me out just a tad
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Posted: 02-14-07 18:04pm

tinkinpink84 wrote:
i think they start them from birth with there first series of shots, as a preventative measure, had I seen that article I think I woulda refused that one, its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to my daughter yesterday with her shots, they do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become twisted? Like are there symptoms tol ook out for? I woulda thought that woudl be listed on the paper about the vaccine. Now that freaks me out just a tad


well it must be different in germany, because in my area they dont give the rotavirus vaccine unless you ask for it spefifically or if they think your child is at high risk-like if they were exposed to kids with the rotavirus
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Posted: 02-14-07 18:15pm

nataliachick7 wrote:
tinkinpink84 wrote:
i think they start them from birth with there first series of shots, as a preventative measure, had I seen that article I think I woulda refused that one, its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to my daughter yesterday with her shots, they do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become twisted? Like are there symptoms tol ook out for? I woulda thought that woudl be listed on the paper about the vaccine. Now that freaks me out just a tad


well it must be different in germany, because in my area they dont give the rotavirus vaccine unless you ask for it spefifically or if they think your child is at high risk-like if they were exposed to kids with the rotavirus

ya hmm I dunno, they get there shots at the clinic on base, the pediatrician told me the shots she was getting and said that one too, like it was part of the standard shot procedure. Like it goes along with all the rest of the vaccines they get at those ages I dunno. He didnt ask ifi wanted her to get the shot or not just told me all the shots she gets today. Or course yesterday I didnt know about this article so I thought nothing of it .
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Posted: 02-14-07 18:28pm

It's not on amelia's list so nothing to worry about here.
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Posted: 02-14-07 19:58pm

nataliachick7 wrote:
tinkinpink84 wrote:
i think they start them from birth with there first series of shots, as a preventative measure, had I seen that article I think I woulda refused that one, its an oral vaccine, they just gave it to my daughter yesterday with her shots, they do it at 2 4 and 6 mths I beleive.
How do u know if there intestines become twisted? Like are there symptoms tol ook out for? I woulda thought that woudl be listed on the paper about the vaccine. Now that freaks me out just a tad


well it must be different in germany, because in my area they dont give the rotavirus vaccine unless you ask for it spefifically or if they think your child is at high risk-like if they were exposed to kids with the rotavirus


oni never got it either. It was never even mentioned by her Dr.

So, it probably is on a need to know basis. If children are becoming ill with .Rota virus around you, it might come up in a visit.

Sarah
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Posted: 02-14-07 21:30pm

Isn't the rota virus vaccine the one that's given by mouth? Alyvia's had a sweet-tasting vaccine by mouth her last 3 shot cycles, and I think her pedi mentioned that it was the rota virus one.
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:15pm

ayamiyaki wrote:
isn't the rota virus vaccine the one that's given by mouth? Alyvia's had a sweet-tasting vaccine by mouth her last 3 shot cycles, and I think her pedi mentioned that it was the rota virus one.


that's the .Rotavirus vaccine.

My mom is an .R.N working in a pediatrician's office where the .Rotavirus vaccine is a routine immunization.
Children's .Hospital of .Philadelphia studies show that the incidence of intussusception after the vaccine are, in fact, lower than the incidence of intussusception in the general population.
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:19pm

Thanks, .Natalie. I was pretty sure I had that right.

I think it's routine at our hospital, too. She's had that one by mouth her last three visits, and usually two in one leg and one in the other. She only had one in each leg yesterday, though.

Her pedi said she's up to date on her shots until she hits a year old. Whew!
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:45pm

If I recall correctly, the sweet tasting one (is it pink?) is the oral polio vaccine..
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:46pm

It's polio? Really?


Crap, let me go get her shot record and see what she had done yesterday.


*edit*

2/13/07

.D.T.P/.D.Ta/.D.T (a is lowercase on purpose) - third round
.P.C.V/.P.P.V - third round
.Rota - third round

*double-edit to include vaccine names after .Googling the abbreviations*
first one is diphtheria tetanus & pertussis
second one is pneumococcal
third is obvious - rotavirus


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Posted: 02-14-07 22:50pm

I believe so..All my kids had a series of oral polio vaccines (not just 1)..It was a pink liquid...I was so glad they didn't have to have a shot, so I remember that particular one well..If the rotavirus vaccine isn't a routine one (my kids never had it, though my youngest is 7 ), then chances are it wasn't..I remember the chicken pox vaccine coming out..The doctors were asking if I wanted them to have it, as it was a new one...
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:54pm

She had .O.P.V (oral polio vaccine) on 10/10 and 12/12, but not yesterday. So she didn't have an oral polio vaccine yesterday, it must have been rotavirus. I think it was clear and not pink? Confused
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Posted: 02-14-07 22:56pm

If it was clear, then it probably was the rotavirus..I'd ask her pediatrician to be sure (so that you know what she's been vaccinated against..)..The only liquid I remember being given to my kids was the pink oral polio vaccine....
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Posted: 02-14-07 23:09pm

They did not have the vaccine when my boys were little and both of them had the virus. My first son had it at 15 months old, it started with vomiting for a day and a half he couldn't even hold down a teaspoon of water without it coming back up. I took him to the hospital and they sent me home saying he was fine. That very evening it turned to diareah. That went on for 2 days before seeing his doctor on a monday he ordered him into the childrens hospital and he was placed on an iv for 2 days. My youngest contracted it when he was 17 months old. Knowing from what my first son had gone through I was not about to let him go through the same thing. So after 2 days of vomiting I took him into the hospital and I refused to leave until they gave him something to make the vomiting stop and iv him to make sure he would not dehydrate on me.
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Posted: 02-14-07 23:21pm

ayamiyaki wrote:
she had .O.P.V (oral polio vaccine) on 10/10 and 12/12, but not yesterday. So she didn't have an oral polio vaccine yesterday, it must have been rotavirus. I think it was clear and not pink? Confused


the book I am reading (what your doctor may not tell you about childrens vaccinations) states that the fda took the oral polio vaccine off the market because it was actually causing infants to contract polio and many were dying from it. They no longer use the oral version-instead they now give shots and the virus is dead rather then weakened. Im sorry but I think its really messed up that your doctor is still using the oral vaccine.

Edited to add-they have plenty of the oral vaccine left over, but its my understanding that it is not really safe to use it. The new shot version is much safer.
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Posted: 02-14-07 23:39pm

I dunno .Nat, .Alyvia had the vaccine at 2 months and 4 months and so far she's never even had a cold. Do you remember if your research said when the children contracted polio after they were vaccinated?

Her shot record definitely says .O.P.V, which according to .Google is "oral polio vaccine". But she's had three rounds of .Rotavirus vaccine which apparently is also oral. She never had two oral vaccines at once (i would remember that) so maybe it's possible she received her polio vaccines in a shot form and her shot record card used the wrong initials? I don't think they combine polio/rotavirus into one oral vaccine, do they? Confused
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