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Sandbox Party

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Posted: 02-17-07 20:54pm

It just angers me off... I tried to establish my credit a few back and no one would give me any, saying it was becuase I had none.

Come on now.

How do I get it if you wont give it to me?

Now these people are just having it handed to them.

People who are born and raised in this country have to work .H.A.R.D to establish credit.

They should have to, too.
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Posted: 02-17-07 22:24pm

chase4 wrote:
well a head of lettuce is not a .Need its a want. And I was talking the same way sarah was talking about maily about construction people.


sorry but it applies to more than lettuce. And fruits and vegetables are a need. I don't want to die from something as easily preventable as malnutrition. And you didn't state that, she did. The majority of jobs performed by illegal immigrants are things like harvesting produce.
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Posted: 02-17-07 22:44pm

tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
well a head of lettuce is not a .Need its a want. And I was talking the same way sarah was talking about maily about construction people.


sorry but it applies to more than lettuce. And fruits and vegetables are a need. I don't want to die from something as easily preventable as malnutrition. And you didn't state that, she did. The majority of jobs performed by illegal immigrants are things like harvesting produce.
I have never heard of anyone dying cause they could not afford fruits and vegetables. And I have heard more about illegal immigrants doing constrution and cutting grass here. They are breaking the law they should be punished. Thats all I am gonna say.
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Posted: 02-17-07 22:50pm

chase4 wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
well a head of lettuce is not a .Need its a want. And I was talking the same way sarah was talking about maily about construction people.


sorry but it applies to more than lettuce. And fruits and vegetables are a need. I don't want to die from something as easily preventable as malnutrition. And you didn't state that, she did. The majority of jobs performed by illegal immigrants are things like harvesting produce.
I have never heard of anyone dying cause they could not afford fruits and vegetables. And I have heard more about illegal immigrants doing constrution and cutting grass here. They are breaking the law they should be punished. Thats all I am gonna say.


i said malnutrition. And yes people do die from malnutrition. Do you even know what that is? If you did then you'd understand how it's possible to die from not having fruits and vegetables to eat. Rolling Eyes
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Magical Logic

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Posted: 02-17-07 22:54pm

tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
well a head of lettuce is not a .Need its a want. And I was talking the same way sarah was talking about maily about construction people.


sorry but it applies to more than lettuce. And fruits and vegetables are a need. I don't want to die from something as easily preventable as malnutrition. And you didn't state that, she did. The majority of jobs performed by illegal immigrants are things like harvesting produce.
I have never heard of anyone dying cause they could not afford fruits and vegetables. And I have heard more about illegal immigrants doing constrution and cutting grass here. They are breaking the law they should be punished. Thats all I am gonna say.


i said malnutrition. And yes people do die from malnutrition. Do you even know what that is? If you did then you'd understand how it's possible to die from not having fruits and vegetables to eat. Rolling Eyes
yes I know what it is but but you make it sound like if you dont eat them you will die Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes edit cause I dont want to start drama


oh and my husaband dont eat fruits or vegetables and is not dead yet and he is 32 I guess he is gonna die huh Rolling Eyes
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tigresacanela24

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Posted: 02-17-07 23:40pm

chase4 wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
well a head of lettuce is not a .Need its a want. And I was talking the same way sarah was talking about maily about construction people.


sorry but it applies to more than lettuce. And fruits and vegetables are a need. I don't want to die from something as easily preventable as malnutrition. And you didn't state that, she did. The majority of jobs performed by illegal immigrants are things like harvesting produce.
I have never heard of anyone dying cause they could not afford fruits and vegetables. And I have heard more about illegal immigrants doing constrution and cutting grass here. They are breaking the law they should be punished. Thats all I am gonna say.


i said malnutrition. And yes people do die from malnutrition. Do you even know what that is? If you did then you'd understand how it's possible to die from not having fruits and vegetables to eat. Rolling Eyes
yes I know what it is but but you make it sound like if you dont eat them you will die Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes edit cause I dont want to start drama


oh and my husaband dont eat fruits or vegetables and is not dead yet and he is 32 I guess he is gonna die huh Rolling Eyes


doesn't mean he won't. And I sincerely doubt that you don't eat any fruits or vegetables. Maybe you should read up on it. Ignorance kills.

Http://en.Wikipedia.Or g/wiki/malnutrition
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Magical Logic

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Posted: 02-18-07 08:15am

This is the last time I gonna say anything else on this matter.............They whole point is that if they ae here illegally they should be deported. They have not right to be here. If they want to come to america do it the legal way.
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Posted: 02-18-07 10:51am

chase4 wrote:
this is the last time I gonna say anything else on this matter.............They whole point is that if they ae here illegally they should be deported. They have not right to be here. If they want to come to america do it the legal way.


do you have any idea of how the process works for an immigrant to come here? It's not as easy for people to come to the .U.S as it is for us to visit another country. I think people should be more concerned about the idiots coming in from overseas to crash into our buildings with planes....Those are the real threats, not someone here to make money so they can feed their families.

And I don't believe it's the fault of any immigrant that the boa is doing this...It's the .B.A.N.K.S fault! Nobody asked for the bank to do this. Rolling Eyes


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Posted: 02-18-07 10:59am

hopefulmjz wrote:
do you have any idea of how the process works for an immigrant to come here? It's not as easy for people to come to the .U.S as it is for us to visit another country. I think people should be more concerned about the idiots coming in from overseas to crash into our buildings with planes....Those are the real threats, not someone here to make money so they can feed their families.

And I don't believe it's the fault of any immigrant that the boa is doing this...It's the .B.A.N.K.S fault! Nobody asked for the bank to do this. Rolling Eyes


its is the banks fault. You're right .Mandi.

But I think a big point everyonei s trying to make is, why are things made so easy for immigrants?? (they dont pay taxes for like, 7 years, they get credit thrown at them, they automatically get aid from the government..) when everyone tht was born here has to earn it and fight like hell for it.

If they want to live here theyshould have to go thru what we do and pay taxes like we do.
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Posted: 02-18-07 11:01am

hopefulmjz wrote:
do you have any idea of how the process works for an immigrant to come here? It's not as easy for people to come to the .U.S as it is for us to visit another country. I think people should be more concerned about the idiots coming in from overseas to crash into our buildings with planes....Those are the real threats, not someone here to make money so they can feed their families.

And I don't believe it's the fault of any immigrant that the boa is doing this...It's the .B.A.N.K.S fault! Nobody asked for the bank to do this. Rolling Eyes


i agree. As with my post, it was the contractors fault for even allowing them to work being illegal when there were hundreds of blacks, whites, whatever, willing to work. But not for no 5 dollars an hour. Especially for a job that normally pays 10-12.

It is .Bank of .America's fault for allowing it to get so out of control. It, more than likely, started as a favor to a specific city/area, and word spread and they had no choice but to oblige.

I know it's not easy for an immigrant to become a citizen, but it's possible. And not *that* hard to accomplish. I'm friends with bookoo .Hispanic people whom allll have green cards. And got them on their own.

Sarah
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Posted: 02-18-07 12:46pm

babymajic0506 wrote:

i know it's not easy for an immigrant to become a citizen, but it's possible. And not *that* hard to accomplish. I'm friends with bookoo .Hispanic people whom allll have green cards. And got them on their own.




Sarah


it's harder than people think, especially if you're not coming here to work a white collar job. The easiest way is still to marry a us citizen. But they're cracking down hard on that now. I get a little pissy about the subject since if you really think about it this country was founded by "illegal immigrants" and I really get pissy about the california/texas immigration issues. It was part of mexico before it ever was the us. Hispanics are not the only illegal immigrants. I know a guy from france who's been living illegally in the us for 5 years. He came here on a student visa, dropped out of school and never left. That happens a lot. Oh and there are a lot of russians and polish people here where I live who are illegal. I know a girl named ina (not her real name) who has her whole family living with her illegally. They don't work though. She's trying to arrange marriages for them all. They pay big money for that. She asked me if I knew anyone for her cousin to marry. They're paying $7k. A friend of a friend (no names) just got $5k and when the guy gets his papers she'll get another $5k. Too bad I didn't marry an illegal. They pay good. Wink wonder where they get the money?


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Posted: 02-18-07 12:50pm

Forgot to add that I don't agree with the special benefits, though. They get I think 7 years tax free (but that's for legal immigrants not illegal). And business loans up the wazoo. I can't get a loan for a house. Definitely not fair.
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Posted: 02-18-07 13:07pm

chase4 wrote:
this is the last time I gonna say anything else on this matter.............They whole point is that if they ae here illegally they should be deported. They have not right to be here. If they want to come to america do it the legal way.



your ancestors probably had no right to be here and yet they still came. A pity for the rest of us... *sigh*
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Posted: 02-18-07 14:40pm

7k?!?!?! That's a hell of a lot of money!!!!!!!!!

Sarah
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Posted: 02-18-07 15:41pm

tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
this is the last time I gonna say anything else on this matter.............They whole point is that if they ae here illegally they should be deported. They have not right to be here. If they want to come to america do it the legal way.



your ancestors probably had no right to be here and yet they still came. A pity for the rest of us... *sigh*


haha Laughing
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Posted: 02-18-07 19:22pm

tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
i dont think they are stealing jobs fom the us citizens but most us citizens will not work .L cheapo. And if they were to stop hiring the illegals then they would have to pay decent money for someone to work for them.


then instead of paying 79 cents for a head of lettuce you can pay 2.79. Can't have it both ways.
i would not mind paying that much atleast the american citizens would be making money to suppot their family's


i would. I can't afford 2.79 for a head of lettuce. So in that instance the economy will be robbing me of the money that I make to support my family. All for a job that no one really wants anyway. Now what sarah said, that's a real issue. Not picking lettuce and strawberries.


and you don't think you are being 'robbed' when these illegal immigrants have children in the states and then proceed to get welfare for them? Think again. This is a larger problem than who is 'willing' to work on farms and who isn't. I'd rather pay $5 for a head of lettuce than pay for someone to live on my tax money illegally.
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Posted: 02-18-07 19:40pm

ingi wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
i dont think they are stealing jobs fom the us citizens but most us citizens will not work .L cheapo. And if they were to stop hiring the illegals then they would have to pay decent money for someone to work for them.


then instead of paying 79 cents for a head of lettuce you can pay 2.79. Can't have it both ways.
i would not mind paying that much atleast the american citizens would be making money to suppot their family's


i would. I can't afford 2.79 for a head of lettuce. So in that instance the economy will be robbing me of the money that I make to support my family. All for a job that no one really wants anyway. Now what sarah said, that's a real issue. Not picking lettuce and strawberries.


and you don't think you are being 'robbed' when these illegal immigrants have children in the states and then proceed to get welfare for them? Think again. This is a larger problem than who is 'willing' to work on farms and who isn't. I'd rather pay $5 for a head of lettuce than pay for someone to live on my tax money illegally.
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i totally, 100% <b.Agree.

Its one thing to want to make a better life for your family... But to come over here simply to take advantage of our benefits is wrong.
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tigresacanela24

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Posted: 02-18-07 19:47pm

ingi wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
i dont think they are stealing jobs fom the us citizens but most us citizens will not work .L cheapo. And if they were to stop hiring the illegals then they would have to pay decent money for someone to work for them.


then instead of paying 79 cents for a head of lettuce you can pay 2.79. Can't have it both ways.
i would not mind paying that much atleast the american citizens would be making money to suppot their family's


i would. I can't afford 2.79 for a head of lettuce. So in that instance the economy will be robbing me of the money that I make to support my family. All for a job that no one really wants anyway. Now what sarah said, that's a real issue. Not picking lettuce and strawberries.


and you don't think you are being 'robbed' when these illegal immigrants have children in the states and then proceed to get welfare for them? Think again. This is a larger problem than who is 'willing' to work on farms and who isn't. I'd rather pay $5 for a head of lettuce than pay for someone to live on my tax money illegally.
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first of all, in pa (i don't know about other states because I dont work with other states) you can not qualify for government assistance such as cash assistance, food stamps or medical assistance if you are not a us citizen or legal non citizen. For ssi (which is the only sort of s.S. Payment an illegal immigrant could qualify for without a valid work history) you still have to be a us citizen or legal non citizen.
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Posted: 02-18-07 19:52pm

rainfire1424 wrote:

i totally, 100% <b.Agree.
Its one thing to want to make a better life for your family... But to come over here simply to take advantage of our benefits is wrong.


i don't understand how you know every immagrant to come here is coming for benefits...If that were the case why isn't .Canada complaining? They've got great benefits!
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Posted: 02-18-07 21:14pm

tigresacanela24 wrote:
chase4 wrote:
this is the last time I gonna say anything else on this matter.............They whole point is that if they ae here illegally they should be deported. They have not right to be here. If they want to come to america do it the legal way.



your ancestors probably had no right to be here and yet they still came. A pity for the rest of us... *sigh*
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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