I've been experiencing the exact symptoms
of others, but without any hallucinations
or voices.
I do very well in school, but I am unable
to socialize like I used to. When I'm in
a conversation, I ask a lot of questions
and give one word responses. It's weird,
cause instead of talking out loud, I speak
inside (do you know what I mean?), and I'm
constantly analyzing what someone is
telling me, hoping to catch them in a lie
or con...sounds are somewhat louder and I
can't help but feel paranoid and watched
whenever I go out. Also, when others ask
me a question, I cannot seem to comprehend
it quickly, I'm constantly suspicious...
I feel like I'm being dumbed down.
I'm confused right now and I'm not sure
what reality really is...Maybe...I don't
know how to say this, but what if my brain
has evolved and understands things on a
higher level (maybe that is why I can't
have a good conversation with someone) or
what if I really have uncovered something
that is not meant to be known, or maybe
I'm really in a coma???...Look I don't
know if I truely believe those, but
something is wrong!
I talked to my family doctor and he will
send me to see a phyciatrist and get a
mental evaluation (How will he know what a
have, when these doctors made so many
mistakes before?)
I hope you can share your story, or tell
me what kind of symptoms you had, so I can
compare...Thanks!
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AbsentMinded20
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Posted: 02-27-07 22:12pm
The most common type of psychosis,
characterized by extensive withdrawal of
the individual's interest from other
people and the outside world and the
investment of it in his/her own self.
A mental disorder or heterogeneous group
of disorders (the schizophrenias or
schizophrenic disorders) comprising most
major psychotic disorders and
characterized by disturbances in form and
content of thought (loosening of
associations, delusions and
hallucinations) mood (blunted, flattened
or inappropriate affect), sense of self
and relationship to the external world
(loss of ego boundaries, dereistic
thinking and autistic withdrawal) and
behavior (bizarre, apparently purposeless
and stereotyped activity or inactivity).
I have all those symptoms. Furthermore,
please explain to me why I cannot control
it (have any of you tried? What
happened?)
Can this be something else?
Lastly, my dad was perscribed risperadol,
but he does not take it and seems to
control his symptoms on his own, although,
he can get weird and paranoid sometimes..
I am only 20 years old, tall, build
healthy guy...So, please I am desperate
for responses to my question and any
questions, comments or advice will be much
appreciated
I'm really sorry I wrote so much, but it's
been theraputic, Thanks a lot:)
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AbsentMinded20
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Posted: 03-01-07 18:27pm
Why isn't anyone answering?...I can
understand if you may be paranoid, but you
can at least write what you think, please.
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Birch
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Posted: 03-01-07 18:53pm
I'm not schizophrenic, so I can't give you
a first hand account of my experience, but
I do work in a psych hospital and I can
tell you what i know from that.
Your age is when a lot of first time
breaks occur.
You have indicated that you have a family
history of some kind of psychotic
illness.
You feel paranoid.
You are exhibiting grandiose thoughts.
(brain evolved, uncovered something not
meant to be known)
You listed symptoms of major psychotic
disorders and said you've got them.
It is hard to say one way or the other,
honestly, because most of the time
psychotics 'normalize' their behavior and
you are actually questioning it.
However, based on what you've said, it's
extremely important you go
see a psychiatrist. See, what happens in
mental illness is that the brain synapses
misfire and messages don't get sent right.
If you don't do anything to correct it,
you can cause permanent damage. The
sooner you get medicated, if you need it,
the better your prognosis. You should not
put this off. I have seen people in their
early 20's get meds and they are fine. I
have seen people in their 30's, 40's who
got no treatment and they are locked into
their own worlds with very poor prognoses.
They have to live in group homes and get
ssi and have poor quality of life.
Please, go see a doc! Go see five if you
want to be sure one didn't screw up. There
is nothing more important than your
health.
Best of luck!
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AbsentMinded20
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Thanks Posted: 03-01-07 19:33pm
why do the synapsis misfire?? What about
John Nash, the mathematical genius who
does not take medicine ?
About the braindamage- how those it
occur?
I have also heard the the medication is
bad for the brain...It makes someone very
dull and creates damage? can the doctor
just prescribe me anti-anxiety
instead...??
Yesterday, I was having a bad paranoid
day. My teacher lost my registration form
and my activation fee (come on, what are
the chances of that?), I went down to the
office and I was so...It was as if I took
drugs...I thought everything was fake, all
ment for me. Now, I have my doubts, but
it seems so unlikely and I don't
understand why I can't control this...I
used to be able to! I get hours/minutes/
or maybe even days when I had/have weird
thoughts, but I would be able to forget
about them and go on with my life, talk to
someone...Now it just seems like I've
dumbed down...ANYONE else get this and/or
any advice??
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Tylanas
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Re: Thanks Posted: 03-02-07 00:39am
AbsentMinded20
wrote:
why do the synapsis
misfire?? What about John Nash, the
mathematical genius who does not take
medicine ?
Scientists don't know all the reasons why;
they just know it does happen, and they
know how to help control it.
Quote:
tr>
About the
braindamage- how those it
occur?
The irregular firing of the synapses can
kill the brain cells and break pathways,
recreating incorrect ones.
Quote:
tr>
I have also heard
the the medication is bad for the
brain...It makes someone very dull and
creates damage? can the doctor just
prescribe me anti-anxiety
instead...??
it depends; and you may only be hearing
horror stories from the past history of
psychology and psychiatric care. It's not
like that anymore!
Quote:
tr>
Yesterday, I was
having a bad paranoid day. My teacher
lost my registration form and my
activation fee (come on, what are the
chances of that?), I went down to the
office and I was so...It was as if I took
drugs...I thought everything was fake, all
ment for me. Now, I have my doubts, but
it seems so unlikely and I don't
understand why I can't control this...I
used to be able to! I get hours/minutes/
or maybe even days when I had/have weird
thoughts, but I would be able to forget
about them and go on with my life, talk to
someone...Now it just seems like I've
dumbed down...ANYONE else get this and/or
any advice??
This is classic paranoia, and many people
get it. I personally don't, but many do.
The easiest, safest way to deal with this
is to go to a psychologist who will
evaluate you. If you need it, you will go
on mediaction, however all you may need is
some counseling!
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Birch
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Re: Thanks Posted: 03-02-07 08:10am
AbsentMinded20
wrote:
why do the synapsis
misfire?? What about John Nash, the
mathematical genius who does not take
medicine ?
About the braindamage- how those it
occur?
I have also heard the the medication is
bad for the brain...It makes someone very
dull and creates damage? can the doctor
just prescribe me anti-anxiety
instead...??
Yesterday, I was having a bad paranoid
day. My teacher lost my registration form
and my activation fee (come on, what are
the chances of that?), I went down to the
office and I was so...It was as if I took
drugs...I thought everything was fake, all
ment for me. Now, I have my doubts, but
it seems so unlikely and I don't
understand why I can't control this...I
used to be able to! I get hours/minutes/
or maybe even days when I had/have weird
thoughts, but I would be able to forget
about them and go on with my life, talk to
someone...Now it just seems like I've
dumbed down...ANYONE else get this and/or
any advice??
Hey absentminded,
There are chemical reactions going on in
the brain. For some reason, they are not
sure, it has to do with dopamine receptors
and serotonin receptors, when someone is
mentally ill or psychotic, the genes in
the brain activate other chemicals, and
the misfiring occurs. The synaspses wear
out and the long term effect of this is
illness that cannot be touched by meds.
That's why it's so important to see a
psychiatrist (a psychologist is different;
the psychiatrist can prescribe
medications) early on, so you can get the
meds that help those synapses fire
correctly.
The meds they have now are not the
shuffling walk causing kind of meds that
you have seen in movies and stuff. There
are many different kinds of medications,
and all the pharmaceutical companies are
interested in and working on creating meds
that have little to no side effects. They
want this because the primary reason
mentally ill patients don't take their
meds is because the awful side effects; so
they are constantly working to make better
drugs.
If you need medication (this is not a
'therapy only' situation for anyone-there
are biological factors here that need
treated like any other illness) you and
your treatment team will work together to
find a combination of meds that work best
for you. These may change over your
lifetime; they probably will.
The doc could prescribe you anti anxiety;
but if you have all the other issues you
mentioned previously there are better
medications out there for you.
Paranoia sucks. You haven't 'dumbed down'
you're just having some problems. Don't
minimalize what you're going through!
Please go see a psychiatrist. It's really
important!
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AbsentMinded20
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Posted: 03-02-07 17:52pm
Thanks a lot Birch and Eiri.
This news is pretty depressing; It's what
I feared for about two years now.
I'm having a hard time believing
it....Some times I feel like I can control
it. I understand people, what they mean,
there thoughts; sometimes it feels like
I've become smarter...I take advantage and
try to figure out as much as I can, just
about my life and things I
know...Everything sort of seems like its
connected- Thats when I can think in a
more complex way and I sort of make a
competion of socializing when I talk to
someone.
Other days, Its like I overworked my
neurons and disabled them, leading me to
feel confused.
I thought that the harder someone pushes
his brain the smarter it becomes...Is
schizoprenia like drugs- those is sort of
give you a cognitive advantage...but with
a price...What about bipolar?
The deprssion/anxety/cofusion I get really
makes me want to go to a
psychiatrist...the appointment is coming
up soon...
So, mental
hyperactivity=braindamage=confussion=depre
ssion...Is that what its like....What I
know is the brain is constantly changing
...y do some people need drugs others
therapy....It must be a flaw in
character....This...I feel like beer,
what do you think, what else should I
know, thanks
Peter.
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Birch
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Posted: 03-02-07 18:33pm
AbsentMinded20
wrote:
Thanks a lot Birch and
Eiri.
This news is pretty depressing; It's what
I feared for about two years now.
I'm having a hard time believing
it....Some times I feel like I can control
it. I understand people, what they mean,
there thoughts; sometimes it feels like
I've become smarter...I take advantage and
try to figure out as much as I can, just
about my life and things I
know...Everything sort of seems like its
connected- Thats when I can think in a
more complex way and I sort of make a
competion of socializing when I talk to
someone.
Other days, Its like I overworked my
neurons and disabled them, leading me to
feel confused.
I thought that the harder someone pushes
his brain the smarter it becomes...Is
schizoprenia like drugs- those is sort of
give you a cognitive advantage...but with
a price...What about bipolar?
The deprssion/anxety/cofusion I get really
makes me want to go to a
psychiatrist...the appointment is coming
up soon...
So, mental
hyperactivity=braindamage=confussion=depre
ssion...Is that what its like....What I
know is the brain is constantly changing
...y do some people need drugs others
therapy....It must be a flaw in
character....This...I feel like beer,
what do you think, what else should I
know, thanks
Peter.
Hi Peter,
I have read that people can really enjoy
the mania and ways of thinking when they
are schizophrenic or bipolar (There's
also a mix of the two called
"schizo-affective disorder) and that's
another reason they don't take take their
meds.
But you have to ask if it's worth it. I
don't know, I can't speak from personal
experience, but only from an observers
viewpoint. I see people who didn't take
their meds and they can't function at all.
It's not a flaw. It's not any different
than getting cancer or heart disease.
It's a biological problem that no one asks
for. It's not a flaw in your character!
But please dont make any assumptions
before you go to your psychiatrist. They
may have a completely different take on
what is going on with you. I'm just
someone online; I haven't met you or
talked to you. So don't be depressed
about it. It might be something totally
different. But please do go see the doc.
I hope you can get some relief!
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Schizomind
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Posted: 03-23-07 05:28am
"what if my brain has evolved and
understands things on a higher level"
This is it. People won't understand you.
Your critical mind works fine judging by
the way you express yourself. Actually you
are a victim of your own genius if you
keep drilling for advice in the realms of
the average. Yes you are unique and maybe
beyond that.
Embrace yourself and expand your genius
rather criticizing it.
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mkor4
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Absentminded Posted: 05-14-07 07:31am
[DEAR ABSENTMINDED
How are things now?
I have some similar symptoms to you
eg:things sounding
louder,confusion,feeling "dumber" but also
like as if having these symptoms forces
you to have more insight into yourself
etc.
i am 27 year old Female and am otherwise
healthy.
I don't have any classical psychosis
symptoms either eg:hearing voices
Do you get any physical symptoms?
As for medication I can only speak for
myself that the medications that I've
taken haven't "damaged my brain" but some
medications do have horrible sedating side
effects while others have none or next to
none-they affect different people
differently.In my situation i've tried
numerous medications from
antipsychotic,antidepressant,antianxiety
and anticonvulsant classes and none have
worked.I've also tried natural
therapies,reiki etc that hasn't worked
either
quote="Schizomind"]"what if my brain has
evolved and understands things on a higher
level"
This is it. People won't understand you.
Your critical mind works fine judging by
the way you express yourself. Actually you
are a victim of your own genius if you
keep drilling for advice in the realms of
the average. Yes you are unique and maybe
beyond that.
Embrace yourself and expand your genius
rather criticizing it.[/quote]