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zigg

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Posted: 04-01-07 14:34pm

Right, well most websites use the method in context of being a solution to end premature ejaculation. So that's frustrating and I think it should be understood this is not a valid solution.
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JD33

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Posted: 04-01-07 15:31pm

Just like the rest of the guys on this thread, I have PE. At times it has been better at other times worse. For myself I believe it is due to having some strong sexual hang ups that resulted in not having sex til 22. Thus, I was always super excited and would lose control too quickly. In addition, I was doing a lot of drugs when I started having sex so I didn't really get the right feel for it. Had a regular gf for 3 years but unfortunately she didn't really work on it with me. Wasn't the greatest of girls... Anyway, as I said, I have at times been better with it.

The thing that worked for me was similar to Stop Start, I guess. I would masturbate in bed and then stop before I could come (wasn't always successful with stopping of course, hello laundry). After doing this for a while I could start to feel the sensation that presaged orgasm. I then learned to channel that feeling into a different route. For me, it felt like a little lightning bolt heading to my genitals and I found that I could make that energy go into another series of thrusts instead of an orgasm. My gf even noticed and was like, "wow you've gotten so much better." That actually kinda messed things up for me and made me feel more self-conscious despite having had a couple pretty good sessions of around ten minutes of thrusting.

Our relationship was in trouble from a lot of other things as well and didn't last much longer. I then stupidly stopped practicing and stopped being social. Now I find that I'm having PE problems again but I'm starting to practice once more as I'm dating and want some good sex. It is very rough and I'm pissed that I ever let myself revert to bad form.

Bottom line is, try practicing until you can identify when an orgasm is coming and try to divert that feeling; not saying it will work for everyone but hopefully it helps out a few guys having the same issues. Also, have some self confidence that you can fix this, that might be the most important thing because if you're sure you can do nothing than you are defeated before you start.

Oh yeah one more thing, kegels do help with what I was doing because having strong muscles makes it easier to channel that energy and clamp down on impending orgasms.

Hope that helps a little. Goodness knows I'm no expert and still practicing alot.


Last edited by JD33 on 04-03-07 00:35am; edited 1 time in total
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zigg

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Posted: 04-01-07 15:36pm

"Bottom line is, try practicing until you can identify when an orgasm is coming and try to divert that feeling; not saying it will work for everyone but hopefully it helps out a few guys having the same issues."

Hi JD33,

What do you mean by divert the feeling?
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JD33

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Posted: 04-01-07 15:48pm

As I said, the feeling was like a little lightning bolt for me. It would happen and then bam I would come. Same thing while I was actually having sex, we'd be going at it and within a couple minutes I'd suddenly come. Wasn't even a good orgasm when that was happening. By practicing while masturbating I started to feel that lightning bolt coming on first and would attempt to resist it. It really felt like energy flowing to my genitals, muscles in the region, penis, testicles, everything. So, instead of letting that energy set me off, I resisted and would thrust as if I was in my girl. This eventually made it so that the feeling/energy didn't set me off, it just became part of my normal thrusting. I think maybe it made it so that my muscles weren't contracting for orgasm and were instead just continuing the thrusting. Man, I'm sorry I'm not better at explaining but to be honest I'm not even that good at doing it anymore. Been a while.
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zigg

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Posted: 04-01-07 19:48pm

No worries at all, I'm just curious because no matter what I do I can't divert it... I'm almost too aware of the sensations, once they arrive they're around to chill out.

You say you were clockin' 10 minutes when you figured it out for a time? Damn, that's like regular folk sex. A marathon in my book. What types of times were you reaching before that?
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Posted: 04-02-07 07:42am

Got my little spray bottle of Stud Spray in the mail on Friday. Wife asked "So whats it do, make it numb?" "yes, i replied"

we had a nice night out, dinner without the kids and did some shopping. Get back home and she starts a bath. We get in and just kinda lay there relaxing and talking. So far no problems, not even hard. Then she starts rubbing my legs and such, she spins around and sits in between my legs and rests her body against my chest. Instant boner. Bathtub sex is awesome, if you haven't tried it I highly recommend you do it tonight.

I tried to lift her up onto my lap and slip in. "Not in the tub tonight, it doesn't feel as good. I don't feel it as much."

"Hmm, wish I could say that" I say to myself.

We get out after another 10 minutes and towel off. She heads to the bed and I stall, "I have to shave" I tell her. Actually I did, she likes my face stubble free. So before I shave I get out the Stud spray and squirt two short squirts onto my head and shaft. In my haste I get some on my balls too, not good. More about that later. Not sure how this is gonna work I think, is 2 to many or not enough? Will it work without waiting the required time? I get done shaving and reach down and kinda touch/play with my dick. Feels numb. Awesome its working already.

Without giving to many graphic details - I got hard, stayed hard and I was able to thrust long, hard and fast - we stopped twice, because SHE was to close to cumming, NOT ME!!!

Guys let me tell you - the feeling was the greatest thing I can recall in my life, sex-wise. She used the words, and I quote "That was so good, so intense"

This was the first time we've had sex since I started taking Saw Pamaletto (sp?) and I can say with 100% confidence that since I started taking it my dick feels thicker, longer and firmer when hard.This stuff really works (for me anyway) to improve the blood flow. So with that feeling combined with not having to pull out every 5 seconds (have I mentioned I HATE the stop start technique??) I was able to bang away fast and furious and satisfy her. God what a feeling! The only drawback was when I came, it wasn't as intense as normal, no toe curling, leg cramping cum like normal. Maybe I'll try just 1 squirt next time.

Now, back to my balls. Directions say that you need to wash off when done. So I headed to the bathroom and started washing off my dick. My balls burned when the water touched them. It felt like I was dousing them with hot scalding water. I highly recommend that you don't get any spray on them if you try this stuff. My dick also stayed erect for quite awhile afterwards which was kinda cool, we could've done it again if we had wanted to .

Saturday night as we laid in bed I knew we weren't gonna have sex, she rarely is in the mood two nights in a row, especially since she really got it good the night before Wink - however, she did surprise me with one of her amazing hand jobs. WIthout the spray though it was over in half a minute or so, but I did have the toe curling, leg cramp orgasm.

Next time I'll use the spray to see how it works with hand jobs and then oral.

I know its a band-aid fix but until something better comes along this was a big success in my book.

Mike
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zigg

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Posted: 04-02-07 14:55pm

Hi Mike, which spray was that again?
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Posted: 04-02-07 15:22pm

zigg wrote:
Hi Mike, which spray was that again?


Stud spray, fairly inexpensive. got it from vitaminworld or vitamindeal somegthing like that.
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Posted: 04-02-07 16:49pm

Hey Mike, glad to hear of your success. Band-aid fix or not.

Though, I have a question for curiosity if you don't mind answering. Why did you stop when your wife was too close to cumming? Is she not multi-orgasmic, or does she get too ticklish and can't be touched after orgasm?

If it's because she gets ticklish, I understand. Depending on how long she needs to relax, it may be too long for you to wait if your penis numbed.

If it's because she's not multi-orgasmic, that can often be learned. There's a video on how to get a woman to become multi-orgasmic and a squirter. It involves massaging and stimulation on your part. I forget her responsibility and training. I suppose not every last woman on earth can be taught (the healthier and more balanced, the easier probably), but it's worth a try. People at another forum I'm at have raved about it. I plan on trying it as soon as I have a serious partner.

You can find the video at Puretna. Just go to browse and type "squirting orgasms" into the search box. Be sure to use the quotation marks. The video called How To Make Her Cum is the one. I'm sure there are more videos, books and trainings, but that's the one I've heard people talk about. I'm sure you could find it elsewhere too.


Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Just wanted to get everyone's attention here, because I may have run across a little serendipity while searching the other forum for the video mentioned above.

I haven't read it yet, as I'm about to step out. However, as we all know we need to relax our pelvic floor muscles and here's a page I ran across that explains some techniques on how to do it. Probably more fully than just plain old relaxing a muscle. So here it is, I'll check it out later...

http://www. umaatantra.com/relaxing_below_051004.html< /a>
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JD33

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Posted: 04-02-07 17:20pm

zigg wrote:
No worries at all, I'm just curious because no matter what I do I can't divert it... I'm almost too aware of the sensations, once they arrive they're around to chill out.

You say you were clockin' 10 minutes when you figured it out for a time? Damn, that's like regular folk sex. A marathon in my book. What types of times were you reaching before that?


Before that it was generally 2 min. On rare occasions it would be a little more but never approaching the time that I got with that extra control. Yeah, lol that was a marathon for me as well.
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Posted: 04-02-07 18:17pm

Mike I'm glad you enjoyed the spray. It's been working well for me for a long time. Doesn't it feel awesome that you can pound away without worrying about cumming? You sacrafice some feelings to yourself, but it makes you feel more confident that you can please your lady. It also gives you an opportunity to try many different positions in one session.

This weekend, we had a good amount of time to fool around. She was really hot for it, so I wanted to make it last really long. So I used a couple of sprays of stud and a performax (densensitizing) condom. It really really numbed me. We were going at it for awhile, trying a lot of different positions. I ended up tiring her out, and I could not cum. So I got her to use her hand (which I find really hot). Still could not cum. Finally, she just gave me head, and hello, bang, done...
You have to experiment with different amounts of the spray.
Although it took me a long time to cum, I absolutely enjoyed every minute

Mike are you glad you got the spray? Are you going to use it from not on?
Like you said, try using it before she gives you a handjob. You may last many minutes as opposed to seconds.
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Posted: 04-02-07 21:41pm

HealthySex, thanks for the replies concerning anti-depressants. I don't think I want to go that route right now. I think my fiance would rather me remain level-headed and keep my personality the way it is. Although I go through some boughts of depression, but it has been a lot better since I've gotten older. Like you said, I'm sure each medication, affects each individual differently. I don't think I want to go through that process. That's what bothers me about medication, trying to figure out if something is a real side-effect or if something else is going on.

I also took a look at the tantric site. I've heard something similar to this for pelvic muscle relaxation. It involves pushing the muscles as if you were trying to fart and pee. I think that this does actually relax you and curbs PE sensations. I tried this briefly and noticed that it did sort of delay. But I think that I may have given myself an internal hemorroid or something from this, because I had some bright red rectal bleeding after going to the bathroom. So I stopped going any further. You should try this and let me know how it goes.
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Posted: 04-03-07 07:12am

HealthySex wrote:
Hey Mike, glad to hear of your success. Band-aid fix or not.

Though, I have a question for curiosity if you don't mind answering. Why did you stop when your wife was too close to cumming? Is she not multi-orgasmic, or does she get too ticklish and can't be touched after orgasm?

If it's because she gets ticklish, I understand. Depending on how long she needs to relax, it may be too long for you to wait if your penis numbed.

If it's because she's not multi-orgasmic, that can often be learned. There's a video on how to get a woman to become multi-orgasmic and a squirter. It involves massaging and stimulation on your part. I forget her responsibility and training. I suppose not every last woman on earth can be taught (the healthier and more balanced, the easier probably), but it's worth a try. People at another forum I'm at have raved about it. I plan on trying it as soon as I have a serious partner.

You can find the video at Puretna. Just go to browse and type "squirting orgasms" into the search box. Be sure to use the quotation marks. The video called How To Make Her Cum is the one. I'm sure there are more videos, books and trainings, but that's the one I've heard people talk about. I'm sure you could find it elsewhere too.


Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation Just wanted to get everyone's attention here, because I may have run across a little serendipity while searching the other forum for the video mentioned above.

I haven't read it yet, as I'm about to step out. However, as we all know we need to relax our pelvic floor muscles and here's a page I ran across that explains some techniques on how to do it. Probably more fully than just plain old relaxing a muscle. So here it is, I'll check it out later...

http://www. umaatantra.com/relaxing_below_051004.html< /a>


We stopped caused she didn't want to finish and have it be over. We'll have to look into the multi orgasm thing. thanks for the info.
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Posted: 04-03-07 07:16am

MandM wrote:
Mike I'm glad you enjoyed the spray. It's been working well for me for a long time. Doesn't it feel awesome that you can pound away without worrying about cumming? You sacrafice some feelings to yourself, but it makes you feel more confident that you can please your lady. It also gives you an opportunity to try many different positions in one session.

This weekend, we had a good amount of time to fool around. She was really hot for it, so I wanted to make it last really long. So I used a couple of sprays of stud and a performax (densensitizing) condom. It really really numbed me. We were going at it for awhile, trying a lot of different positions. I ended up tiring her out, and I could not cum. So I got her to use her hand (which I find really hot). Still could not cum. Finally, she just gave me head, and hello, bang, done...
You have to experiment with different amounts of the spray.
Although it took me a long time to cum, I absolutely enjoyed every minute

Mike are you glad you got the spray? Are you going to use it from not on?
Like you said, try using it before she gives you a handjob. You may last many minutes as opposed to seconds.


Yes I am very glad I got the spray. Hopefully we'll use it again tonight or tomorrow night (going out of town on Friday and she'll want it before I leave Wink )

MandM - we are so alike it is freaky! A while ago we used a desensitizing condom and I couldnt get off it numbed me so much. So we stopped after I wore her out, then she used her hand and eventually, like your situation, she had to give me oral to get me to cum.

Question - have you used the spray with her giving you oral? Did it numb her in anyway or taste funny?
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Posted: 04-03-07 09:06am

Well it seems that you guys are having success with sprays. I remember once that i used a numbing cream, but couldn't get hard. And for me I get hard at anything. But i'm thinking if i could buy a really good spray and take viagra...I'll be good to go...right?
Can you guys post a link where i can buy that stud spray. Is that Stud spray the best on the market right now?...thanks.
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Posted: 04-03-07 09:23am

NYC216 wrote:
Well it seems that you guys are having success with sprays. I remember once that i used a numbing cream, but couldn't get hard. And for me I get hard at anything. But i'm thinking if i could buy a really good spray and take viagra...I'll be good to go...right?
Can you guys post a link where i can buy that stud spray. Is that Stud spray the best on the market right now?...thanks.


I get hard when the wind blows so I know what you mean. I haven't tried any creams so I can't compare there. Maybe you used to much? I didn't want my whole dick numb so I just sprayed the head and then lifted up the shaft and sprayed underneath, right by the head. Just 2 squirts was all it took. And as I mentioned earlier I don't recommend getting any of it on your sac.

I did a google search and the spray came up on several different sites. Just depends on who your comfortable buying it from. I used

www.vitamindeal.com

the shipping was expensive compared to buying 1 can of spray. I only bought one as I wanted to be sure it worked first.

hope this helps.
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Posted: 04-03-07 09:57am

Someone asked me to describe in detail what the sexologist told me to do in terms of the start stop technique, well we really didnt get that far on this and I havent even tried it cause I dont have a girlfriend and frekin PE keeps me from getting the grils I want.

Basically he just told me to sit the girl on top of me and start going at it and when I feel im about to cum to stop and do this about 4 or 5 times and then I could cum. Told me kegels would come later and not to try them right now but I know that if I wait for the right girl to walk into my life to tell about this so I can work on it with her, I might be retied by then..so Im gonna go with what has worked for me XOX's and gonna try the stud 100 spray, it will give me the confidence I need.
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Posted: 04-03-07 10:25am

POM82 wrote:
Someone asked me to describe in detail what the sexologist told me to do in terms of the start stop technique, well we really didnt get that far on this and I havent even tried it cause I dont have a girlfriend and frekin PE keeps me from getting the grils I want.

Basically he just told me to sit the girl on top of me and start going at it and when I feel im about to cum to stop and do this about 4 or 5 times and then I could cum. Told me kegels would come later and not to try them right now but I know that if I wait for the right girl to walk into my life to tell about this so I can work on it with her, I might be retied by then..so Im gonna go with what has worked for me XOX's and gonna try the stud 100 spray, it will give me the confidence I need.


stop start technique doesn't work, I've been trying that since I started having sex. Plus it is such a distraction, women hate stopping and starting.
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Posted: 04-03-07 11:18am

Thanks for the info Miket last. A Couple of questions. Once you put it on, how long will last before it dies out? Also How long can it make you last if you normally come really quick ( 1 min.) So I can from 1 min. to what?
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Posted: 04-03-07 11:31am

NYC216 wrote:
Thanks for the info Miket last. A Couple of questions. Once you put it on, how long will last before it dies out? Also How long can it make you last if you normally come really quick ( 1 min.) So I can from 1 min. to what?


most likely depends on how much you spray on. I only did a couple of quick squirts for the first time, I wanted to be sure I could get it up and also that it wouldn't do something physically, like burn or make it turn purple. Now that I know what to expect I may use a bit more next time. Its all trial and error i think till you find what works.

Like I said I did a couple of quick squirts on the head and underside of my shaft. We were already pretty worked up when we started and I didn't wait more than 5 minutes after I sprayed it on. I think it said to wait 45 minutes, not sure, but it was numb pretty quickly. We banged for a good 5 minutes before I cam. I'm talking fast hard thrusts that normally you do as you cum. If I had done it that way without the spray I would have cum in 10 seconds or thereabouts.

I was numb and hard afterwards for awhile, even after about 1/2 hour I was still semi hard and numb, then I fell asleep.
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