Right, well most websites use the method
in context of being a solution to end
premature ejaculation. So that's
frustrating and I think it should be
understood this is not a valid solution.
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JD33
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Posted: 04-01-07 15:31pm
Just like the rest of the guys on this
thread, I have PE. At times it has been
better at other times worse. For myself I
believe it is due to having some strong
sexual hang ups that resulted in not
having sex til 22. Thus, I was always
super excited and would lose control too
quickly. In addition, I was doing a lot of
drugs when I started having sex so I
didn't really get the right feel for it.
Had a regular gf for 3 years but
unfortunately she didn't really work on it
with me. Wasn't the greatest of girls...
Anyway, as I said, I have at times been
better with it.
The thing that worked for me was similar
to Stop Start, I guess. I would masturbate
in bed and then stop before I could come
(wasn't always successful with stopping of
course, hello laundry). After doing this
for a while I could start to feel the
sensation that presaged orgasm. I then
learned to channel that feeling into a
different route. For me, it felt like a
little lightning bolt heading to my
genitals and I found that I could make
that energy go into another series of
thrusts instead of an orgasm. My gf even
noticed and was like, "wow you've gotten
so much better." That actually kinda
messed things up for me and made me feel
more self-conscious despite having had a
couple pretty good sessions of around ten
minutes of thrusting.
Our relationship was in trouble from a lot
of other things as well and didn't last
much longer. I then stupidly stopped
practicing and stopped being social. Now I
find that I'm having PE problems again but
I'm starting to practice once more as I'm
dating and want some good sex. It is very
rough and I'm pissed that I ever let
myself revert to bad form.
Bottom line is, try practicing until you
can identify when an orgasm is coming and
try to divert that feeling; not saying it
will work for everyone but hopefully it
helps out a few guys having the same
issues. Also, have some self confidence
that you can fix this, that might be the
most important thing because if you're
sure you can do nothing than you are
defeated before you start.
Oh yeah one more thing, kegels do help
with what I was doing because having
strong muscles makes it easier to channel
that energy and clamp down on impending
orgasms.
Hope that helps a little. Goodness knows
I'm no expert and still practicing alot.
Last edited by JD33 on 04-03-07 00:35am; edited 1 time in total
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zigg
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Posted: 04-01-07 15:36pm
"Bottom line is, try practicing until you
can identify when an orgasm is coming and
try to divert that feeling; not saying it
will work for everyone but hopefully it
helps out a few guys having the same
issues."
Hi JD33,
What do you mean by divert the feeling?
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JD33
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Posted: 04-01-07 15:48pm
As I said, the feeling was like a little
lightning bolt for me. It would happen and
then bam I would come. Same thing while I
was actually having sex, we'd be going at
it and within a couple minutes I'd
suddenly come. Wasn't even a good orgasm
when that was happening. By practicing
while masturbating I started to feel that
lightning bolt coming on first and would
attempt to resist it. It really felt like
energy flowing to my genitals, muscles in
the region, penis, testicles, everything.
So, instead of letting that energy set me
off, I resisted and would thrust as if I
was in my girl. This eventually made it so
that the feeling/energy didn't set me off,
it just became part of my normal
thrusting. I think maybe it made it so
that my muscles weren't contracting for
orgasm and were instead just continuing
the thrusting. Man, I'm sorry I'm not
better at explaining but to be honest I'm
not even that good at doing it anymore.
Been a while.
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zigg
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Posted: 04-01-07 19:48pm
No worries at all, I'm just curious
because no matter what I do I can't divert
it... I'm almost too aware of the
sensations, once they arrive they're
around to chill out.
You say you were clockin' 10 minutes when
you figured it out for a time? Damn,
that's like regular folk sex. A marathon
in my book. What types of times were you
reaching before that?
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MikeH90
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Friday Night Success! Posted: 04-02-07 07:42am
Got my little spray bottle of Stud Spray
in the mail on Friday. Wife asked "So
whats it do, make it numb?" "yes, i
replied"
we had a nice night out, dinner without
the kids and did some shopping. Get back
home and she starts a bath. We get in and
just kinda lay there relaxing and talking.
So far no problems, not even hard. Then
she starts rubbing my legs and such, she
spins around and sits in between my legs
and rests her body against my chest.
Instant boner. Bathtub sex is awesome, if
you haven't tried it I highly recommend
you do it tonight.
I tried to lift her up onto my lap and
slip in. "Not in the tub tonight, it
doesn't feel as good. I don't feel it as
much."
"Hmm, wish I could say that" I say to
myself.
We get out after another 10 minutes and
towel off. She heads to the bed and I
stall, "I have to shave" I tell her.
Actually I did, she likes my face stubble
free. So before I shave I get out the Stud
spray and squirt two short squirts onto my
head and shaft. In my haste I get some on
my balls too, not good. More about that
later. Not sure how this is gonna work I
think, is 2 to many or not enough? Will it
work without waiting the required time? I
get done shaving and reach down and kinda
touch/play with my dick. Feels numb.
Awesome its working already.
Without giving to many graphic details - I
got hard, stayed hard and I was able to
thrust long, hard and fast - we stopped
twice, because SHE was to close to
cumming, NOT ME!!!
Guys let me tell you - the feeling was the
greatest thing I can recall in my life,
sex-wise. She used the words, and I quote
"That was so good, so intense"
This was the first time we've had sex
since I started taking Saw Pamaletto (sp?)
and I can say with 100% confidence that
since I started taking it my dick feels
thicker, longer and firmer when hard.This
stuff really works (for me anyway) to
improve the blood flow. So with that
feeling combined with not having to pull
out every 5 seconds (have I mentioned I
HATE the stop start technique??) I was
able to bang away fast and furious and
satisfy her. God what a feeling! The only
drawback was when I came, it wasn't as
intense as normal, no toe curling, leg
cramping cum like normal. Maybe I'll try
just 1 squirt next time.
Now, back to my balls. Directions say that
you need to wash off when done. So I
headed to the bathroom and started washing
off my dick. My balls burned when the
water touched them. It felt like I was
dousing them with hot scalding water. I
highly recommend that you don't get any
spray on them if you try this stuff. My
dick also stayed erect for quite awhile
afterwards which was kinda cool, we
could've done it again if we had wanted to
.
Saturday night as we laid in bed I knew we
weren't gonna have sex, she rarely is in
the mood two nights in a row, especially
since she really got it good the night
before - however, she did
surprise me with one of her amazing hand
jobs. WIthout the spray though it was over
in half a minute or so, but I did have the
toe curling, leg cramp orgasm.
Next time I'll use the spray to see how it
works with hand jobs and then oral.
I know its a band-aid fix but until
something better comes along this was a
big success in my book.
Mike
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zigg
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Posted: 04-02-07 14:55pm
Hi Mike, which spray was that again?
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-02-07 15:22pm
zigg
wrote:
Hi Mike, which spray was
that again?
Stud spray, fairly inexpensive. got it
from vitaminworld or vitamindeal
somegthing like that.
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HealthySex
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Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 04-02-07 16:49pm
Hey Mike, glad to hear of your success.
Band-aid fix or not.
Though, I have a question for curiosity if
you don't mind answering. Why did you stop
when your wife was too close to cumming?
Is she not multi-orgasmic, or does she get
too ticklish and can't be touched after
orgasm?
If it's because she gets ticklish, I
understand. Depending on how long she
needs to relax, it may be too long for you
to wait if your penis numbed.
If it's because she's not multi-orgasmic,
that can often be learned. There's a video
on how to get a woman to become
multi-orgasmic and a squirter. It involves
massaging and stimulation on your part. I
forget her responsibility and training. I
suppose not every last woman on earth can
be taught (the healthier and more
balanced, the easier probably), but it's
worth a try. People at another forum I'm
at have raved about it. I plan on trying
it as soon as I have a serious partner.
You can find the video at Puretna. Just go
to browse and type "squirting orgasms"
into the search box. Be sure to use the
quotation marks. The video called How To
Make Her Cum is the one. I'm sure there
are more videos, books and trainings, but
that's the one I've heard people talk
about. I'm sure you could find it
elsewhere too.
Just wanted to get everyone's attention
here, because I may have run across a
little serendipity while searching the
other forum for the video mentioned
above.
I haven't read it yet, as I'm about to
step out. However, as we all know we need
to relax our pelvic floor muscles and
here's a page I ran across that explains
some techniques on how to do it. Probably
more fully than just plain old relaxing a
muscle. So here it is, I'll check it out
later...
No worries at all, I'm just
curious because no matter what I do I
can't divert it... I'm almost too aware of
the sensations, once they arrive they're
around to chill out.
You say you were clockin' 10 minutes when
you figured it out for a time? Damn,
that's like regular folk sex. A marathon
in my book. What types of times were you
reaching before
that?
Before that it was generally 2 min. On
rare occasions it would be a little more
but never approaching the time that I got
with that extra control. Yeah, lol that
was a marathon for me as well.
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MandM
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Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 04-02-07 18:17pm
Mike I'm glad you enjoyed the spray. It's
been working well for me for a long time.
Doesn't it feel awesome that you can pound
away without worrying about cumming? You
sacrafice some feelings to yourself, but
it makes you feel more confident that you
can please your lady. It also gives you an
opportunity to try many different
positions in one session.
This weekend, we had a good amount of time
to fool around. She was really hot for it,
so I wanted to make it last really long.
So I used a couple of sprays of stud and a
performax (densensitizing) condom. It
really really numbed me. We were going at
it for awhile, trying a lot of different
positions. I ended up tiring her out, and
I could not cum. So I got her to use her
hand (which I find really hot). Still
could not cum. Finally, she just gave me
head, and hello, bang, done...
You have to experiment with different
amounts of the spray.
Although it took me a long time to cum, I
absolutely enjoyed every minute
Mike are you glad you got the spray? Are
you going to use it from not on?
Like you said, try using it before she
gives you a handjob. You may last many
minutes as opposed to seconds.
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MandM
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Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 04-02-07 21:41pm
HealthySex, thanks for the replies
concerning anti-depressants. I don't think
I want to go that route right now. I think
my fiance would rather me remain
level-headed and keep my personality the
way it is. Although I go through some
boughts of depression, but it has been a
lot better since I've gotten older. Like
you said, I'm sure each medication,
affects each individual differently. I
don't think I want to go through that
process. That's what bothers me about
medication, trying to figure out if
something is a real side-effect or if
something else is going on.
I also took a look at the tantric site.
I've heard something similar to this for
pelvic muscle relaxation. It involves
pushing the muscles as if you were trying
to fart and pee. I think that this does
actually relax you and curbs PE
sensations. I tried this briefly and
noticed that it did sort of delay. But I
think that I may have given myself an
internal hemorroid or something from this,
because I had some bright red rectal
bleeding after going to the bathroom. So I
stopped going any further. You should try
this and let me know how it goes.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-03-07 07:12am
HealthySex
wrote:
Hey Mike, glad to hear of
your success. Band-aid fix or not.
Though, I have a question for curiosity if
you don't mind answering. Why did you stop
when your wife was too close to cumming?
Is she not multi-orgasmic, or does she get
too ticklish and can't be touched after
orgasm?
If it's because she gets ticklish, I
understand. Depending on how long she
needs to relax, it may be too long for you
to wait if your penis numbed.
If it's because she's not multi-orgasmic,
that can often be learned. There's a video
on how to get a woman to become
multi-orgasmic and a squirter. It involves
massaging and stimulation on your part. I
forget her responsibility and training. I
suppose not every last woman on earth can
be taught (the healthier and more
balanced, the easier probably), but it's
worth a try. People at another forum I'm
at have raved about it. I plan on trying
it as soon as I have a serious partner.
You can find the video at Puretna. Just go
to browse and type "squirting orgasms"
into the search box. Be sure to use the
quotation marks. The video called How To
Make Her Cum is the one. I'm sure there
are more videos, books and trainings, but
that's the one I've heard people talk
about. I'm sure you could find it
elsewhere too.
Just wanted to get everyone's attention
here, because I may have run across a
little serendipity while searching the
other forum for the video mentioned
above.
I haven't read it yet, as I'm about to
step out. However, as we all know we need
to relax our pelvic floor muscles and
here's a page I ran across that explains
some techniques on how to do it. Probably
more fully than just plain old relaxing a
muscle. So here it is, I'll check it out
later...
We stopped caused she didn't want to
finish and have it be over. We'll have to
look into the multi orgasm thing. thanks
for the info.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-03-07 07:16am
MandM
wrote:
Mike I'm glad you enjoyed
the spray. It's been working well for me
for a long time. Doesn't it feel awesome
that you can pound away without worrying
about cumming? You sacrafice some feelings
to yourself, but it makes you feel more
confident that you can please your lady.
It also gives you an opportunity to try
many different positions in one session.
This weekend, we had a good amount of time
to fool around. She was really hot for it,
so I wanted to make it last really long.
So I used a couple of sprays of stud and a
performax (densensitizing) condom. It
really really numbed me. We were going at
it for awhile, trying a lot of different
positions. I ended up tiring her out, and
I could not cum. So I got her to use her
hand (which I find really hot). Still
could not cum. Finally, she just gave me
head, and hello, bang, done...
You have to experiment with different
amounts of the spray.
Although it took me a long time to cum, I
absolutely enjoyed every minute
Mike are you glad you got the spray? Are
you going to use it from not on?
Like you said, try using it before she
gives you a handjob. You may last many
minutes as opposed to
seconds.
Yes I am very glad I got the spray.
Hopefully we'll use it again tonight or
tomorrow night (going out of town on
Friday and she'll want it before I leave
)
MandM - we are so alike it is freaky! A
while ago we used a desensitizing condom
and I couldnt get off it numbed me so
much. So we stopped after I wore her out,
then she used her hand and eventually,
like your situation, she had to give me
oral to get me to cum.
Question - have you used the spray with
her giving you oral? Did it numb her in
anyway or taste funny?
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NYC216
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Posted: 04-03-07 09:06am
Well it seems that you guys are having
success with sprays. I remember once that
i used a numbing cream, but couldn't get
hard. And for me I get hard at anything.
But i'm thinking if i could buy a really
good spray and take viagra...I'll be good
to go...right?
Can you guys post a link where i can
buy that stud spray. Is that Stud spray
the best on the market right
now?...thanks.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-03-07 09:23am
NYC216
wrote:
Well it seems that you guys
are having success with sprays. I remember
once that i used a numbing cream, but
couldn't get hard. And for me I get hard
at anything. But i'm thinking if i could
buy a really good spray and take
viagra...I'll be good to go...right?
Can you guys post a link where i can
buy that stud spray. Is that Stud spray
the best on the market right
now?...thanks.
I get hard when the wind blows so I know
what you mean. I haven't tried any creams
so I can't compare there. Maybe you used
to much? I didn't want my whole dick numb
so I just sprayed the head and then lifted
up the shaft and sprayed underneath, right
by the head. Just 2 squirts was all it
took. And as I mentioned earlier I don't
recommend getting any of it on your sac.
I did a google search and the spray came
up on several different sites. Just
depends on who your comfortable buying it
from. I used
the shipping was expensive compared to
buying 1 can of spray. I only bought one
as I wanted to be sure it worked first.
hope this helps.
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Posted: 04-03-07 09:57am
Someone asked me to describe in detail
what the sexologist told me to do in terms
of the start stop technique, well we
really didnt get that far on this and I
havent even tried it cause I dont have a
girlfriend and frekin PE keeps me from
getting the grils I want.
Basically he just told me to sit the girl
on top of me and start going at it and
when I feel im about to cum to stop and do
this about 4 or 5 times and then I could
cum. Told me kegels would come later and
not to try them right now but I know that
if I wait for the right girl to walk into
my life to tell about this so I can work
on it with her, I might be retied by
then..so Im gonna go with what has worked
for me XOX's and gonna try the stud 100
spray, it will give me the confidence I
need.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-03-07 10:25am
POM82
wrote:
Someone asked me to describe
in detail what the sexologist told me to
do in terms of the start stop technique,
well we really didnt get that far on this
and I havent even tried it cause I dont
have a girlfriend and frekin PE keeps me
from getting the grils I want.
Basically he just told me to sit the girl
on top of me and start going at it and
when I feel im about to cum to stop and do
this about 4 or 5 times and then I could
cum. Told me kegels would come later and
not to try them right now but I know that
if I wait for the right girl to walk into
my life to tell about this so I can work
on it with her, I might be retied by
then..so Im gonna go with what has worked
for me XOX's and gonna try the stud 100
spray, it will give me the confidence I
need.
stop start technique doesn't work, I've
been trying that since I started having
sex. Plus it is such a distraction, women
hate stopping and starting.
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NYC216
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Posted: 04-03-07 11:18am
Thanks for the info Miket last. A Couple
of questions. Once you put it on, how long
will last before it dies out? Also How
long can it make you last if you normally
come really quick ( 1 min.) So I can from
1 min. to what?
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MikeH90
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Posted: 04-03-07 11:31am
NYC216
wrote:
Thanks for the info Miket
last. A Couple of questions. Once you put
it on, how long will last before it dies
out? Also How long can it make you last if
you normally come really quick ( 1 min.)
So I can from 1 min. to
what?
most likely depends on how much you spray
on. I only did a couple of quick squirts
for the first time, I wanted to be sure I
could get it up and also that it wouldn't
do something physically, like burn or make
it turn purple. Now that I know what to
expect I may use a bit more next time. Its
all trial and error i think till you find
what works.
Like I said I did a couple of quick
squirts on the head and underside of my
shaft. We were already pretty worked up
when we started and I didn't wait more
than 5 minutes after I sprayed it on. I
think it said to wait 45 minutes, not
sure, but it was numb pretty quickly. We
banged for a good 5 minutes before I cam.
I'm talking fast hard thrusts that
normally you do as you cum. If I had done
it that way without the spray I would have
cum in 10 seconds or thereabouts.
I was numb and hard afterwards for awhile,
even after about 1/2 hour I was still semi
hard and numb, then I fell asleep.