If I may go off-topic for a minute, I
understand that most of us are quite
stressed out. So, if I may suggest, I
think we should all stop,
take a deep breath,
and relax...
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POM82
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Posted: 10-15-07 09:28am
doctor gave me paxil in small dose, maybe
ill try SSRI's after all
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HealthySex
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Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-15-07 16:09pm
POM82
wrote:
doctor gave me paxil in
small dose, maybe ill try SSRI's after
all
Are you going to test the other product
you purchased first, before you begin on
the Paxil?
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POM82
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Posted: 10-15-07 20:23pm
yup definitly and I hope I get it by this
friday cause I got a girl who is waiting
for me to bang her , its gonna be a good
weekend.
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inTango
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-16-07 14:41pm
healthySex, your logic makes sense and i
appreciate that; but then again, along
with natural cures they also utilized
horses for transportation for 1000s of
years, and that hardly makes riding a
horse the best choice when you need to get
somewhere fast.
i live in a brooklyn neighborhood where
most people are severely overweight; now
i've been to many gyms, both neighborhood
sh*tholes and upscale manhattan health
clubs and most people you see at the gym
are pretty fit; i know it's tempting to
think that they're fit because they
workout, diet, whatever, but then how
about the people who are just starting
out? how come you never see those? the
answer is: because most people who are
really out of shape rarely manage to get
their sh*t together and do something about
it!
at this point in life i see myself as a
severely obese person who needs something
extreme, like liposuction or some crazy
diet pill to even start thinking about
getting in shape; and it's either that, or
pretending i don't really have a problem
and big is beautiful (talking
metaphorically here, my body fat is 7%).
knowing that i can get it hard if i need
to gives me breathing space and can be a
life saver; then again, some people are
far more inclined to use pills than
others, and i'm definitely not chemical
shy..
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Brad17
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 9 Location: AZ,
Posted: 10-17-07 00:34am
HealthySex
wrote:
Ok, I wanted to keep this
separate because the above post was so
long I'm sure many of you would have dazed
out. You're looking for cures to PE. Well,
I wish I had one. Maybe I do, but since
I make do quite well I get complacement
with trying cures or sticking to a
regimen.
However, I have some things to mention.
Histamine. I've mentioned it before and
I'll mention it again as many of you could
try and see if it works for you. Histamine
levels play a role in orgasm for both men
and women. Low levels make it difficult to
achieve orgasm, while high levels make it
easy.
Firstly, it can be tested so you can go to
the doctors and see if your levels are
high. I don't think it would necessarily
mean that that is your problem, but if
it's high it could be a piece of the
puzzle. Even if it isn't high, perhaps it
could still help. To test you'd need to
avoid certain foods for a few days or so,
so don't book a doctors appointment and
ask him to test then and there. Call and
find out what you'd need to do to prepare
for the test.
Now, what to do?
One trick I'd like to hear about if people
tried is a HOT shower. You might have
heard the hot shower remedy for rashes
such as poison ivy. The itchiness is
caused by histamine being released, so if
you use up all of your histamine you can't
itch. And hot showers cause your histamine
to be released. So if you take a hot
shower and release all of your histamine
you won't have any to cause itchiness.
So if hot showers release your histamine
and histamine causes orgasm and
ejaculation, then perhaps a hot shower
could release enough histamine to delay
your ejaculation. Maybe, I don't know,
like I said, I'm complacement sometime in
testing things because I do well as it is.
However, it'd be interesting to hear
people talk about their experiences. And
it will help them guage whether the next
idea might work for them as well. Just
because a hot shower doesn't work, won't
necessarily mean the next trick won't work
though. However, if the hot shower works
then maybe you'd like to try the next
trick because you won't have to plan ahead
and take hot showers before sex.
Also, don't go burning yourself and be
safe. Tell people not to flush the toilet
or use the sink if you have really hot
water. Take it hot to the point you can
bear, but not scalding or causing you to
pass out. You might want to cool off with
cold water every few minutes too as hot
water can increase your internal
temperature and cause you too sweat. But
if you go hot then cold then hot then cold
you can use up your histamine without
overheating.
Ok, the next trick is to block the
creation of too much histamine. Histamine
is created by the amino acid L-Histidine.
Another amino acid L-Methionine will block
the creation of it, in effect lowering
your levels. You can buy L-Methionine in
supplement form, be sure to get the L form
which is natural. Here's a blurb I found
about Histamine and PE.
"Dr. Pfeiffer noted that males who had
excessive L-Histidine levels had the
problem of premature ejaculation. He gave
these men supplementation of 500 mg. of
L-Methionine along with 500 mg. of
magnesium and 50mg. of vitamin B6. This
helped normalize the levels of Histidine,
and alleviated the problem of premature
ejaculation. Those taking L-Methionine
should also take a B complex with folic
acid to help prevent excessive
homocysteine levels. (Take 2 Montiff B
Complete daily - 1 in the morning and 1 in
the evening to get sufficient folic acid
and B 6.)."
So you should also take the magnesium and
a multi-B-Complex vitamin.
How long before you see results? I don't
know. But I would take it for at least a
month, if not 3 before I decided to guage
it's effectiveness or worthlessness. You
could take more (at least up to 1000mg)
but start
slow.
Hey HealthySex your post about histmaine
levels caught my attention and was
wondering if you had tried lowering your
histmine levels via L-Methionine or any
other means? I tried doing some research
on histmine levels and pe and couldnt
really find much. Could you post the link
to where you took that quote from? Hope to
hear from you soon, thanks.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-18-07 14:32pm
Brad17
wrote:
Hey HealthySex your post about histmaine
levels caught my attention and was
wondering if you had tried lowering your
histmine levels via L-Methionine or any
other means? I tried doing some research
on histmine levels and pe and couldnt
really find much. Could you post the link
to where you took that quote from? Hope to
hear from you soon,
thanks.
Sure, here's the link
(edited- you guys can pm the site to each
other )
However, that's not where I learned of the
connection so there's more info out there.
I saved that one because it gave a
specific regimen.
I just recently began taking some
L-Methionine so it'd be too early to tell
as many supplements take time before they
really take effect. I keep forgetting to
take it too, but I'll keep you posted. I'm
not taking the other supplements as I
already have multi's that should keep me
covered. Otherwise, I would take the
magnesium a b-complex and a general multi
for good measure.
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Georgia59
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 5542 Location: Along the Mississippi, USA
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Posted: 10-18-07 16:37pm
Hey guys- just a quick note from your
mod-
I think all the information sharing and
advice going on here is WONDERFUL and I
hope you keep up with it....
but could you please refrain from posting
links to "buy it here" websites?? I'm not
talking anyone in specific, but it's a
common trend given the nature of these
posts.
You can recommend medications that worked
for you, that's just fine. But leave it to
the other members to find it and buy it if
they want to try it. You can always google
things, right?
Strictly informational non advertising
links are fine, though.
-Your friendly neighborhood moderator
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-18-07 16:45pm
That was an informational page for the
most part. The product being sold on that
page is the exact opposite of what anyone
would want to buy for what I mentioned.
L-Histidine would do the opposite of what
they want.
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robo98
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 14
Ejaculation Problems Posted: 10-20-07 08:48am
G'day guys
Just over one year ago me and my ex
girlfriend had sex for the first time
(first time for the both of us). I was
extremely horny as I cared for her deeply,
I was pounding the absolute crap out of
her and could tell it hurt her very much.
This happened so quickly but I only messed
her for 1 minute or so due to my problem
(and also the fact that I didn't have one
clue as how long I should be lasting - I
completely blocked out that factor). 2-3
months later I had sex with this random
chick when her parents went away, I blew
within two minutes. I was extremely
embarrassed and now this is easily my
number one issue in life
(ejaculation/having sex). I cop alot of
crap from my mates even though they are
joking but it shreads me apart in side. I
watched a porno a few nights ago and blew
after 5 seconds or so. Im 90% sure this is
a mental thing (with watching pornography)
but still leaves me confused as I feel
like I'm the only one out there that
suffers this problem. This is a huge issue
for me so any feedback on how to prevent
this would be much appreciated. I also
smoke and aren't fit if that has anything
to do with it.
Thanks boys
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POM82
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Posted: 10-21-07 20:05pm
two words: stud 100, check that out and
buy some
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Georgia59
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 5542 Location: Along the Mississippi, USA
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Posted: 10-21-07 21:29pm
HealthySex
wrote:
That was an informational
page for the most part. The product being
sold on that page is the exact opposite of
what anyone would want to buy for what I
mentioned.
L-Histidine would do the opposite of what
they want.
I know, I checked it out. But those are
the rules
I appreciate all your info though, don't
stop!
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Seajai
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 3
Posted: 10-22-07 16:56pm
POM82
wrote:
two words: stud 100, check
that out and buy
some
This is no joke... I have this stuff and
it is amazing.
But I am purdy tired of PE and having to
deal with it, I wanna bang the hell out of
my girlfriend for longer than just two
minutes. The Stud Spray does awesome and
makes you last quite a bit longer, but if
you are just having sex with random girls
its hard to actually be able to put this
stuff on and then stall for 10 minutes
while you're waiting for it to absorb. I
feel pretty stupid having to go put it on
for my girlfriend then tell her she has to
wait 10 minutes so this stuff can start
working, even though I'm sure shes loving
how much longer the sex is lasting.
But as of tomorrow I am getting on an anti
depressant and hopefully getting rid of my
PE. I have two friends who both got on
Lexapro and both of them got complete
control over there sex life and could
control when they wanted to go.
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POM82
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Posted: 10-23-07 07:41am
Seajai
wrote:
POM82
wrote:
two words: stud 100, check
that out and buy
some
This is no joke... I have this stuff and
it is amazing.
But I am purdy tired of PE and having to
deal with it, I wanna bang the hell out of
my girlfriend for longer than just two
minutes. The Stud Spray does awesome and
makes you last quite a bit longer, but if
you are just having sex with random girls
its hard to actually be able to put this
stuff on and then stall for 10 minutes
while you're waiting for it to absorb. I
feel pretty stupid having to go put it on
for my girlfriend then tell her she has to
wait 10 minutes so this stuff can start
working, even though I'm sure shes loving
how much longer the sex is lasting.
But as of tomorrow I am getting on an anti
depressant and hopefully getting rid of my
PE. I have two friends who both got on
Lexapro and both of them got complete
control over there sex life and could
control when they wanted to
go.
thats the problem with the stud spray, the
waiting, thats why im really anxious to
try out this new prolasta stuff i
ordered. it claims you can take it on
demand (dont have to take it for a couple
months to kick in) and it gives you a
window of a couple hours so when you think
youre gonna get lucky you take it and
youre good to go. im supposed to get it
in the mail any day now.
there will be a full report on this once I
try it out.
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-23-07 14:39pm
During that 10 minutes you're waiting for
it to work you can please her other ways.
Even give an orgasm before you've even
started.
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Georgia59
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 5542 Location: Along the Mississippi, USA
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Posted: 10-23-07 15:14pm
Yep. In fact, you do that, and it won't
even matter what the sex is like... (says
the girl)
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HealthySex
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2007 Posts: 414
Posted: 10-23-07 18:10pm
Thanks Georgia.
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Dazzling
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 1
Posted: 10-24-07 02:44am
Hi guys, first post as you can see. I have
been lurking for a few months though.I
have seen mentioned pc clenches with
aguments for and against and just wanted
to give some details that helped me. I
have been able to get them to work but
like any muscles need time to strengthen.
I first read about them in an old issue of
men's health magazine about 10 years back
and have used it since. Very simple
program too. 100 quick clenches, followed
by 5 sets of 10 sec holds every day. That
was it. Once I built up the strength to
hold back orgasm I just did and still do
that routine every 3-4 days when I think
about it. Takes like 5 minutes.
The trick to making it work during sex is
getting as close to point of ejaculation
as possible before stopping and clamping
down. I have found for me, that if I stop
too early I need to keep stopping every
few minutes. This is obviously a pain for
the woman, but if I get right on the edge
to the point of no return then I can go
another half hour easily without worrying
about stopping. Have no idea why this is
but it was an important note of the
article. So basically, yes I still do have
to stop after the first few minutes for
about 10-20 secs but then I'm good to go
for the next half hour or more. Just get
creative during that first stop and use
other methods. The other important point
is try keep the pc relaxed the rest of the
time during sex because squeezing it
during does push you toward orgasm faster.
If you strenghten it and use it at the
right time it does work.
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Brad17
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 9 Location: AZ,
Posted: 10-27-07 01:22am
Dazzling
wrote:
Hi guys, first post as you
can see. I have been lurking for a few
months though.I have seen mentioned pc
clenches with aguments for and against and
just wanted to give some details that
helped me. I have been able to get them to
work but like any muscles need time to
strengthen.
I first read about them in an old issue of
men's health magazine about 10 years back
and have used it since. Very simple
program too. 100 quick clenches, followed
by 5 sets of 10 sec holds every day. That
was it. Once I built up the strength to
hold back orgasm I just did and still do
that routine every 3-4 days when I think
about it. Takes like 5 minutes.
The trick to making it work during sex is
getting as close to point of ejaculation
as possible before stopping and clamping
down. I have found for me, that if I stop
too early I need to keep stopping every
few minutes. This is obviously a pain for
the woman, but if I get right on the edge
to the point of no return then I can go
another half hour easily without worrying
about stopping. Have no idea why this is
but it was an important note of the
article. So basically, yes I still do have
to stop after the first few minutes for
about 10-20 secs but then I'm good to go
for the next half hour or more. Just get
creative during that first stop and use
other methods. The other important point
is try keep the pc relaxed the rest of the
time during sex because squeezing it
during does push you toward orgasm faster.
If you strenghten it and use it at the
right time it does
work.
Hey Dazzling thanks for the input! I was
wondering how long did you do the routines
before you were able to hold back. Also,
when you clench are you holding back
orgasm completely or are you only holding
back ejacualtion and having a sort of
"mini" orgasm. I have been trying pc
techniques for a little while now and when
i try to clench at the last second usually
i still have a smaller less intese orgasm
and some ejaculation still comes slowly
out.
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BuildABetterLife
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 12 Location: Atlanta, GA USA
Posted: 10-29-07 17:57pm
pin_cushion
wrote:
Hi again,
If I may go off-topic for a minute, I
understand that most of us are quite
stressed out. So, if I may suggest, I
think we should all stop,
take a deep breath,
and relax...
Chikong Deep Breathing techniques are
actually exceptionally powerful for
healing the sex drive, believe it or not.
Try breathing from your abdomen all the
way up to your chest and inflate your
whole body.
Then breathe out. Do this slowly and
repeat 5 times. Notice how much lighter
you feel
)
