Hey guys, I talked to a friend of mine who
tried a product called Climinax. It's a
pretty new product, and for people who are
affected by PE as an anxiety approach
should try this product out. I did a
little research myself and the product
affects your seratonin levels and every
review/medhub/menshealth article I've read
about this product was 100% positive.
Although it is a bit pricey, but I'm sure
anyone here will pay for results; I will
be giving it a try pretty soon here, and I
will be keeping everyone updated. If you
have PE as a biological cause then I am
sorry guys, but I also heard about a
product called Plethora, which is a
numbing agent sort of like Stud spray,
right now the treatment is in the third
phase of testings in UK, this product is
suppose to have minimal partner transfer.
Well that's it for today, hope you guys
check out that product, or if anyone who
has used it before please shine some
insight into this topic, thanks.
Bk
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MandM
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 12-11-07 21:33pm
Hey guys,
I haven't been back here in a long
while. Work has been an absolute killer,
I've been travelling a lot in the last few
months. I just I'd like to chime in and
explain how my situation has been going.
Well, it's been a long time since I've
used any desensitizer before sex. I used
to use them religiously. Now, my stamina
is either hit or miss. I only have sex
with my fiance maybe 2-3 times a month,
due to our busy jobs and situation. I find
that sometimes I can last a few minutes,
which is extremely good for me, before I
ejaculate. A few minutes is usually all I
need to get her to cum. Other times, I
ejaculate after a few pumps. A few weeks
ago, we were doing it, and I lasted longer
than she did. Of course that made me very
happy. My stamina seems to be decent
approx. 30% of the time now. I really
haven't changed much, I usually take my
multi-vitamins, and I always use a condom
(without the desensitizer gel). I think
I've been masterbating more often in the
last few months than I normally did, the
stamina there is always the same, as I
feel the urge to ejaculate within a
mintue.
I've just beome accustomed that if I cum
quickly, I can keep the erection up, and
we can start over again in a minute. This
weekend for instance, we had some nice
alone time, and we had very romatic
foreplay. When it came time to start the
intercourse, I felt the urge to cum almost
immediately, so I let loose, and we went
back at it within a minute. She came, but
I didn't. So, she tried to get to go off
with her hand, but I wasn't getting any
feeling, then she went with her mouth, and
I went off probably under a second. I find
it wierd that some people last longer with
BJ's as opposed to intercourse. I can
never last more than 2 seconds when that
goes down. I also find that extremely
hot.
Well, I think a lot has to do with your
arousal level. Such as, if you are
extremely horny, then you are going to
ejaculate quickly. If you are not so
horny, then you will last. Usually, the
idea of sex makes me very horny, and I get
very high levels of arousal, then I cum
quickly.
This thing is a very complicated issue;
there aren't going to be any simple
answers, and old myths are not going to
help.
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catsgomeow
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 10
Posted: 12-12-07 05:36am
For me, when im with my girlfriend and we
touches me or lays on me i usually get
aroused with a hard on. I always get a lot
of precum if i get aroused enough. I
usually get erections quite often in
public places as well (without the
precum). When i masturbate i dont precum
until i do the stop and go at least 4 or 5
times. Masturbation til the point of no
return usually takes me between 10 seconds
and 3 or 4 minutes. With sex (without
condom) i usually last less then one
mnute. My question is- does anyone else
get lots of precum from just getting
aroused?
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rme33
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 4
Posted: 12-13-07 02:53am
Well, this thread has been quite
informative. The one thing I think you
guys need to keep in mind (especially you
guys that have had problems with PE for
years) is that there is a way out of it.
Don't allow yourself to think there isn't,
because there is.
My story: well, I am nineteen years old
and I am quite sure I have PE. The reason
I say "quite sure" is because whether or
not I have it varies on the definition. I
usually come quicker than I would like,
but I also am usually able to bring my g/f
to orgasm. However, it really sucks to not
be able to have sex with her for as long
as I want to. One thing that I have found
that is really helpful (besides oral
sex... this is huge) is when I am inside
her, rather than thrusting in and out over
and over again, I can just push myself all
the way in once (one "thrust") and then
push myself up against her while inside
her. Or, if we're doing it doggy-style,
pull on her butt and pull her back into me
again and again. In other words, this cuts
down on the thrusting motion for you but
she still feels really good.
That said, it still definitely sucks
coming before I want to. The interesting
thing, and the thing that leads me to
believe it is mostly mental, is that I
have had a few times where I have lasted
for a very long time. Depending on your
relationship, I've actually found "talking
dirty" to be pretty effective, because it
makes me feel more confident. Also, when I
am drunk I am able to go for a very long
time. I guess I mean IF I was ever drunk,
I bet I could go for a long time, 'cause
ya know.. I'm only 19 .
Anyways, I hope that bit of advice I gave
was helpful to you guys. I have been able
to go really for as long as I want using
it, and then after she goes I usually
start thrusting and it is not long before
I go.
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rme33
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 4
Posted: 12-13-07 02:56am
Just something to add: don't get me wrong,
I have definitely really struggled with
PE. It has absolutely tortured me
mentally, and to be honest I believe this
is a large part of the problem. I just
wanted to share a technique I've found to
be pretty effective with you guys.
I'm also going to talk to my doctor next
week when I go home from school for the
holidays. I told my girlfriend this and
she doesn't understand why, she claims I
don't have PE and its all in my head and I
actually can last pretty long. But the
thing is, thats really not the case. I
want to be able to thrust and thrust, and
as of now, I just can't.
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MandM
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 12-13-07 19:13pm
catsgomeow
wrote:
For me, when im with my
girlfriend and we touches me or lays on me
i usually get aroused with a hard on. I
always get a lot of precum if i get
aroused enough. I usually get erections
quite often in public places as well
(without the precum). When i masturbate i
dont precum until i do the stop and go at
least 4 or 5 times. Masturbation til the
point of no return usually takes me
between 10 seconds and 3 or 4 minutes.
With sex (without condom) i usually last
less then one mnute. My question is- does
anyone else get lots of precum from just
getting
aroused?
Yup, that's normal. I usually get a decent
amount of precum during foreplay and
arousal. Same thing with masterbating as
you said. Everybody experiences it
differently, just remember that if you are
doing it w/o a condom, and she's not on
BC, then there is a chance that the precum
can make it to the egg and fertilize.
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MandM
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 12-13-07 19:28pm
rme33
wrote:
Well, this thread has been
quite informative. The one thing I think
you guys need to keep in mind (especially
you guys that have had problems with PE
for years) is that there is a way out of
it. Don't allow yourself to think there
isn't, because there is.
My story: well, I am nineteen years old
and I am quite sure I have PE. The reason
I say "quite sure" is because whether or
not I have it varies on the definition. I
usually come quicker than I would like,
but I also am usually able to bring my g/f
to orgasm. However, it really sucks to not
be able to have sex with her for as long
as I want to. One thing that I have found
that is really helpful (besides oral
sex... this is huge) is when I am inside
her, rather than thrusting in and out over
and over again, I can just push myself all
the way in once (one "thrust") and then
push myself up against her while inside
her. Or, if we're doing it doggy-style,
pull on her butt and pull her back into me
again and again. In other words, this cuts
down on the thrusting motion for you but
she still feels really good.
That said, it still definitely sucks
coming before I want to. The interesting
thing, and the thing that leads me to
believe it is mostly mental, is that I
have had a few times where I have lasted
for a very long time. Depending on your
relationship, I've actually found "talking
dirty" to be pretty effective, because it
makes me feel more confident. Also, when I
am drunk I am able to go for a very long
time. I guess I mean IF I was ever drunk,
I bet I could go for a long time, 'cause
ya know.. I'm only 19 .
Anyways, I hope that bit of advice I gave
was helpful to you guys. I have been able
to go really for as long as I want using
it, and then after she goes I usually
start thrusting and it is not long before
I go.
I understand where you are coming from.
Sometimes I find that instead of
"in-and-out" thrusting, I find that a
"circular" thrusting works good too.
Honestly, I think that if you are able to
bring your GF to come, then your issue w/
PE isn't too bad. Sure, I don't think many
men want a sex session to end anytime
soon, but if you get your girl to come,
then you yourself feel a lot better. Also,
honestly, I really think there are many
kinds of PE, and it's not all mental,
maybe partially or not at all for some,
but there are different kinds. The book
"Coping with PE" explains this. For many,
there are options, such as different ways
to thrust, and hold this... pull
that...Unfortunately, it's not an exact
science for all, and that's why a
one-for-all cure will be hard to find.
Alcohol also helps PE, because alcohol
numbs the body and cools the nervous
system. So your brain isn't as keen as
detecting and feeling sensations. Alcohol
even delays the autonomous nervous, so it
slows the automatic bodily reactions. Too
bad sex and drinking doesn't go hand and
hand. My girl doesn't really like alcohol
on my breath...
I definately believe that different types
of thrusting will delay ejaculation, for
the most part, you are trying to minimize
friction at a certain point on your penis.
If you could get all the friction to the
base of your penis, you could greatly
increase you stamina.
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rme33
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 4
Posted: 12-14-07 05:43am
MandM- Yeah, I agree that since she is
coming its not awful, but I guess my point
was I definitely feel you guys, and feel
the same way lots of the time. Thing is, I
always have really prided myself on my
"game" or my ability to pleasure a girl,
whatever you want to call it.. So it's
really hard on my ego to think that I'm
not like a "normal" guy when it comes to
sex, and that if I try to thrust like a
madman its over in a flash. I actually
HOPE that it is mental with me, because I
have no problem going to therapy or
something like that, whereas taking
pills/drugs/ssris really bother me for
some reason.
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Georgia59
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 5542 Location: Along the Mississippi, USA
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Posted: 12-14-07 18:01pm
rme33- I'm not trying to deny your
frustration, but honestly I think that is
normal behavior. I don't think many guys
(especially 19 year olds) can thrust in
and out and last very long.
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rme33
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 4
Posted: 12-15-07 01:29am
Seriously? I really feel like I have a
problem with PE
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bongi
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 13 Location: ,
Posted: 12-16-07 13:45pm
Hi!
I also have premature ejaculation.. I've
had it for about 10 years now ever since
my first time. First i tought that it
would go away when I get a bit older and
then I tought it would go away when I get
a partner and get used to having sex, but
now I have faced the horrible fact that
this thing will never go away on its own!
When I'm about to have sex I get really
aroused and sensitive so it's like I'm
already on the 9 of the arousal scale
before even getting undressed. After I put
it in I can feel straight away that I'm on
about to have an orgasm. It usually takes
about half a minute. I notice a slight
difference if I'm drunk and then I can
last about 1 minute. Even if I masturbate
right before I'm about to have sex I still
come within a minute.
This is really frustrating and I have lost
a few great girls because of it. I don't
have any problem getting sex but I don't
want to anymore because it is so
embarrasing. Now I have been without sex
for over a year and I won't have sex
unless I'll feel confident that that I can
perform better.
So... How about some updates? Have any of
you had any success with pe pills or
ssri's? I read earlier in the forum that
someone was going to try different stuff..
I think I could try out some ssri's too
but I'm afraid that even if I could
perform better it would mess me up in so
many other ways instead. I know I have to
do something now because I'm really
missing out on my life. This effects
everything in life, not only sex!
Thanks for keeping the discussion going!
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mutts321
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 2
Mhm Posted: 12-16-07 15:45pm
ok....im new on the forum.. but im 17 and
ony had sex twice. but both times....ive
stuck it in (with a condom) and had to
pull out...i seriously came in about 2
seconds. ..It is jsut
really frustrating....Is it because im
just inexperienced or is this an actual
problem? will...those longer lasting
trojan condoms do me an justice either?
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bongi
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 13 Location: ,
Re: Mhm Posted: 12-16-07 17:50pm
mutts321
wrote:
ok....im new on the forum..
but im 17 and ony had sex twice. but both
times....ive stuck it in (with a condom)
and had to pull out...i seriously came in
about 2 seconds. ..It is jsut
really frustrating....Is it because im
just inexperienced or is this an actual
problem? will...those longer lasting
trojan condoms do me an justice
either?
Inexperience or premature ejaculation..
hmm... It could be either one. Try to not
worry about it for now and go on as normal
and if you still come early after you have
some more experience then you might have
pe. Try to have sex with the same girl
several times (so you would be more
comfortable and less nervous) and see if
you're doing any progress. Good luck!
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Georgia59
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 5542 Location: Along the Mississippi, USA
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Posted: 12-16-07 20:47pm
rme33
wrote:
Seriously? I really feel
like I have a problem with
PE
Well, I mean, most guys cum quite quickly
when they're maturbating, right? If you
are doing the type of motion that really
feels the best, of course it won't last
long. That's why changing positions,
speed, etc. makes you last longer.
Plus you're young, you're still hormonal
lol. And as you get more experienced the
time will be quicker too.
I think technically, if you are lasting
long enough for your gf to come, that's
not really a problem.
That's not to say that it isn't
frustrating!
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Georgia59
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 5542 Location: Along the Mississippi, USA
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Re: Mhm Posted: 12-16-07 20:48pm
bongi
wrote:
mutts321
wrote:
ok....im new on the forum..
but im 17 and ony had sex twice. but both
times....ive stuck it in (with a condom)
and had to pull out...i seriously came in
about 2 seconds. ..It is jsut
really frustrating....Is it because im
just inexperienced or is this an actual
problem? will...those longer lasting
trojan condoms do me an justice
either?
Inexperience or premature ejaculation..
hmm... It could be either one. Try to not
worry about it for now and go on as normal
and if you still come early after you have
some more experience then you might have
pe. Try to have sex with the same girl
several times (so you would be more
comfortable and less nervous) and see if
you're doing any progress. Good
luck!
The first few times are like that for
every guy, right?
Don't worry too much.
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mutts321
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 2
Posted: 12-16-07 21:14pm
it was also doggy style....and Ive heard
that is liek the worst for virgins jsut
becuase ur liek OMG NICE ASS AHHH *jiz* in
liek 2 seconds....
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catsgomeow
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 10
Posted: 12-18-07 20:00pm
ive tried to contact a few places about
dapaxotine, but no one will respond to my
emails. Isn't there a way to find out
whats going on with the test results?
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poiu
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Dec 2007 Posts: 1
Posted: 12-19-07 03:11am
hi,
i'm new here and I have some thoughts.
First, if you cum quick your first many
times having sex that is normal.
ok.
I took SSRI's for depression and over the
course of taking them they had major
effects on ejaculation. While adjusting,
say from a week in through a month in,
ejaculation became nearly impossible. Then
for a long time ejaculation was in
complete control, then it became closer to
normal but still delayed some. The
problem with SSRI's is that it makes you
way less horny and can cause erection
problems. This happened to me when I tried
to use a condom. Unprotected it stayed up,
but with a condom it was like I couldn't
come close to feeling anything. Sex is
somewhat less emotionally intense feeling
on SSRI's and orgasms are weeker. But you
feel cooler banging for like over an
hour.
I have some other hints that I think work.
I haven't tried this one in a long time
but if you can get it to work it is
amazing. It worked for me and a friend.
You go til your about to ejaculate then
you train yourself to allow the cum to
ooze out without "involuntary muscle"
flexing. it doesn't shoot out it just
oozes and kinda gets rid of it but you
don't have an orgasm. My friend said he
had to push his penis back between his
legs. It takes a lot of mental control to
just relax- its all about relaxing. Then
after that you stay hard as a rock and
feel desensitized and can bang for so
long! Its like emptying the cum from your
insides lessens the sexual tension.
Another technique I don't know if people
are considering. Train yourself to chill
out. I agree with others that it is about
not flexing the PC and also thrusting
makes it worse. Go inside her and relax in
there, get comfortable. BTW, talk to her
about all this, if its a secret you'll
never succeeed. Go slow when you thrust.
I t hink your instincts and what you learn
from pornos makes you think you have to
bang like an animal right away. Girls
don't care about that anyway. Build to
that.
The way cumming works for me and everyone
I've talked to in depth is that you feel
like you'll cum in a minute but just keep
stopping and going slower. Then after a
while of this your dick just reaches this
desensitized point and you can go hard for
a long time.
Final thoughts, the way I hear a lot of
you talk about your female partners makes
me sick. If they are not supportive don't
give them your attention. You are worth
more than that. Women had the feminist
movement and that's great, now they are
working to enjoy sex. But that doesn't
mean they can belittle men for something
that is natural. They have learned to band
together and talk about what is normal for
their bodies and we as men are so ashamed
of ourselves and incapable of bonding that
we can only bare to figure this out on the
net. Check that statistics- PE as we know
it is virtually normal!!!!!!!!!!! How
would she feel if you dumped her for
having cellulite she couldn't work off and
then told everyone she looked ugly
naked???? Sex is something to learn with a
partner you have mutual respect for. If
you feel a girl leaves you because you cum
quick FORGET HER! GOOD RIDDANCE! Cumming
quick is a biologically advantageous
condition left over from apes. They all
cum quick because it increases chance of
conception. Its up to us to work WITH
women to improve the species. sorry for
the rant.
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Georgia59
Moderator
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 5542 Location: Along the Mississippi, USA
Thanks: 89
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Posted: 12-19-07 15:00pm
Hey now, I'm a woman. If I was with a guy
who had pe I would never belittle him!
I agree, if your woman isn't supportive
there's a serious problem with your
relationship.
(ok, I'll go back into hiding and leave
you guys alone)
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crone
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 2
Posted: 12-20-07 01:43am
I am sick of PE, It really frustrates me,
i have had it since i was like 12
(Masterbating back then and used to come
in 30 seconds) now i am at the age of 17
and still have this problem.
I can tell you this, I think the reason i
have it is because of Guilt and Anxiety,
and now no matter how relaxed i am, i
still cum like 10 secs, do i need therapy
or what, how is this ever going to be
resolved. I tried some tips and technique
methods for a week, but didnt help, I can
get all the sex i want, but this PE is in
the way of it, so i get worried and
frustrated, like honestly when i cum, I
FEEL SOOO BAD about everything, i feel
like omg i hate masterbating but yet i do
it.
.
..It is jsut
really frustrating....Is it because im
just inexperienced or is this an actual
problem? will...those longer lasting
trojan condoms do me an justice either?
