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Re: Problem.. Posted: 01-11-08 14:52pm
blast00
wrote:
okay so I never thought I
would say this, but I have gone to the
complete other extreme of PE. First off,
note I am taking 5 mg of lexapro. let me
repeat, 5 mg!!! That is very little, and
in all of the studies done with lexapro
regarding treatment of PE they take 10
mg.
Also, I am not a small guy. I am 19, 180
pounds or so, and 5'11. Pretty built, 15%
body fat. I have tons of trouble getting
it up now. I can't figure it out why.
This is day 4 of the lexapro.. I was
masturbating for 15 minutes, got it semi
hard, but not fully erect and just quit.
I'm not sure what to do guys, once I get
it hard I can go for a real long time,
which is what we ideally want, but the
fact that it is taking so long to get hard
is a problem... (unless its normal, and it
was my PE that made me get so hard and
ejaculate so fast..?)
I'd do one of two things -
1. see a doctor if your going to continue
taking them. or
2. stop taking them altogether and see if
you go back to the way you were before you
starting taking them.
Should I cut in the pill in fourths and
try 2.5 mg a day... ?? Is it possible my
body is still adjusting, and the peaks of
the lexapro are evident now until my body
adjusts?? what do you guys think..??
Also, I don't have a doctor to ask, I got
the pills from my cousin who is a doctor
but not trained whatso ever in this type
of stuff. He trusts me, as I am going to
med school soon, and said that I have to
figure it out for
myself.
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blast00
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Posted: 01-11-08 15:10pm
okay, I will stop taking them.
In regards to my cousin- he is trained in
SSRIs, just not their off label use for
treating PE so therefore he does not know
about dosages for PE.
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headshot
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Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 01-12-08 11:25am
ManOnTheMoon
wrote:
Headshot,
I am sorry for exposing you to my bullsh*t
posts. If you want me to admit your
problem is special, then fine. You are one
of possibly many who have no chance at
fixing their PE naturally. Feel better?
If you tried putting as much effort into
relaxing and listening to your body as you
did bashing my attempts at helping the
general community with a problem we all
share, maybe you'd get somewhere. At
least - if still nothing worked as I'm
sure you'd convince yourself nothing will
work - you'd be RELAXED and post something
like "No ManOnTheMoon, I have tried those
things all my life and I can't seem to get
anything to work. I'm upset about this
but certainly not going to tell someone
trying to help how inaccurate and
contradictory and "wrong wrong wrong" they
are.
OR ignore my suggestions one and all and
focus on what you believe. Maybe that's
what you'd like to do, and you're bothered
that my ideas are taking up space and
discussion time on this board, and since
it means nothing to you, you're selfishly
trying to end these theories?
I won't waste any more time trying to help
you. You were hostile right off the hop,
this is a thread where we want to help and
listen to each other, not reject ideas.
YES it does piss me off people giving
advice to others that i have done
perfectly(YES RELAXED) for years therefore
im happy to expose u, and as for this
'putting as much effort' well yeah how
about 1000s of times more effort sincei ve
done this for years for hours almost every
day. and being relaxed posting has nothign
to do wiht being relased masturbating.
Quote:
If you tried putting as much effort into
relaxing and listening to your body as you
did bashing my attempts at helping the
general community with a problem we all
share, maybe you'd get
somewhere.
again u make a stupid assumption that i
havent done this without any proof and no
style of posting is no proof especially
since ive being doing this for years
before i even posted here, and u wonder
why i would be pissed off. plus you talk
about putting effort into relaxing LOL
thats not relaxing are u stupid or
something, i was relaxed and i didnt have
to put 'effort' into it.
u bascially just ignored or didnt read
what i say because u still have the same
caca in your head. 'ignore my suggestions'
sigh... u are stuck in this world in your
head i am probably much more experienced
in the technique and exercise u speak of
than u, YES RELAXED and as for 'ignored
your suggestions' ive ALREADY DONE
YOUR SUGGESTIONS FOR THOUSANDS OF
HOURS.
and you say 'opinion' no wonder, because i
have experience not an opinion, and Tsunku
that caca won't work trust me.
sigh apart from SSRI's and the bs that
i've already tried, is there anything u
can do to last indefinately? it has to be
possible because pornstars can go for as
long as they like.
Quote:
2) regarding
prozac, prozac is a SSRI just like lexapro
which I am currently taking. What dosage
of prozac do you plan on taking, I can ask
my cousin, the doctor about it and how
much should be taken for PE (which you
most definitely have textbook definition).
yes ask him, i dont know what dosage, its
not actually my prozac i just managed to
get my hands on some.
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blast00
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Acutally Posted: 01-12-08 12:38pm
actually.. porn stars don't go for hours.
If you look carefully, you will notice
that often after he cums, they pause the
filming, wait 20 minutes for him to get
hard again and then keep going... Also
some of them cum multiple times.
There are tricks to the filming industry
that they use.
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wan1
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Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 2
Posted: 01-12-08 15:04pm
Thanks for all the replies back to me. It
is nice to know that understanding can
help you overcome the problem.
any other suggestions with how i could
help would be appreicated
x
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Tsunku
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Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 6
Posted: 01-12-08 19:01pm
This is just childish now.
Good luck, guys. I'd rather do this on my
own.
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ManOnTheMoon
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Headshot Posted: 01-13-08 17:17pm
Headshot, I hope your happy with yourself
in having spoiled this thread. Please
take your hostility elsewhere so this
relaxed and helpful discussion about PE
can continue.
Just because my advice didn't work for you
(if you actually did it properly) gives
you NO reason to get "pissed off" and
cause such an issue. You are very
immature and perhaps if you ever "grow up"
you're perspective on PE will change and
then you will find a solution.
Georgia sorry for being part of the
problem - I hope you can understand whats
going on here and see that we could do
without headshots negativity.
Blast00, see a doctor if your interesting
in continuing the drugs. Personally I
would never take an anti-depressant drug
unless I had depression and it was causing
several issues.
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blast00
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Keep Going.. Posted: 01-13-08 17:40pm
so just reinterating what seems to have
worked for people is 12.5 mg of paxil is
why NYC and POM stopped checking.
and stud spray
what do you guys think about my theory
regarding if you cum within the first 10
seconds or so, before you can even thrust
that it is mainly psychological because
your penis has not had enough stimulation
yet to even cum based on sensitivity, and
therefore desentisizing stuff won't
help??
VS if you cum within a minute or so after
a few thrusts its more of a sensitivity
issue..
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blast00
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Stu? Posted: 01-13-08 20:39pm
guys, I was reading some other forums and
someone recommended this thing called the
fleshlight STU training unit.. its
basically a rubber vagina for people with
PE, so they can have sex as much with it
and practice controlling.
I'm considering getting it, what do you
think?
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MandM
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Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 01-13-08 22:47pm
Hey Guys,
I'm still around, I haven't checked
back in a couple of weeks, but I do see
there has been a ton of new posts. Work is
so crazy these days, we barely have time
to do IT anymore . But I hopefully
plan on reading all these new posts
tomorrow night and analyzing it.
Talk to you all soon.
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Georgia59
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Re: Stamina Spray Posted: 01-14-08 12:24pm
MikeH90
wrote:
tweeder
wrote:
hey, been checkin out the
site, never really realised i had PE but
now that i have a steady gf i can see
clearly, i've been avoiding sex which is
hard, until i receive the stamina spray i
ordered online, i also ordered climinax
and will try that. what i'm wondering is
how exactly should i use the spray, can
you use it when soft or will you not be
able to get hard again, any guys who have
used it wanna tell me their routine id be
greatly
appreciated.
Tweeder - I believe I posted on one of
these pages how I got the spray to work
for me. Basically spray it on when
flaccid, let it dry and give it a few
minutes to numb the area. This is a good
time for foreplay, get her going. I found
out (my experience may differ from yours
though) that I need to flaccid and must
wait 3-5 minutes for it to work. Also,
you'll need to experiment with one, two or
3 squirts, depending on how sensitive you
are. I did 3 the first time and although I
got hard I couldn't cum. Kinda trial and
error till you get the hang of it.
hope this helps.
Mike
Are you wearing a condom? just want to
make sure you aren't making your girl's
vagina numb... lol, that would suck.
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MikeH90
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Re: Stamina Spray Posted: 01-14-08 12:38pm
Georgia59
wrote:
MikeH90
wrote:
tweeder
wrote:
hey, been checkin out the
site, never really realised i had PE but
now that i have a steady gf i can see
clearly, i've been avoiding sex which is
hard, until i receive the stamina spray i
ordered online, i also ordered climinax
and will try that. what i'm wondering is
how exactly should i use the spray, can
you use it when soft or will you not be
able to get hard again, any guys who have
used it wanna tell me their routine id be
greatly
appreciated.
Tweeder - I believe I posted on one of
these pages how I got the spray to work
for me. Basically spray it on when
flaccid, let it dry and give it a few
minutes to numb the area. This is a good
time for foreplay, get her going. I found
out (my experience may differ from yours
though) that I need to flaccid and must
wait 3-5 minutes for it to work. Also,
you'll need to experiment with one, two or
3 squirts, depending on how sensitive you
are. I did 3 the first time and although I
got hard I couldn't cum. Kinda trial and
error till you get the hang of it.
hope this helps.
Mike
Are you wearing a condom? just want to
make sure you aren't making your girl's
vagina numb... lol, that would
suck.
No condom, after its dry it shouldn't
effect her at all.
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Georgia59
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Posted: 01-14-08 12:39pm
oh ok. Just wondering.
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MandM
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Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Posts: 50
Posted: 01-14-08 21:11pm
Well I’ve read through many posts and
have the following points for discussion:
Minuteman – So you really take all those
OTC pills at once? 6 pills of St. John’s
Wart seem a bit excessive. Taking that
much medication at once can have real
harmful side effects.
Blast00 – Do you ejaculate quickly when
she gives you that first Hand job or other
stimulation? If so, how does that feel.
Are you still trying to hold back
ejaculating, does it feel good or rushed
and unnatural? I don’t really think
there’s a method of masturbating that
will stop PE. I’ve been using the
Stop-Start technique for at least 10
years, and that hasn’t helped a wink. As
far as the desensitizing condoms go, I
think the stuff in those is very mild,
hence why you still ejaculating quickly.
As mentioned previously, the Stud Spray or
other sprays will work better, as those
are a bit stronger. I think the performax
one’s were more geared towards the
general population.
PhantomTrain – Some people can get
another erection right after ejaculating,
but some can’t. The older you get, the
longer it takes before you can get another
erection. I think it’s called the
refractory phase. I’m lucky now, because
I can still get another erection rather
quickly after my first ejaculation.
Tsunku – We are very similar. I would
also say that I’m a very
sexually-charged person. I feel as though
I really don’t enjoy sex during the
first round of intercourse. It feels very
unnatural and very joyless, and definitely
unsatisfying. During round 2 of
intercourse, I can usually last much
longer, but I’m not as sexually charged
as I would be during pre-intercourse. Like
I’ve been saying, I want to know how a
normal person perceives sex. What does it
feel like to feel an amazing bodily
sensation for longer than 2 minutes? Same
thing with a BJ, how does that feel for 2
minutes straight? As soon as that starts
for me, it’s over. It makes me ejaculate
extremely fast, much much faster than
penetration. Even on the 2nd or 3rd
ejaculation, I cum quickly with a BJ.
I understand why you think your case is
physical; I’m sure mine is too. I have
very quick reflexes, I was an all-star
college athlete with extremely quick
hands. That’s why I’m worried, because
I think its part of my physiology too.
We seem to have a lot of people on this
forum trying many things, but I still
think the big problem is that there are
different kinds of PE. 1. People who
ejaculate quickly with any physical touch,
ie: penetration, handjob, BJ,
masturbation, or anything with friction.
2. People who ejaculate quickly only
during intercourse, IE: can last long
during a BJ, handjob, and or maturbation.
3. People who ejaculate quickly with any
physical stimulation from a partner, but
last longer during solo masturbation.
Number 1 is definitely worse, because I
think this is more of a physical problem.
Blast00 – I like your initiative! I
think you will have the best luck with
Medication and the Stud Spray. The extra
thick condom may help you out, but your
partner may not like it; she will want to
feel you too. I don’t think kegels are
too good, IMHO. Even if you can clench and
subside ejaculation, you will not be able
to hold it for long or enjoy that time.
Maybe you’d get 15 seconds before you
blow.
Quickdraw – I’m glad that has worked
for you! It seems as though your case may
have been more on the mental side; not
saying your crazy or anything . You were able to
get head and last awhile, which created
sensations and friction on your willy, but
sex through you off. Relaxing yourself
helped you big time. You envisioned it,
and didn’t get yourself so worked up for
sex, which can definitely help. Keep us
informed how this continues to go for
you.
ManOnTheMoon – Good Pep talk. I do
really think the best thing is to
practice. Obviously, it helps to have a
constant partner. I am engaged, but we
both still live at home, in order to save
more money. So, I really haven’t had
much time to really practice. When it does
come along, I’m like Oh Man, sex,
that’s so exciting. I’m just so turned
on when it does come along, I forgot about
trying to control myself. But on the other
hand, when I masturbate, I’m not
extremely turned on, sometimes I’m
rather blah, but I still ejaculate
quickly. This goes back to each different
type of PE. You can see just by reading
through all these posts, that each poster
falls into another category. This is why
there is not a one-for-all cure. Like
I’ve been promoting, everyone should
probably read the Coping with PE book, and
answer the questions in the book. It will
diagnose which kind of PE you have. I have
the physical kind, which is the hardest to
correct.
Okay, Well that’s my input up until
about page 24 or 25. Oh, no need to fight
on here, we need to be open-minded and
full of support for one another.
PS: I saw something on AOL the other day,
and it ranked most internet searches by
men. Premature Ejaculation was on the
top-ten, so this is a fairly common
problem. I just wished that we could get
some approval from the FDA. I mean, look
at the ED meds, that made some many men
and women happier and confident.
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primeaque86
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Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4
Hey, a New Member That Is Interested In the Topic.... Posted: 01-14-08 21:48pm
im gay.... most often, we have anal sex
with my guy,,,, I just wonder if it is the
same (the sensation he feels when having
intercourse with his female one), or does
it take so different.?... He will
ejaculate for around 30 thrusts or last
for 3 minutes..... I think im getting out
of the topic but i know u can help me
about this matter....
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Georgia59
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Posted: 01-14-08 22:53pm
Anal penetration is tighter and may be
more stimulating, therefore, he may
ejaculate more quickly in an anus than a
vagina, if that's what you were asking.
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blast00
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to MandM Posted: 01-15-08 22:42pm
MandM- I do not recall how long can you
last masterbating? if you claim your issue
is basically phsyical, stimulation
regardless of who is giving it should
cause you to ejaculate quickly when
touching the correct spots.
I feel like just touching your penis more
and more in that area would desensitize it
slightly. There has to be other options
and ways.
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ManOnTheMoon
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Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 11
Posted: 01-16-08 01:52am
Rocketman, to me your case sounds mental.
Likely four years ago you built up
endurance with confidence and relaxation
because you were comfortable. Then later
on when you got back into sex, you went
off quick (as expected - ever heard
someone say "out of practice"?) and let it
get to your head. Convince yourself you
can do what you used to be able to do, go
into it with the right mindset and I think
you can figure this out.
Blast I agree that would work at getting
the area "desensitized". More and more
stimulation and strong mind control would
train your brain not to associate that
stimulation with the orgasm mechanism.
This thinking has been working for me.
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MandM
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Re: to MandM Posted: 01-16-08 20:01pm
blast00
wrote:
MandM- I do not recall how
long can you last masterbating? if you
claim your issue is basically phsyical,
stimulation regardless of who is giving it
should cause you to ejaculate quickly when
touching the correct spots.
I feel like just touching your penis more
and more in that area would desensitize it
slightly. There has to be other options
and ways.
I've alway ejaculated quickly, with any
sort of physical touch. When I masterbate,
I feel the urge to come very quickly. If I
would keep stroking without stopping, I
doubt I'd last 30 seconds. I know where
the correct spot it, it's right under the
head of my penis. If I were just to stroke
the base, without touching the tip, I
would be able to last awhile. I believe I
mentioned, way back when, that if I were
to do it doggiestyle, I could last a
little bit longer, because there was more
friction at the base of my penis, as
opposed to the tip.
No matter how much I touch the sensitive
area, it will never desensitize. This is
why I consider myself to have a physical
PE, there are no instances, when friction
is involved, that I ever last long. That's
why the desensitizing cream has worked so
good.
Like I've been saying all along, there are
different types of PE. I've tried mind
control, I've tried honing in on other
parts of my body, instead of focusing on
the penile sensations, I've tried a lot.
Since you may have a different type, you
may not understand where I'm coming from.
Oh, BTW, Rocketman, it is possible just to
develop PE. That is another oddity. You
could last long all your life, and one
day, bam!, you can have PE. There are
other people who have experienced this
phenominon as well. The PE book explains
this, is yet, another type of PE.
I'm fairly sure that, in many cases, PE is
not mental. Not too long ago, everyone
KNEW erectile dysfunction was mental.
Obviously, this was proved not to be true
in most cases.
If you think you're case is mental, then
you have a very good chance of learning
how to have a normal ejaculation, after
whatever procedures.
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rocketman1
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Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 29
Posted: 01-17-08 00:15am
I wonder why they decided to review my
post?? lol
All i said was I used to go for 40+
minutes of great sex and now I have PE.. I
really hate PE by the way lol.. the 40+
minutes of sex was the greatest thing ever
and I will CONQUER this PE!!
so MandM what did the PE book say for me
to do to cure this problem!???
. But I hopefully
plan on reading all these new posts
tomorrow night and analyzing it.
