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Posted: 03-26-07 07:08am
HealthySex
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A little news...
Like some of you may have read I've done a
lot of research into substances that may
help treat PE. From 5-htp and Tryptophan
affecting serotonin (decreasing
Adrenaline), to GABA decreasing
neurotransmitter activity, to Methionine
affecting histamine levels, and Chinese
herbs that act as astringents, relaxants,
diuretics, etc, etc, etc.
Problem is I can't really experiment with
them, because I have another health
problem to take care of and I don't want
to overload on supplements. So since
certain substances would best be taken as
a daily supplement, I haven't gotten into
many. However, certain ones may act
faster.
On two occasions I have put some of these
to a test. Which ones I really need, I'm
not sure, and I hope to research and
experiment more in the future with these
(hopefully with some help from members
here). Anyway, the ones I tried were
Rhodiola (tincture), Cordyceps (capsules),
Schizandra & Lycium (tincture), and
GABA (capsule). For the purpose of
relaxing I also took a product containing
Passion Flower, L-Theanine and Valerian.
That covers anxiety related PE as well as
helps keep the body, and therefore the
pelvic muscles relaxed.
Both occasions were successful as I did
not experience PE. Granted, I also kept my
pelvic muscles as relaxed as possible and
did positions that would best grant that.
Woman-on-top, is the one I find easiest to
relax the pelvic muscles (while Missionary
is the worst), but you might be different.
I lasted several minutes of intercourse,
that includes foreplay, handjob, blowjob,
etc. The several minutes could have been
extended, but since I had already brought
my partner to orgasm already and she was
reaching again through intercourse, I
released with her.
It's possible that GABA had the greatest
affect as it decreases neurotransmitter
activity, but all the ingredients are
beneficial to sexual health, PE, or
relaxation. The GABA I took was 250mg and
not much more should be needed, and likely
shouldn't exceed 350mg. If I were to
create a formula it would most likely be
included, however it'd be more of a
pre-performance formula. If I were to
create a daily formula meant for long-term
use it would likely not be ideal.
Just thought I'd let you guys know.
Perhaps some of you would like to try some
things and we could better identify those
substances that are beneficial.
Mixed with practice and relaxation,
perhaps they would not need to be taken
indefinitely, but rather as a training
aid.
I am being to believe that the reason that
they haven't found a 'once and for all
cure' is that we're all affected
differently, so what works for one might
not work for the other. You say that you
last longer with your wife on top and that
the missionary position is worse for you.
I am totally the opposite. When she is on
top its over within 30 seconds, if I am on
I can control how fast thrust and can even
pull out and use the stop start technique.
I assume that this difference also
translates to what types of supplements
you take as well. Something might cure you
but not be effective for someone else.
Hopefully through this forum we can at
least tell everyone what works for us and
at least share knowledge. If we read that
90% of us tried one kind of supplement and
nobody found it to work that should help
the next guy out. He can cross that
particular thing of his list of things to
try.
Healthysex - what product did you try? The
one with passion flower, L-Theanine and
Valerian. I think I suffer from anxiety
related PE and might want to look into
this product.
thanks!!
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MikeH90
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Orexis Posted: 03-26-07 12:23pm
Has anyone tried Orexis?
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POM82
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Posted: 03-26-07 12:55pm
Never heard of them, but as I was looking
into them I came across another one VIGrx,
so many wonderpills out there
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 03-26-07 12:59pm
So do ya'll actually try these pills? do
they work?
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POM82
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:02pm
Ive tried a whole bunch of them and
currently trying one too, havent gotten
down and dirty yet so I
cant tell you if it works but its one of
those the longer you take them the better
pills so Im not rushing it.
There is only one pill that has ever
worked for me, its called xoxdvd and if
the one im taking now doesnt work im gonna
get some more xoxdvds.
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:08pm
huh! ok, well if they work then
great....but how much money are you
spending on these little trials?
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POM82
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:13pm
WAYYY too much...but for me this is
something I cant put a price on, but I've
kinda reached my limit,
thats contradicting. Hopefully in my case
practice will make perfect.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:21pm
POM82
wrote:
WAYYY too much...but for me
this is something I cant put a price on,
but I've kinda reached my limit,
thats contradicting. Hopefully in my case
practice will make
perfect.
thats the problem, there are so many out
there where do you begin and when do you
say enough is enough. If you have to take
something 3 months before it is supposed
to work then you find out it doesn't your
back to square one and out a bunch of $$.
As much as I love being a guy and having a
dick this is one case where its a curse!
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Willa Weintraub
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:31pm
POM82
wrote:
Ive tried a whole bunch of
them and currently trying one too, havent
gotten down and dirty yet so I
cant tell you if it works but its one of
those the longer you take them the better
pills so Im not rushing it.
There is only one pill that has ever
worked for me, its called xoxdvd and if
the one im taking now doesnt work im gonna
get some more
xoxdvds.
if you already found
somethingt hat works,why not keep using
it?
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:35pm
~*~Melissa~*~
wrote:
POM82
wrote:
Ive tried a whole bunch of
them and currently trying one too, havent
gotten down and dirty yet so I
cant tell you if it works but its one of
those the longer you take them the better
pills so Im not rushing it.
There is only one pill that has ever
worked for me, its called xoxdvd and if
the one im taking now doesnt work im gonna
get some more
xoxdvds.
if you already found
somethingt hat works,why not keep using
it?
yeah if xoxdvd worked y did u switch?
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POM82
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:37pm
The sexshop ran out, it was their last one
and I went back to ask the manager if she
would be getting more but she said that
they were hard to get across the border so
I contacted the compnay and they told me
they would ship to canada if I
ordered...?? So thats what ill do, hope I
wont have too but Ill drive down there to
get them if I have too.
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:41pm
that is what i was thinking. Why not
stick with what works? I know i sure
would. But i guess there is always hope
that something will work better.
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Willa Weintraub
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:44pm
Sunflower_pie81
wrote:
that is what i was thinking.
Why not stick with what works? I know i
sure would. But i guess there is always
hope that something will work
better.
and may be a lil more
affordable!
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POM82
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:51pm
Actually it comes out about equal in the
end. I guess with the xoxdvd I feel as if
Im relying on the pill to fix me, and it
does which is great but with the last
longer3(current supplement) it has 5-htp
whih boosts serotonin and maybe my brain
will remember this pattern so when im
having sex it will release serotonin and
eventually be able to ween off the last
longer, come to think of it, that is
exactly what its supposed to do.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-26-07 13:55pm
POM82
wrote:
Actually it comes out about
equal in the end. I guess with the xoxdvd
I feel as if Im relying on the pill to fix
me, and it does which is great but with
the last longer3(current supplement) it
has 5-htp whih boosts serotonin and maybe
my brain will remember this pattern so
when im having sex it will release
serotonin and eventually be able to ween
off the last longer, come to think of it,
that is exactly what its supposed to
do.
yeah it would be nice to find something
that cures it and allows you to stop
taking it eventually.
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 03-26-07 14:07pm
and that is what this xoxdvd stuff will
do? Ween you off of it and kind of cure
you?
I am so sorry i have so many questions.
If it's a bother then let me know.
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MikeH90
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Posted: 03-26-07 14:09pm
Sunflower_pie81
wrote:
and that is what this xoxdvd
stuff will do? Ween you off of it and
kind of cure you?
I am so sorry i have so many questions.
If it's a bother then let me
know.
no i think he was saying that the 5-htp
would ween you off it.
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POM82
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Posted: 03-26-07 14:14pm
yup, the questions dont bother me, its
rare that i can talk to females about
this. glad to chat.
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Sunflower_pie81
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Posted: 03-26-07 14:26pm
Ok i am just going to be honest.
I thought PE was just an excuse for men to
get out of pleasing their chick. Like a
few pages back where someone was talking
about the whole alpha male thing. i
totally hate that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but
ummmm i guess it really is and can be a
problem. I thought it was something that
would/could change with more sex....but i
guess i was wrong. this is really
embarrising to you? and most of your gals
handle it ok?
huh!!!!
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Posted: 03-26-07 14:35pm
Sunflower_pie81
wrote:
Ok i am just going to be
honest.
I thought PE was just an excuse for men to
get out of pleasing their chick. Like a
few pages back where someone was talking
about the whole alpha male thing. i
totally hate that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but
ummmm i guess it really is and can be a
problem. I thought it was something that
would/could change with more sex....but i
guess i was wrong. this is really
embarrising to you? and most of your gals
handle it ok?
huh!!!!
i doubt that any guy would use that as an
excuse to not please his girl. I find it
most embarrssing that I can't control my
body and feel like less of a man because
of it. Plus I love having sex so why would
I want to end it sooner just to not please
her.
When I have more sex I usually can last
longer, I could have sex 4 or 5 times a
week but the wife doesn't have the sex
drive I do, plus we have kids around too
so we really are lucky to get in 1 a
week.
I haven't really discussed it with the
wife I have basically been trying to deal
with it on my own.
so I
cant tell you if it works but its one of
those the longer you take them the better
pills so Im not rushing it.
thats contradicting. Hopefully in my case
practice will make perfect.
