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leaf4

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Posted: 06-02-08 11:25am

Hey. So i've just got a new girlfriend and we've been dating for a month, she grabbed my penis and stroked it for like 30 seconds and i came, it was embarassing but she seems cool about it so thats ok, but still i would like to find some solutions i was reading up and they were saying be comfortable with your body, mate etc and all the other stuff, i've tried kegels and so far its only helping while i masturbate, but when i'm with my girlfriend its lasted a minute tops, i'm going to try wankin it a few hours before we do anything to see if that makes it last longer. but i have a few questions, what is the "pc" but how can i relax it and make myself last longer when i finally get to penetration. Also i'm only 17 but i'm a confident person so i don't believe that confidence is the problem, maybe inexperience? Also i'm un circumsized so maybe it's sensitivity?
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Steve11

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Posted: 06-02-08 17:16pm

jprice79144 wrote:
Steve11 wrote:
hey guys is there anything i can put inside my condom that will cover my penis/condom touching? maybe so it desenterizes me so i cant feel everything when i'm inside?

i really need suggestions Sad


there are last longer condoms yes. but you really need to realise that ejaculation is caused by your pc and that premature ejaculation is caused by having a hyperactive pc. i relaxed my pc for a week and then jacked off and could last twice as long. so im going to do it all summer and then i will be cured like the other people in this forum who did it.


Yeah, I read that. Iv been relaxing them for 2 day's now. But I'm talking about maybe if i wrapped something around my penis before I put the condom. The only thing I can think of is getting a little bit of toilet paper, and wrapping a little bit around my penis, both ways so after I put the condom on, it will stay wrapped around my penis.

Would that work? it's only a little bit, and I would still be able to feel inside her I wouldn't ejaculate so quick.


EDIT: The reason I say this, is because I have a new gf coming over tonight, and she really wants to have sex, so I thought of this quick-solution until relaxing my pc starts working. I also use desensitizing stud spray.
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EricE

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Posted: 06-03-08 20:04pm

I do think relaxing your PC works. I tried it out when my gf gave me a BJ. Still after a while it becomes too hard to relax for some reason (probably excitement).

And I'm not sure how to relax my PC (all day long). I know it's the muscle you use when taking a pee. When I take a pee i have control over it and I obviously know when I'm relaxing it and when I'm not but after that it doesn't really give an indication on wether I'm relaxing it or not.

I once had a multiple orgasm by using my pc a long time ago trying to hold in from ejaculating.
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EricE

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Posted: 06-03-08 20:08pm

Steve11 wrote:
jprice79144 wrote:
Steve11 wrote:
hey guys is there anything i can put inside my condom that will cover my penis/condom touching? maybe so it desenterizes me so i cant feel everything when i'm inside?

i really need suggestions Sad


there are last longer condoms yes. but you really need to realise that ejaculation is caused by your pc and that premature ejaculation is caused by having a hyperactive pc. i relaxed my pc for a week and then jacked off and could last twice as long. so im going to do it all summer and then i will be cured like the other people in this forum who did it.


Yeah, I read that. Iv been relaxing them for 2 day's now. But I'm talking about maybe if i wrapped something around my penis before I put the condom. The only thing I can think of is getting a little bit of toilet paper, and wrapping a little bit around my penis, both ways so after I put the condom on, it will stay wrapped around my penis.

Would that work? it's only a little bit, and I would still be able to feel inside her I wouldn't ejaculate so quick.


EDIT: The reason I say this, is because I have a new gf coming over tonight, and she really wants to have sex, so I thought of this quick-solution until relaxing my pc starts working. I also use desensitizing stud spray.

Don't want to burst your bubble but if she finds out it might be a little bit embarassing.

Does the stud spray make you last a lot longer?
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Damendamandaman

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Posted: 06-03-08 21:23pm

i think about using stud spary plus a trojan longer lasting. because if i go limp, which i dont think there is a chance i get a freaking hard one by her just sitting on my lap, i will just lower the dosage each time to see what works.
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jprice79144

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Posted: 06-04-08 10:14am

Damendamandaman wrote:
I can't seem to relax my pc all day and when i have sex, when i thrust its really hard not to squeeze.


The position for best control of the PC muscle to hold off ejaculation during sex is for her to be on top. That way your whole body is relaxed and you can concentrate on keeping that one muscle (PC) relaxed away from your g-spot (prostate). You need to take thrusting out of the situation until you get to where people like john414 have got to. Read his posts a few pages back.

It takes a couple weeks to get the hang of relaxing your PC muscle in the day. I still can't do it unless I'm stood up, so it's not really affected sex yet but I can last longer during oral and masturbation.

I can relax it 75% when I'm walking, and when I'm stood still it relaxes further to about 100% I'd say.

Stud spray and trojan/performax condoms do work up to a point, but what I found was that I sub-consciously used my PC muscle to support my erection, and when I forced my PC to relax during sex so I could control my ejaculation, the PC muscles no longer supported my erection and so the numbing stuff in the condoms made me start to lose my erection.

I take Ginkgo to support my erection so that I don't have to use my PC muscle, so I can relax it to last longer.
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jprice79144

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Posted: 06-06-08 12:56pm

..have gone a bit quiet. Are you all having success with the PC relaxation? I think it's working, but I'm also looking into male multiple orgams, where you orgasm without ejaculation the first few times and then burst when you're ready.
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blast00

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Posted: 06-06-08 22:48pm

guys, in order to solve this we all need to work together. There is a difference between relaxing your PC and stretching it. I think what people are refering to when they say they relax there PC is that they push out, as though they are going poop when they masturbate and have sex..

am I correct on this judgment?

I tried masterbating today while pushing out and I lasted much longer. Everyone should try this and post their results.
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Jimmster

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Posted: 06-08-08 09:04am

I have been working away from home for the last 10 days, so i used the evenings to get some long practice in at keeping that old PC relaxed. I was getting really good at it and can essentially wank forever now without coming.

actual sex is different, though, but i can't wait to try it out again in the next few days (wife's period began the day I got back - she doesn't like doing it during that).

One thing that was very clear during "practice" was that mojo is very critical, at least for me. By mojo I mean that horniness that builds up day by day if you don't ejaculate. For me after three days of abstinence I get much better erections that last, but it is harder not to come early. For ages I thought that masturbating during the day before having sex was a good way to get the urgency down, but it makes my PE worse because I struggle to stay hard and it is more difficult to get aroused.

I have now seen that it is much better to get your mojo right up high and practice the relaxing during the day technique as much as possible. I feel like it is really going well, and with a great improvement last time I had sex (from coming before entry (!) to lasting a couple of minutes inside) I can't wait to try it out again.

On the working away from home thing, too, I am certain now that what I used to do whilst staying in hotels for a week or more alone, i.e. masturbate 2-3 times a day, is what caused my chronic PE. I am certain my body got really good a having an orgasm when my mojo was really, really low, and often without a proper erection, so with my partner that meant all those muscles were automatically tightening in the best possible trained way to orgasm quickly! AAAAArrrrggghh!!!

So now when I practice alone, I don't let myself come! That is difficult, but that way my mojo stays high, and i get better at not falling over the cliff.

I agree, we are all in this together, and I was so desperate with it that I swore to myself that if i ever got over it I would share the info here, so i'll keep you posted in the next week or so whether it is good or bad (because I think everyone should know if it is slow to work or is not working so we stay realistic).

Keep it up! Ha!
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Damendamandaman

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Posted: 06-09-08 10:14am

desmond:

well i looked at the site, it is pretty expensive but PLEASE keep us updated because if it really works I would like to give it a try.

The guys here are gonna say "THIS ISN'T A CURE!" and say relaxation is the best way. Maybe, maybe not, everything is worth a shot not just relaxing your PC.

So keep us updated on how it's working!

What's the side effects you've noticed?
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Jimmster

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all comers (!)
Posted: 06-09-08 10:37am

No, I agree that everyone should report anything successful in getting past this terrible condition. That is the only way we can get a wide-ranging, representative sample of what works and what doesn't. Personally I am skeptical about pill cures that cost as much as that, but if it does work for someone then we all need to know about it.

I don't think it is right when people get dogmatic and protective about their own favoured answer, and some things may work well for one guy and not for the next.

Openness.

Jimmster
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jprice79144

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Posted: 06-09-08 14:30pm

I just want to confirm what John414 said a while ago. That if you push your pc out it can make you want to come quicker like squeezing it does. The "sweet spot" he mentioned is inbetween contracting the PC and forcing it to relax. When I found the sweet spot I could go a lot longer without having to stop than I could when I was pushing the PC out as much as possible.

So it really is relaxing the muscle. Not forcing it to relax. Because that's not really relaxing it.

I only got to this point by trying to relax the muscle all the time when I was stood up and/or walking. But I still have a long way to go.
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John414

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Posted: 06-09-08 20:04pm

hey guys I've been keeping up on reading everyones progress it helps me stay confident to hear that people are having success! Well here's what i want to add

I found this ebook about learning to control pe with tantric sex. The more i read it the more i was amazed! It is EXACTLY this relaxation method we have all been trying.

So this tantra sex that has been around for hundreds of years is exactly what we have stumbled upon here.

It doesn't focus on pc relaxation as much as i have but all the other tips actually do add to the overall control.

I don't want this to confuse anyone if you guys are having success DON'T let this tantric thing confuse you, just keep doing what you're doing. I just wanted to help instill some more confidence in you guys knowing that we're not the only ones who have tried this and had success
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treble_clef

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Posted: 06-10-08 07:05am

Hey guys,

I'm 18 years old and me and my girlfriend tried to have sex for the first time the other night. We engaged in plently of foreplay which i was perfectly fine with but as soon as(and i mean as soon as) i tried to penatrate her, i came. Is that normal for your first time. I haven't really been sexually previously except for oral sex but I am now terrified to try again incase it happens again. What are the chances are it happening again???

Thanks for any advice/infomation
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John414

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Posted: 06-10-08 19:30pm

Ok i learned something that makes a huge difference for me. Now the relaxation method was working pretty good for me. But i started to developed this feeling like uh oh what if i don't do this perfect and what if i lose focus the little things started to cause some anxiety.

Now to have total control i just go into having sex like I WANT TO DO THIS!! and feeling like I AM GOING TO HIT THAT SH**T....NOT an anxious feeling like "i hope this go goods for her". Just blow up your confidence like your ready to rock her world. And believe yourself Get kinda pissed GET INTO IT!!! Show her your an animal but all the while still keeping that pc muscles and pelvic muscles relaxed. This made soooo much of a difference. The combination of PC relaxation method and blowing up your drive is the BEST combination i have had so far. i mean complete control
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John414

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Posted: 06-10-08 19:33pm

Ok i learned something that makes a huge difference for me. Now the relaxation method was working pretty good for me. But i started to developed this feeling like uh oh what if i don't do this perfect and what if i lose focus the little things started to cause some anxiety.

Now to have total control i just go into having sex like I WANT TO DO THIS!! and feeling like I AM GOING TO HIT THAT SH**T....NOT an anxious feeling like "i hope this go goods for her". Just blow up your confidence like your ready to rock her world. And believe yourself Get kinda pissed GET INTO IT!!! Show her your an animal but all the while still keeping that pc muscles and pelvic muscles relaxed. This made soooo much of a difference. The combination of PC relaxation method and blowing up your drive is the BEST combination i have had so far. i mean complete control
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jprice79144

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Posted: 06-11-08 09:00am

Just following up on what Jimmster said about sharing any bit of success. Yesterday I ejaculated on penetration, but two days before my girl orgasmed four times before I decided not to hold off any longer. So it is all about perfecting the PC relaxation.

Does anyone else notice aches in their testicles the day after sex?

John414: I have a feeling that not only is Tantra the same as what we are on to, but Chikong breathing may also be the same.

I'm looking into orgasm without ejaculation. Basically men dont realise that they are two unique and seperate things, because they are used to them happening so close together.

There is apparently a split second between orgasm and ejaculation where if you use the PC muscle to stop ejaculation (contracting, relaxing or pushing out, im not yet sure which?) you still get the orgasm, and as you learn the technique you can have several awesome highs before you actually choose to shoot your load.

It all seems to be about getting close enough to feel you are going to come, but managing not to.. This seems pretty crazy but if it works then not only will I have cured my PE but I will learn to feel the orgasms that 95% of men never have.
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ToddyK

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Instead of staving off ejaculation...
Posted: 06-11-08 12:00pm

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Hi all. I just turned 50 and maybe I need to thank God for this "miracle". I didn't know about Kegels. I just happened onto this solution that works great for me. When I'm having sex and the urge to ejaculate comes, we stop and I tense up pc muscles and most of my body actually and block the mental release of an ejaculation (easier said than done, I know) and while tensing my body it seems some of the ejaculate does release. After 15 or so seconds the event passes and I can continue sex with much less sensitivity, but the final ejaculation is still to come. It's like a mini "warning shot" that releases much of the pressure of the glands (prostate?) that want to "blow". Sometimes I have to repeat it once or twice. Oh, but what a joy to have that sensitivity gone. I can then mount up like a stud and give my wife the strong sex she craves and be in control. It's great. Not sure how this would work with others, younger men in particular.
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MandM

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Posted: 06-11-08 21:22pm

Hey All,
I haven't posted in a bit, but I have been checking back to read posts occasionally. I decided to give the reverse kegal technique a try for a couple of months. Here are few things that I have noticed for MY situation:
Upon initial masterbation, the reverse kegal technique does seem to subside the initial urge to ejaculate. However, during constant stroking, ejaculation cannot be stopped. When I fell the urge coming, I would stop and push out on the muscle, which would reduce the urgency, but it would not stop it.
I also noticed if I was going to ejaculate, and I still pushed out (reverse kegal) on the muscle fairly hard, my orgasm would totally suck. I would not get the same bodily sensations like I did when I clenched the muscle. Further, I've begun to notice that when I do ejaculate, the load doesn't seem to burst out like it used to, rather it seems to come out slower/ less dramatic.

I really haven't had much sex lately, so I cannot comment too much on that. I am really not so sure that I like the way the reverse kegals have been working for me. I haven't used any of the desensitizing cream in a while, but I think that I may go back to using the Stud spray. I know that it's a bandaid, but so far that has given me the best results.
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rambous

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Re: Instead of staving off ejaculation...
Posted: 06-11-08 22:46pm

ToddyK wrote:
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Hi all. I just turned 50 and maybe I need to thank God for this "miracle". I didn't know about Kegels. I just happened onto this solution that works great for me. When I'm having sex and the urge to ejaculate comes, we stop and I tense up pc muscles and most of my body actually and block the mental release of an ejaculation (easier said than done, I know) and while tensing my body it seems some of the ejaculate does release. After 15 or so seconds the event passes and I can continue sex with much less sensitivity, but the final ejaculation is still to come. It's like a mini "warning shot" that releases much of the pressure of the glands (prostate?) that want to "blow". Sometimes I have to repeat it once or twice. Oh, but what a joy to have that sensitivity gone. I can then mount up like a stud and give my wife the strong sex she craves and be in control. It's great. Not sure how this would work with others, younger men in particular.


i think this guy is onto something, i did the exact same thing, before i ejaculated i clenched my pc as hard as i could, for like five seconds, and finally i gave up and i ejaculated only i bit, which is strange cause i haven't done it in 3 weeks. but after this my erection was still there, the sensitivity was not and i felt like i could do anything with it. i think if you do the heavy breathing, relaxed pc tecnique in conjunction with the pc tightening it might help. anyone try this?
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